I used to value the insights of Tard and Lard specifically because they were hedonistic and degenerate, yet seemed to have compunctions against true predation, especially of minors and the vulnerable. Effectively, as lesser evils they had just enough familiarity with the mindset of their subjects, while still having enough of a moral compass to avoid going full predator. I found them to be a valuable lesser evil because they had such good insights against worse people, so I really didn't care about the hedonism and the lesser evils they embraced, as their less than ideal proclivities fell within acceptable parameters by my estimation. The MM sweeping and the Purity Sin affiliations destroyed this notion of contained degeneracy. I thought there would be a heel-face turn moment or a moment of sincere reflection in one or both of them, but when the depravity of the Discord community and their interactions with it hit the light, even the most generous analysis (and to be clear they don't deserve the most generous analysis) is one of intolerable degeneracy. The one standard that can never be compromised on is involving minors in degeneracy. MM' and PS are completely and utterly over the line and anyone who is willing to turn a blind eye to them for another hand of blackjack is just as compromised, even if they don't participate and "merely" enable.
