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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Plastic Bag]

I hope the district nurses are wrong, and he does rally and recover. But your family need to make the decisions that may result in the end of his life in days or weeks understanding that that is what they are doing. There is no magical home care nurse or full time care assistant coming. There is no one to look after him except his poor wife, and his family. The cavalry are not coming, and decisions about his care and living arrangements need to be made in the harsh light of that reality. That's not on you. You're a grandkid. You are also being let down here, because you shouldn't be inveigled into a conspiracy of "we can't do anything" that will metamorphose at the funeral into "how did this happen, fucking council". The people who can solve this problem are choosing not to do so.

I can't give all the information of the situation and so I don't think it's possible for some of your conclusions to apply here but I appreciate the interesting thoughts along with the well wishes.

 

[Otterly]

enjoy grilled turkey breasts

Bland.

and whole chickens

Beaks and all?
Perhaps you’ve grown up disliking food and specific textures, where good was used as emotional weaponry? And perhaps, as many mild autists, you have a restricted list of ok foods? (Not being nasty here, I get it…) as that sounds like a very plain diet. Turkey is tasteless no matter what you do to it. A good Yorkshire pud is a thing of beauty but you have to do it right. Metal pan, fat in it and back in the oven at 230c to heat to smoke point. Batter in, close oven door, a few mins at 230 then down to 200 until Done. Always use plain flour. Delia’s recipe is best, although I omit the black pepper. Ensure there’s a window open or your smoke alarm will spaz out

 

[Mound Dweller]

@Mound Dweller

You know they review the CCTV footage over anyone they find suspect when they close the store right? Is ending up with a criminal record (even if its for shoplifting) worth it?

The only thing I've ever stolen is one of those pens from Argos and felt bad about it afterwards too, people I know who don't mind though totally fair game.
That said you know petty theft is 100% decriminalized and has been for years? Assuming you're not running out the door with a bag full of vodka/being an actual nuisance menace the staff don't give a shit, sad for the social fabric but such are the consequences of insufficient beatings.

Beaks and all?

Just the edible carcass skip the giblets, you may knock turkey but it's cheap and better than chicken for putting on bread it definitely has flavour the trick is to not overcook and dehydrate it like everyone does.

 

[Bloom Worm Cross Field]

Question for the genetically learned amongst you, maybe @Otterly, on the subject of inbreeding -- As I understand it, the genetic case against inbreeding is like this:

When genetic mutations happen, those that occur in dominant genes are immediately expressed and result in a disabled/mutated offspring, so natural selection happens at the point of mutation and the gene is not passed on. However, if the mutation is recessive, it gets hidden away and becomes part of the population's "mutational load" - the set of recessive genes that only get expressed and cause problems when both parents pass on the faulty recessive gene. The problem then with inbreeding is that successive iterations of it causes a person to have the same gene in more and more pairs (homozygosity?) which means that eventually, all recessive mutations will end up becoming expressed.

Does this mean that if you took two *unrelated*, extremely Habsburg-tier inbred people and bred those, since they each only pass one of each pair of genes, and each is genetically unrelated to the other, would this result in a completely normal, non-inbred offspring in a single generation?

 

[teriyakiburns]

Just to reassure everyone I'm not the only lunatic in your geographic area; is fidgeting a hate crime?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8ewl757d2ko/https://archive.is/4UXOk

I'm trying to work out what angle they're pushing for this this. Is it introducing the idea of mentally unstable people inflicting a psychological toll on those around them, so we should stop catering so much to them? Or is it reinforcing the idea that we should enable the anxieties of others?

turkey but it's cheap and better than chicken for putting on bread it definitely has flavour the trick is to not overcook and dehydrate it like everyone does.

This is actually correct. Well done.

Stop stealing your mam's eggs.

 

[Otterly]

those that occur in dominant genes are immediately expressed and result in a disabled/mutated offspring, so natural selection happens at the point of mutation and the gene is not passed on.

Yes if it’s a deleterious mutation - you’re less likely to breed and pass it on. (Multiple caveats, a ‘bad’ mutation can be selected for in some situations, e.g sickle cell or founder effects simply because of a small population.)

Does this mean that if you took two *unrelated*, extremely Habsburg-tier inbred people and bred those, since they each only pass one of each pair of genes, and each is genetically unrelated to the other, would this result in a completely normal, non-inbred offspring in a single generation?

It’d depend on which recessives they carried. If it was twenty completely different ones yes, and if there was overlap then no. And of course all those masked recessives go to the next generation so they can pop up later, and not all ‘silent’ recessives are actually silent. You very often hear that CF carriers have a history of respiratory issues, and things like the haemophilia b mentioned earlier - at least one of the princesses nearly bled to death after a minor op.

Just to reassure everyone I'm not the only lunatic in your geographic area; is fidgeting a hate crime?

I used to work with someone who said she had misophonia or whatever it’s called. She was EXTREMELY loud and extroverted, and her own noise magically never bothered her, but she policed every noise anyone else made. It was basically a way of bullying other staff. She was insane.
Yeah turkey isn’t so bad. Roasting it at Christmas I’m done with though, it’s hard to get it juicy and the birds are massive. I think I’ll do beef or lamb this year

 

[Wonderland foster child]

To add to the crap cuisine sperging and bring us full circle to the reason this thread exists, I've developed an addiction to the vegan festive bakes at Greggs. I'll be going into withdrawal after Hogmanay. Thank you for your understanding.

 

[LaVieKL]

Absolute fucking traitor.
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[-Jack-]

To add to the crap cuisine sperging and bring us full circle to the reason this thread exists, I've developed an addiction to the vegan festive bakes at Greggs. I'll be going into withdrawal after Hogmanay. Thank you for your understanding.

I'm over Greggs at the moment, we have a Wenzel's which is similar to Greggs but they do really nice "fresh" sandwiches which are decent.

 

[John Badman]

Got kicked out of Greggs once

 

[teriyakiburns]

Got kicked out of Greggs once

Why'd you get kicked out of greggs?

 

[John Badman]

Why'd you get kicked out of greggs?

They said I was being racist.

 

[teriyakiburns]

They said I was being racist.

Why'd they say that?

 

[John Badman]

Why'd they say that?

I was being racist.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I was being racist.

In greggs?

 

[John Badman]

In greggs?

Yeah. Can’t eat there no more cuz it’s racist.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Absolute fucking traitor.
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Context?

 

[AnOminous]

I always found Huel so fucking weird. It seems made for people that dislike being happy.

Holy shit it's like Bri'ish Soylent.

Toad In The Hole is great as well. Great some premium butcher sausages to roast with the batter and it's awesome.

Fun fact, in burgerclapistan what we call Toad in the Hole is what you call Eggy in a Basket.

 

[FedPostalService]

Context?

She was objecting to racists in Greggs.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Context?

She's creating more "combined regional authorities" and transferring more power from local councils to those combined authorities. The end goal is presumably "devolved" regional governments based on the ITL2 administrative regions of the UK, as illustrated in this convenient map:



These regions were originally drawn out for Blair's "devolution" plans, and were designed to slot into an EU-wide re-organisation of governance into regional authorities that were divorced from previous national and local systems of government. They would have had a partially elected unicameral governing body, headed by a governing council, and would take on all of the responsibilities currently handled by local government, as well as - at the time - having a direct descent of authority from the EU's central government, bypassing Westminster. Blair (who was then mapping out his campaign to be appointed as EU president) sold it as "power to the people", with the claim that it was bringing control over government closer to the electorate. The measures were soundly rejected by everyone at the time, much to his chagrin.

They've never gone away, though. The regions still have the unelected advisory councils lurking over them, which shape regional policy to a great extent, and the statistical regions are in general use by the government for most policy-making anyway. The combined authorities established in the last 15 years mostly fit inside the borders of these larger regions.