Was Bush really bad at all?

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Just curious. During the 2000s I didn't really pay attention to politics, but I do recall a lot of people making Bush the butt of jokes.

But then I think, these are the same people that try to make Trump out to be evil, so now I'm like, "was Bush really bad or is this just an example of MSM painting a republican a certain way?"

What were/are your thoughts and recollections?
 
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With regard to criticism, much of it was fair, much of it was unfair media hysteria. In his first term, he united the country in a way not seen since WW2. Consider that he won a second term convincingly. Early economic returns were strong.

Having said that, he bungled a lot of that goodwill through poor stewardship and cabinet choices. Michael Brown and Donald Rumsfeld embarrassed him horrifically, and he was extremely gaffe prone. Criticism about Cheney being the "shadow president" constantly loomed. There is little doubt nepotism had a lot to do with his political rise. Katrina and the Middle East were objectively handled very poorly.

He is basically Neocon politics incarnate. He was a warhawk who did as much or more to further globalist interests than Clinton. He was also holding the reins during the Great Recession, though that can be blamed on multiple administrations turning a blind eye.

The life of the average American got worse under him, we became involved in endless wars, the illegal immigration situation got far worse, education became far worse. He was extremely unpopular at the end of his second term. Much of what his administration took point on got objectively worse.

He was a uniparty globalist without much to point to in terms of leaving the country in a better place than he found it.

EDIT: I will add that, from 1974-now, I think that Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush probably had the biggest hearts of the lot. They were also the bottom three absolute worst Presidents in that timespan along with Biden, but that's neither here nor there.
 
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Bush is overhated in my opinion. He was a bad President, but he probably was better than Gore or Kerry would have been. The idea that the Iraq War was Bush and Cheney's baby is laughable. Even if Gore won in 2000, 9/11 would have still happened, and we probably would have still invaded Iraq or some other Middle East shithole. Democrats voted to invade Iraq in 2003, and several Democrats wanted to invade Iraq well before 9/11, like Joe Biden. Also remember: Al Gore was the author of An Inconvenient Truth, which means that we would have gotten more intrusive climate policy and government controls.

I think Bush really did have good intentions in a lot of the things he did. The leadership he showed during 9/11 was commendable, and it explains how he won in 2004, despite barely winning in 2000. I think that Bush probably wanted to help/liberate the people of Iraq, at least to some capacity. I think he genuinely believed that Saddam Hussein had a WMDs, though I doubt that was the actual reason he chose to invade. I reject any notion that Bush either directly caused 9/11 or turned a blind eye to it so he could create the PATRIOT Act. I don't think he himself has benefited much from it. I feel like the best comparison to Bush is Lenny from Of Mice and Men: Bush was a good-hearted retard who kept accidentally hurting/killing people. With all of that said, however, his presidency was pretty bad, especially his second term.
 
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No. While "Glycerine" is overplayed, and the band is not entirely unjustly called a Pearl Jam ripoff, they're one of the more talented lineups of the grunge era, so if you like grunge at all, it's hard not to like Bush, especially now that we're no longer hotheaded teenagers who get into fights over which band is better. Sixteen Stone is, on the whole, a very well put-together album, opening with the ripping Everything Zen and managing to have enough variation across the entire record to avoid the monotony so characteristic of the era. While their heyday run was fairly short, all four of their albums from 1994-2001 were quite good and really can be considered exemplars of the genre.
 
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Yes, but Obama was worse considering how he did the same shit in Iraq in Syria plus strengthening the NSA, fortifying wheat the patriot's act started, removed propaganda restrictions on media and political parties and after his terms started pushing a globalist, racial, neo-liberal agenda with his Obama foundation. It's purpose being "training new leaders" forming a shadow coalition of left wing globalists maniacs running the country. What's even worse is there's a large part of of the country that treat him as a do-no-wrong Jesus figure, largely among the majority of the gen X population.

In short, Bush was a nigger but Obama was a nigger faggot. fuck you Obama, hope you get Luigi'd.
 
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He was terrible. The invasion of Afghanistan was a response that would have happened regardless of who was president. The invasion of Iraq was a war of choice. No other president steps on the nations dick like that. It was unjustifiable and unforgivable, and I still believe he should be hung for it.
 
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Not my cup of tea, his "compassionate conservatism" reeked of "communism with a humane face". Anyhow, a German friend send me this. He dislikes Bush a lot and for a good reason:


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When I ask him about Angela Merkel's immigration policy, he tells me that he respected her decisions. "My first reaction was: 'There's a woman with a big heart.' And I'm sure she was motivated by human compassion. And, you know, it was clearly a tough political decision for her — but she took a lead."

Bush himself was unhappy with the Trump administration's harsh immigration policies. He recently released a coffee-table book showcasing portraits of immigrants — his own way of engaging in political discourse. "


Yes, "big heart", she does not have to pay for anything, it't the Germans who are getting displaced,bullied,slaughterd.
So, yeah, thank you Dubya for shilling for migrants. We are being flooded by them, and would be even more so without our state at least trying to regain control over our Southern border. Not to forget-the war on terror, which brough ISIS into existance (after the invasion of Iraq)
 
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Schwarzwald said:
he was extremely gaffe prone
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Some people theorised that the gaffes were an act to make him seem more relatable and harmless.

TexasRanger said:
Not to forget-the war on terror, which brough ISIS into existance (after the invasion of Iraq)
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The Bush gov put great effort into planning how to win the war but neglected to plan for how to win the peace, with the results we saw.
 
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He invented a war because he wanted revenge for his daddy and threw thousands of men to go get their foot blown off.
Afghanistan was justifiable, Iraq was a pointless atrocity.
And don't even get me started on how retarded No Child Left Behind was
 
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