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[Pomniman]

Reading The Seven Against Thebes for reasons that have nothing to do with this thread, and it's like 467 BC never ended.

ETEOCLES addressing the CHORUS

Hark to my question, things detestable!
Is this aright and for the city's weal,
And helpful to our army thus beset,
That ye before the statues of our gods
Should fling yourselves, and scream and shriek your fears?
Immodest, uncontrolled! Be this my lot-
Never in troublous nor in peaceful days
To dwell with aught that wears a female form!
Where womankind has power, no man can house,
Where womankind feeds panic, ruin rules
Alike in house and city! Look you now-
Your flying feet, and rumour of your fears,
Have spread a soulless panic on our walls,
And they without do go from strength to strength,
And we within make breach upon ourselves!
Such fate it brings, to house with womankind.
Therefore if any shall resist my rule
Or man, or woman, or some sexless thing-
The vote of sentence shall decide their doom,
And stones of execution, past escape,
Shall finish all. Let not a woman's voice
Be loud in council! for the things without,
A man must care; let women keep within-
Even then is mischief all too probable!
Hear ye? or speak I to unheeding ears?

There's even a later part of the (female) chorus where they focus their panic on the idea that they'll be raped if Thebes is sacked by the Seven and their armies.

 

[The Ugly One]

I've actually said this in the other thread a very long time ago. The problem is, you're combating a natural instinct and it's hard to filter obvious red flags when you're battling against your own head. That's why women waste so much time on men that don't like them or guys who want to use them. They're attracted to them, and it doesn't matter what their heads say, they're fighting against their instincts and it's always a losing battle.

It's the mirror image of the problem men have with finding women who are walking STD biolabs attractive.

Women did not always act like this. I'm old enough to remember. Society certainly understood that women who were not properly socialized could act like this. Society knew they could be like this.

But is it being spoiled and having toxicity created? Seems like that could be a part of it, sure. Or is it teaching them healthy expectations of others and what others expect of them in the first place?

A huge "red pill" for me was learning how men in the 18th, not the 19th, century viewed women. The 19th century is extremely prone to Women Are Wonderful thinking. Charles Dickens, for example, writes women as entirely asexual beings, whether they're angels, like Lucie Manette, or lunatics, like Miss Havisham. Most male Victorian writers just can't write a woman to save their lives, which is probably why I like Emily Bronte so much. Catherine is viscerally real and extremely horny for the sexy, penniless douchebag. My completely unfounded theory is that many 19th century writers just saw being sexually attracted to men as disgusting, without having the slightest bit of introspection to say, "Wait a minute. I find being attracted to men disgusting because I'm a man and not a homosexual. It's not actually gross for women to be attracted to men."

Anyway, 18th century writers seem to be much more keenly aware of what women are actually like, their strengths, their foibles, what sort of men actually strike their fancy, what sort of men they'll ruin their own lives over, how they behave in groups, what they actually want, how they backstab each other, and so on. By the time the 19th century is wrapping up, your average female character wears a halo. Fitzgerald starts to humanize them again in American literature.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Reading The Seven Against Thebes for reasons that have nothing to do with this thread, and it's like 467 BC never ended.



There's even a later part of the (female) chorus where they focus their panic on the idea that they'll be raped if Thebes is sacked by the Seven and their armies.

It's always been there. It's no coincidence when you find yourself in a feminist-dominated place that every discussion sounds like hens clucking "rrrrrape rape raaaaaape rape rape bbbb-abuse rape abuse rape rrrrrraaaaaape rape abuse bawk bawk abuse raaaaape!" Feminism is the worst, most paranoid projecting parts of female nature treated as if they were the best, most sensible, and should instead be core to their personalities. Feminism is one of  the most insidious things to infect western society since the first madwoman dreamed it up

 

[The Ugly One]

Feminism is the worst, most paranoid projecting parts of female nature treated as if they were the best, most sensible, and should instead be core to their personalities.

Core to everyone's personalities. Every way that men are different than women is labeled "toxic masculinity," and if you defend any of it, even down to little boys being more rough-and-tumble at playtime than little girls, you are accused of defending "rape culture."

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Core to everyone's personalities. Every way that men are different than women is labeled "toxic masculinity," and if you defend any of it, even down to little boys being more rough-and-tumble at playtime than little girls, you are accused of defending "rape culture."

I think that depends on the feminazi. The rank-and-file are more likely to be true believers, genuinely trying to impart the Superior Sex's better way of living to those troublesome orcs. The high priestesses of the movement just hate men, always have. If we acted exactly as they prescribed, they'd move on to another thing to bitch about.

It's why I can only stand so much of their ranting about troons. I mean, I agree, but the reason you fixate on troons, madam, is because it provides another outlet for your deranged manhating. If pooners were all that remained tomorrow, you'd resume ranting that some maaaaaaaan made them poon out, you just know it!

 

[Bungdit Din]

Okay, I have to ask, I'm sure there's a reason - but why did you say this? I don't think there's any circumstance where I'd ever say that to a chick where I was dating. I mean, I've said 'when I dump you' but never 'when you dump me'. Did you do something? Did she do something? Were you just young n dumb?

Old enough to know better, alas - this was the most recent chick, and she really did a number on my head (via my dick, needless to say). Absolutely cuntstruck, I was, but knew it wasn't going to last, going in (much as I might've wanted it to). Waiting for the rug-pull from day one - she was way out of my league, so it was only a matter of time. Wasn't necessarily a blunder to say it, though, we were both always pretty honest and forthcoming with each other. Whore got me right in the feels. Yes, I still miss her...

Also, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the most emotion women are most attracted to is anger. Anger equals aggression which equals masculinity for some reason.

More than once I've been complimented, by wahmens, with the words, "You looked like a psycho doing that." Context: de-limbing tress, chopping wood, etc. Want bitches? Forget the fancy car, buy an axe.

 

[The Ugly One]

The only solution in modern society is distinguishing between those private and public type. Groups - we all need single sex spaces to be single sex if they’re smaller or private type groups, but we also need to meet in the public square and behave better there too. I don’t think we can have the better behaviour in the public square if we don’t have the private spaces too.

I think the issue is that there are places in the "public" square, think especially workplaces, that need to function according to masculine hierarchies, but which at least arguably shouldn't formally exclude women. For such places to allow women in at all, the men who run them must maintain the right to filter out women who can't hang, nor be required to change their behavior in order to make women feel comfortable.

For example, in machine shops around America, the swimsuit calendars have had to come down and policies instituted to have men written up and eventually fired for engaging in the kinds of jokes and banter you'd expect from the sort of man who cuts apart pieces of steel for a living. Since women are allowed to work there, the environment must be made "welcoming" to women under US law. But this then makes the environment rather unpleasant for the 99% of workers whom you actually need to be there.

More than a few women have thrived professionally in a masculine space (Grace Hopper being a famous example, the handful of women at NASA in the 1960s, the women operating British radar intelligence in the 1940s, and so on). Do we just need to say "No women allowed?"

More than once I've been complimented, by wahmens, with the words, "You looked like a psycho doing that." Context: de-limbing tress, chopping wood, etc]. Want bitches? Forget the fancy car, buy an axe.

Waiting until my wife gets home so I can start chainsawing branches.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

18th, not the 19th

Well, the 1700s had the libertines while the 1800s had the infamously repressed Victorians.

It's why I can only stand so much of their ranting about troons.

They were the original gendered language police and cross sex space invaders, so it's kinda funny when it happens.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Also, I  love "rape culture". Leave it to the 21st century amygdala-swollen baizuo to read a study about the morbidly fascinating, fucked up dynamics between low-IQ horny thugs in the uniquely lab rat-like environment of a prison and think, "Why yes, yes! My quiet suburban neighborhood is just like a supermax prison! My corner store? Prison. My local gym? Four walls and a door! Prison! Rape culture is everywhere!"

Foucault and friends rotted these people's brains.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Ah yes, raaaaaaaaape culture. Now that you mentioned it, when was the last slut walk? I recall a simpler time when scrolling on FB every 10th post or so was about rapes and slut walks. Wonder where those went?

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Old enough to know better, alas - this was the most recent chick, and she really did a number on my head (via my dick, needless to say). Absolutely cuntstruck, I was, but knew it wasn't going to last, going in (much as I might've wanted it to). Waiting for the rug-pull from day one - she was way out of my league, so it was only a matter of time. Wasn't necessarily a blunder to say it, though, we were both always pretty honest and forthcoming with each other. Whore got me right in the feels. Yes, I still miss her...

Maybe it's just my own arrogance showing, but if a girl is having sex with me, the notion of "out of your league" goes out the window. I don't care if she's a 2 or a 10, if we're banging, it doesn't matter. I understand your trepidation for thinking she might be more of a hassle and it's doomed to fail, but I don't think I'd ever say it. I think I'd just break it off. If I were a girl and were to hear that, my first thought is "You think I'm better than you." It's probably just my own ego talking, but I'd never willingly say or even hint that someone is better than me.

 

[Ser Prize]

Ah yes, raaaaaaaaape culture. Now that you mentioned it, when was the last slut walk? I recall a simpler time when scrolling on FB every 10th post or so was about rapes and slut walks. Wonder where those went?

Importing the third world en masse sure took care of that.

 

[Unyielding Stupidity]

Also, I  love "rape culture". Leave it to the 21st century amygdala-swollen baizuo to read a study about the morbidly fascinating, fucked up dynamics between low-IQ horny thugs in the uniquely lab rat-like environment of a prison and think, "Why yes, yes! My quiet suburban neighborhood is just like a supermax prison! My corner store? Prison. My local gym? Four walls and a door! Prison! Rape culture is everywhere!"

Foucault and friends rotted these people's brains.

I'm convinced that these women who see rape everywhere are just aggressively projecting their own sexual fetishes onto the world as a whole. It'd make sense given how studies have shown that a sizable chunk of women have rape fetishes.
It's kind of like how retards with cuck fetishes think that every single woman is secretly cucking their partners, or how fujoshis immediately assume that any two men who interact in a positive way must secretly want to fuck one-another. They see their fetish everywhere because they subconsciously want to see it everywhere.

 

[The Ugly One]

I'm convinced that these women who see rape everywhere are just aggressively projecting their own sexual fetishes onto the world as a whole. It'd make sense given how studies have shown that a sizable chunk of women have rape fetishes.
It's kind of like how retards with cuck fetishes think that every single woman is secretly cucking their partners, or how fujoshis immediately assume that any two men who interact in a positive way must secretly want to fuck one-another. They see their fetish everywhere because they subconsciously want to see it everywhere.

I think it's a complex of things. One obvious motivation is the need to be a damsel in distress who gets rescued by a handsome, heroic man. Note that no woman has ever proposed fixing "rape culture" themselves. Rather, they shriek louder and louder about how much danger they are in with the expectation that some heroic, kind, yet strong gentleman will swoop in, make all the scary bad rapists stop raping them.

Note that, in general, feminists never identify a problem that they can fix. It's always something men are supposed to fix. No exceptions.

Another side of it, though, is the need of an individual woman to make everything about herself. When there's a news story about rape, her lizardbrain says, "How can I make this about ME and get attention for ME?" Since feminists additionally have no morals at all, they don't curb this impulse. So, while she may have never been a victim of rape, she can can be a victim of "rape culture." She can cry to all her friends about the time her date got a little too handsy when she'd decided she didn't like him, or the time this weird loser wouldn't stop hitting on her, or some other incident where she was uncomfortable, and tie it to "rape culture."

There's probably more to it, but those are the two big ones.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

I'm convinced that these women who see rape everywhere are just aggressively projecting their own sexual fetishes onto the world as a whole. It'd make sense given how studies have shown that a sizable chunk of women have rape fetishes.
It's kind of like how retards with cuck fetishes think that every single woman is secretly cucking their partners, or how fujoshis immediately assume that any two men who interact in a positive way must secretly want to fuck one-another. They see their fetish everywhere because they subconsciously want to see it everywhere.

Know how you can tell their favorite Reagan-era rape fantasy the Handmaid's Tale is feminist porn? Of the two rough classes of women in that novel, the gray-robed uggos and fatties and grannies shipped off to pick up radioactive material in a chain gang with their bare hands, and the red-robed hotties kept locked in their proverbial Rapunzel towers so they can get plowed against their will on the daily, which one do they always, always cosplay as?

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Know how you can tell their favorite Reagan-era rape fantasy the Handmaid's Tale is feminist porn? Of the two rough classes of women in that novel, the gray-robed uggos and fatties and grannies shipped off to pick up radioactive material in a chain gang with their bare hands, and the red-robed hotties kept locked in their proverbial Rapunzel towers so they can get plowed against their will on the daily, which one do they always, always cosplay as?

Most of them have only seen youtube shorts and tiktoks of the show in fairness.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Know how you can tell their favorite Reagan-era rape fantasy the Handmaid's Tale is feminist porn? Of the two rough classes of women in that novel, the gray-robed uggos and fatties and grannies shipped off to pick up radioactive material in a chain gang with their bare hands, and the red-robed hotties kept locked in their proverbial Rapunzel towers so they can get plowed against their will on the daily, which one do they always, always cosplay as?

For me, it was how elaborate the breeding ritual is. The overall concept was already ridiculous, but how much of a coomer do you have to be to come up with this shit?

 

[God of Nothing]

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Note that, in general, feminists never identify a problem that they can fix. It's always something men are supposed to fix. No exceptions.

it's funny because feminism itself is denying female agency through acknowledging the lack of women's agency in the first place, as if you really can be forced to be a submissive "slave" for most of recorded fucking history

 

[Bungdit Din]

Maybe it's just my own arrogance showing, but if a girl is having sex with me, the notion of "out of your league" goes out the window. I don't care if she's a 2 or a 10, if we're banging, it doesn't matter.

That is a good way to frame it - 'cause it's true. Thanks.

I understand your trepidation for thinking she might be more of a hassle and it's doomed to fail, but I don't think I'd ever say it. I think I'd just break it off. If I were a girl and were to hear that, my first thought is "You think I'm better than you." It's probably just my own ego talking, but I'd never willingly say or even hint that someone is better than me.

I didn't think she was going to be more hassle, it was something I discovered, as the relationshit progressed. She was quite high maintenance (and something of an instathot) and I'm a poorfag. There is an upside to that, however, because I know, for a fact, that any wahmens who's been with me has not been with me for my money - since I don't have any, lol - or the kind of lifestyle I can provide, so at least I'm not insecure about my physical attractiveness (though I can't see it myself, honestly, hence the 'out of my league' comment) or my ability to throw down a decent D, as cringe as it is to say something like that. For me, getting a convenient cocksleeve isn't the problem, keeping one is the difficult part. It's played out that way before, so I was just sharing my world-weary opinion with her, when we were having a conversation about the future, and where 'we' were going, one night.

 

[Dawdler]

That's because you are in the egoistical mindset, that if you do this and this, she'll stay. No matter what you will do, she will leave. For girls like these, you are, by yourself - worthless to them, you just fulfill a role in her life like housing, transportation or a dick to ride on and so on ...
Girls that want to commit will stay even when they are beaten to death daily.
You can't turn a whore into a housewife is your first mistake.