UAP / UFO / Military, Pentagon, Harvard, NASA, Academia / Event analysis & ongoing news - Discussion of the Phenomena with a focus on Military, Government, & Academic sources only

What are the UAP?

  • PsyOp

    Votes: 578 52.1%
  • Glitches

    Votes: 115 10.4%
  • Illusion

    Votes: 132 11.9%
  • Ayylamos

    Votes: 360 32.5%
  • Extradimensional Entity

    Votes: 281 25.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 240 21.6%
  • Atlantis

    Votes: 152 13.7%

  • Total voters
    1,109

Fake and Gay old house hearing just on repeat trying to look like it's actually live for clicks

LIVE: Mysterious New Jersey Drone Sightings Call for ‘State of Emergency’ | US House Hearing | N18G​

i'm gonna take notes
(sorry I double posted. I haven't had much sleep.)
 
Last edited:
I can't help but think that in retrospect, we might have fucked up royally when we sent that gold record into space on Voyager I in 1977, complete with a panel offering directions on how to find us in the universe.

View attachment 6754733
Nah. Those probes are barely out of the solar system; anyone who found them would quite naturally take a peek at the planets inside the solar system, and pick up our radio broadcasts, at which point the jig is up anyway.
 
More notes on my feeling on the situation: I am no longer really considering the "dirty bomb" hypothesis as a viable one. If this was true then they would not be operating only a night, and there'd be far more ancillary clues such as ground teams and increased police and CBRN teams moving around the Eastern Seaboard. None of this is happening, so at best it feels like grasping at straws. I figured I'd post this and my thoughts in case some other people here are either thinking along the same lines as me or otherwise subscribing to this hypothesis.
 
My guess (for the little it’s worth) is that a few foreign powers have had a very easy ride under the Biden and Obama administrations and have been gathering intelligence . Ballon’s and all. Now there’s a few weeks until their people on the inside are out of a job and they’re scrambling to get as complete an intel set as they can before the orange man decides to just shoot the fuck out of everything.
The time is weird too, 6-11pm?
6pm east coast is what? 7 am Beijing? Fits nicely with early starts across the world
I hope no retard in the government takes down a plane full of people because of this.
That is a good point and may also be a secondary reason for this. Full the skies with them, and trump declares he will shoot them down - if a civilian craft goes down under that policy it’ll be a disaster.
What’s the flight range of a drone that size? Surely unless they’re higher altitude fixed wing they have a limited range? They must be coming from either land based or just offshore sources.
 
My guess (for the little it’s worth) is that a few foreign powers have had a very easy ride under the Biden and Obama administrations and have been gathering intelligence . Ballon’s and all. Now there’s a few weeks until their people on the inside are out of a job and they’re scrambling to get as complete an intel set as they can before the orange man decides to just shoot the fuck out of everything.
The one consistent narrative is that these are not foreign-operated. And if they were, where are they coming from? An Iranian mothership? They can't find the origin point, as far as we know.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Lord Xenu
I think there probably was one or two especially egregious or weird event regarding drones (like for example some military drone operators taking the piss out of that coast guard ship while doing something else) and this made people start paying attention and suddenly they're noticing the drones everywhere. I don't know what drone laws are in the US like but in my country they're so strict that you basically can't fly drones anywhere besides some very specific areas and you still see people out and about with their hobby drones if you pay attention, even though they try to be sneaky about it.

If you think about it, even a hundred of tiktok videos a day about drones and things that might be drones (nobody can tell because a shitty, tiny, flat plastic lense on a smartphone can't take such pictures, it's just physics, megapixels aren't everything) for a country the size of the US is fuck-all and completely meaningless.

If you think your government can coordinate a secret project that involves drones showing up all over the country at the same times, I don't know where you've been the last ten years.

(if you are interested in taking pics of drones, you don't need an expensive camera, just get some old digital camera with actual optics and photographic lense off ebay, it'll take about 100x times better pictures of objects like this than the ones I saw here and they're very cheap, probably can get something that lets you see the actual shape of the object for like, 20 bucks)
 
It was just one of those retarded channels where it pretends to be live but it's not.

Was just a repeat of an old hearing.

I don't know why Youtube allows those worthless livestreams on their site to begin with. Who the fuck would watch a live stream that cycles the same thing over and over again but doesn't let you seek through the video at all. So deceptive and retarded and useless. If it is an old hearing just provide the fucking link to the video and stop being deceptive youtube.

Grrrr.

Youtube has been like that for years now. Those "livestream" channels drive me crazy sometimes.
 
I think there probably was one or two especially egregious or weird event regarding drones (like for example some military drone operators taking the piss out of that coast guard ship while doing something else) and this made people start paying attention and suddenly they're noticing the drones everywhere. I don't know what drone laws are in the US like but in my country they're so strict that you basically can't fly drones anywhere besides some very specific areas and you still see people out and about with their hobby drones if you pay attention, even though they try to be sneaky about it.

If you think about it, even a hundred of tiktok videos a day about drones and things that might be drones (nobody can tell because a shitty, tiny, flat plastic lense on a smartphone can't take such pictures, it's just physics, megapixels aren't everything) for a country the size of the US is fuck-all and completely meaningless.

If you think your government can coordinate a secret project that involves drones showing up all over the country at the same times, I don't know where you've been the last ten years.

(if you are interested in taking pics of drones, you don't need an expensive camera, just get some old digital camera with actual optics and photographic lense off ebay, it'll take about 100x times better pictures of objects like this than the ones I saw here and they're very cheap, probably can get something that lets you see the actual shape of the object for like, 20 bucks)
I disagree on the fundamental principle that this isn't just some random people seeing drones and getting spooked. They're flying over national critical infrastructure and local authorities + military bases have reported this, said that this is actually an ongoing issue, and they can't pinpoint the origin. This theorizing is based on an understanding that this reporting is solely originating from people recording bad videos on TikTok. I'm not saying that there isn't an element of hysteria here, but this is more than just "someone saw a drone do something weird and spooked everyone."

Also military drone operators aren't just going to "take the piss" out of another asset like that, not to the point of an escalation of this degree. If it was that simple, this would've all been quashed weeks ago. But it isn't, and it continues to manifest more.
 
The one consistent narrative is that these are not foreign-operated. And if they were, where are they coming from? An Iranian mothership? They can't find the origin point, as far as we know.
I guess any ship. Many foreign ships in and out of the states constantly, all with flags of convenience, like that one that ‘accidentally’ destroyed a bridge.
Honestly I have no idea where they’re from for what they’re doing, it just seems like a very weird thing for a domestic government to do. Is it a ‘scare people and then put a draconian law in’ tactic?
And people are convinced they are actually earth made domestic drones, is that right? I keep hearing ‘car sized’ - are there no close up pictures that show what they are? 6-11pm - is it dark in the areas they’re seen in when they’re active? It’s dark by 4 or so here just now, but I know most of America is way further south than us. Are they being seen in daylight?
 
I guess any ship. Many foreign ships in and out of the states constantly, all with flags of convenience, like that one that ‘accidentally’ destroyed a bridge.
Honestly I have no idea where they’re from for what they’re doing, it just seems like a very weird thing for a domestic government to do. Is it a ‘scare people and then put a draconian law in’ tactic?
They would've tracked that by now. The Coast Guard has been up and down the coast of Northern New Jersey looking for the origin point. If it was that easy they would've stopped it by now. And honestly I don't believe that this is a "psyop to scare us" because there is no consistent narrative. The White House seems holding firm to the "this isn't real, this is hysteria from airplanes" narrative. Seems kind of dumb to do a psyop just for the main organ of the Government to deny it. Where's the angle? It seems more convoluted and silly to hold to that belief than anything else.
And people are convinced they are actually earth made domestic drones, is that right? I keep hearing ‘car sized’ - are there no close up pictures that show what they are? 6-11pm - is it dark in the areas they’re seen in when they’re active? It’s dark by 4 or so here just now, but I know most of America is way further south than us. Are they being seen in daylight?
From what I've read, no. They seem to appear mostly at twilight until like midnight. I've been looking at night to see if I can see one, but I haven't yet. A friend of mine, who doesn't believe in any UFO stuff by the way, saw one on Friday hovering over his street before flying off. Didn't saw how big it was, just that it was low and silent and then left after a few minutes.
 
The White House seems holding firm to the "this isn't real, this is hysteria from airplanes" narrative.
These are the people that told us “Biden is as sharp as ever” and “The economy is great you’re just dumb.” I’m not sure why anyone bothers asking.

I could completely believe it’s our agencies looking for something that got built or smuggled over the wide open borders and they don’t want to say “yeah there’s about 30,000 hostile foreign agents in the U.S. right now but ya know, sanctuary cities lol.”
 
S2 Underground has some thoughts about the current "drone" sightings in the NJ area.


I think most of these sighting are people misidentifying commercial aircraft and typical consumer drones for more nefarious things. There's also currently a ton of blatant misinformation out on social media.
 
These are the people that told us “Biden is as sharp as ever” and “The economy is great you’re just dumb.” I’m not sure why anyone bothers asking.
Exactly. The White House has long lost control of any narrative, and on this doubly so since it's being openly contradicted every day this continues.
I could completely believe it’s our agencies looking for something that got built or smuggled over the wide open borders and they don’t want to say “yeah there’s about 30,000 hostile foreign agents in the U.S. right now but ya know, sanctuary cities lol.”
Like I said earlier I don't think this really tracks. If this is true why are they only appearing in the evening? Why no corresponding police and CBRN assets being deployed, even covertly, to the Northeast? It's hard to hide CBRN teams working their way through suburban America. There's only so much security that can be done here. I don't really think this theory works out, and it becomes more untenable the longer this goes on.

There is clearly SOMETHING going on, and I haven't been satisfied with any theory, whether it's "dirty bomb searching" or "mass hysteria from airplanes" or "le gubbermint psyop." Nothing actually fits.
 
Now this is an actual interesting drone story, and not some bullshit out of focus planes and stars at night, still no high quality photos or videos though, sad.

Drone Incursions Closed Wright Patterson Air Force Base’s Airspace Friday Night


“I can confirm small aerial systems were spotted over Wright Patterson between Friday night and Saturday morning,” base spokesman Bob Purtiman told The War Zone on Sunday in response to our questions about the sightings. “Today leaders have determined that they did not impact base residents, facilities, or assets. The Air Force is taking all appropriate measures to safeguard our installations and residents.”

The drones “ranged in sizes and configurations,” Purtiman said. “Our units are working with local authorities to ensure the safety of base personnel, facilities, and assets.”

They closed their airspace for some hours, and opened afterwards, maybe after those things were gone, how many did they spot, how exactly did they look, how did they spot them, did they see them directly with their eyes or was it with radars or something? they don't give details about that. Also worth nothing this part of the article:

Of more than 5,000 tips called into a national hotline set up to deal with these sightings, fewer than 100 generated leads “deemed worthy of further investigation,” an FBI spokesman told reporters, including from The War Zone, on Saturday

The overwhelming majority of these sightings, as we have previously reported, are crewed aircraft, the official reiterated on Saturday.

“Most of the reports of UAS have originated from the ground, with very, very few reports of UAS activities from pilots of manned aircraft,” said the FBI official, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Overlaying the visual sightings reported to the FBI with approach patterns for Newark-Liberty, JFK, and LaGuardia airports – the density of reported sightings matches the approach patterns of these very busy airports, flights coming in throughout the night. This modeling is indicative of manned aviation being quite often mistaken with unmanned aviation or UAS.”

2 things can be true at the same time:
1. There are mystery drones spying over US military bases at night.
2. People are mistaking planes, satellites and stars for mystery drones in mass.

These 2 things intersect themselves and get mixed by the public. Personally i do believe there's drones flying over US bases at night some times, but i also believe people are exaggerating in mass about all these ufo sightings.
 
Back