Megathread Jesse Singal Derangement Syndrome - jsingal69 vs TroonWorld

...attempt at some kind of shtick to highlight how unfair his attackers are.
He may have adopted the philosophy that everything happens for a reason, that there are no heros and villains, only cogs in the machine. I wonder if his attempts to engage with these people are merely his desire to find a rational explanation of what makes them so insane.
 
"Pedophile" is today what "Communist" was in the 1950s. It's just what you call someone if you really, really hate them. There's no thought behind it and there certainly doesn't have to be any facts or reasoning behind it.
Speaking of which...
https://bsky.app/search?q=singal+pedophile
Small sample of Bluesky loons calling him a "dangerous pedophile":
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he's like a pedophile force multiplier [...] like the lich king of pedophiles
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Do we think they'll try some impartiality and include the info on the deranged threats or nah?

Rhetorical question of course, we all know the answer.
Just the way they wrote that email says it all lol. Obviously views Jesse with complete contempt and won't even really try to be neutral.

Looking forward to seeing the article, though.
 
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I can't tell if deep down Jesse really is a pollyanna idiot who always gives the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise, or if it's an attempt at some kind of shtick to highlight how unfair his attackers are.
To some extent it has to be a deliberate rope-a-dope strategy. You can't tell me he posted a screenshot of KF and announced "Hey, a kiwi farmer showed me how to fix my account!" without an awareness of what kinda chum he was throwing in the waters.

Exactly how far that awareness extends is one of those philosophical questions.
 
Just the way they wrote that email says it all lol. Obviously views Jesse with complete contempt and won't even really try to be neutral.

Its the classic: We have written a hitpiece on you, and we are contacting you so that we can say that we tried to get in contact with you.
 
Jesse having extremely centrist-liberal values when it comes to trans rights actually makes the insane backlash from the Trans Volunteer Twitter Liberation Army that much funnier to watch.
Yeah it's almost like it's easier to counter criticism that comes from a frothing retarded nazi that screeches about wanting all trannies to die.
 
Please make his eyebrows a lot bigger 😃
Yes. Please.
rational explanation of what makes them so insane.
This is the psychological endpoint of endless enabling. When you constantly give someone who's entitled what they want and give in to themand never compromise or stand up for yourself, no matter how insane they get, they don't slow down, they don't stop. They keep demanding more and more and more. When someone is enabled, they never get better, they always get worse. This has happened with the trans community on a cultural scale for the past decade. Slowly they've been more and more and more enabled, and it's made them feel bolder and bolder to take more extreme measures to demand more extreme things from people, they think will never say no.
This bullshit didn't start with trans kids. It started with people pitying weirdos and freaks who said they were harmless and just wanted to use a different bathroom for the sake of their mental illness.

While enabling can go on forever on an individual or family scale it's a lot harder for it to go on forever on a cultural scale. Society has reached a point where they're done, and they cannot take anymore, and they're finally putting their foot down. When someone who has been enabled for so long, finally, firmly gets told no and their previous tactics that allowed the enabling to continue no longer work in the person who said "no" the entitled individuals lose their shit.

And that's what's happening, the trans community is starting to realize that people aren't backing down when they say, "no" this time and it's driving them insane.
 
Small sample of Bluesky loons calling him a "dangerous pedophile":
We do this with Liz Fong-Jones, but a) he was a creep who had actually tried to deplatform us and b) it was something he had actually said.

They're literally everything they accused the Farms of being!

This is the psychological endpoint of endless enabling. When you constantly give someone who's entitled what they want and give in to themand never compromise or stand up for yourself, no matter how insane they get, they don't slow down, they don't stop.
But it's not just that is it? One reason I utterly loath Caraballo is he shamelessly pushes this radicalizing narrative that trans people are under constant and systematic attack. He's launching this hate campaign against somebody purely for the crime of curiosity. So it's push and pull - being enabled by each other and institutions and also being slowly genocided by literally everybody ever. Conformity and group identity is demanded and critical thinking is the enemy, and Singal doesn't seem to realize or be willing to point out they're in a very sick information environment.
 
Greg "Mae" Dean is upset at someone posting a random address somewhere.
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And he's still trying to play coy about what he did.
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The argument seems to be that posting a link to zillow isn't doxing, in the same way posting a link to a google drive isn't hosting copyrighted material: the dox/infringement is happening off site. Either the offsite activity doesn't violate ToS, and the link should be allowed, or the offsite activity does violate ToS, and Jesse should be banned for his offsite activity.

What's interesting about this take is that the logic breaks basically everything they're screaming about.

First of all, it's just wrong. The Zillow link breaks ToS because it's "doxing," and Zillow isn't doxing anyone because there's no name associated with the address on Zillow. In order for it to be a dox, you have to tie a name to the address. When a tranny who is angry about Jesse posts a link to Zillow to skirt doxing rules, there's an implication that the address belongs to Jesse, linking his name to the address. The link between name and address happens on BlueSky, not Zillow, and so the doxing is committed by the user on BlueSky, not by Zillow.

It's the same problem with Jesse revealing trans kid's medical info: the medical info doesn't matter if there's no name attached to it. The replies are saying that it should be allowed to post the Zillow link because there's technically not a name attached, but if that's the case then Jesse is definitely in the clear as well.

Now, they could have linked to whatever public records that were initially used to find his address, and then the doxing would actually be happening off site. Of course, that would require admitting that the doxing is actually being done by the public records they used to get the address in the first place, and that "doxing" is just reiterating already public information, which in turn is admitting that the farms aren't actually doing anything more than discussing public information.
 
"Shoot him" is the easy answer, but it's probably unconstitutional. The state currently doesn't punish people for pre-crimes. You don't have to have any sympathy for Mr. Virtuous Pedophile, or any particular belief about where his pedophilia comes from, to recognize that it's potentially a tricky issue.
As someone who actually meets patients like this (rarely, but it does happen) I think you explained the issue much more eloquently than I ever could. It’s a difficult situation, both because you’re instinctively morally troubled by this person’s sexuality and because you’re wanting to prevent him (it’s always a man) from offending. The whole “just hang them by the neck until they’re dead” thing might sound good on the internet, but it’s not very useful when you sit in your office with someone who a) has no criminal record b) clearly is in enormous distress and c) you sort of have an obligation to try to help.

I appreciated Jesse and Katie actually trying to approach the issue in a pragmatic way, and it pisses me off that this is being used against him now by people who I suspect privately actually are fine with at least ehebophilia.
another thing that often gets overlooked, one of the reasons I'm so vehemently arguing against it is - where does it stop? there's a reason we as a society only punish crimes or their attempts, not thinking about crimes. if you make the exception "for the sake of children", where do you wanna draw the line? make a rape joke gets treated as actual rape? death threats give you 25 to life? and it won't stop there.... follow the wrong political candidate? well that candidate is a threat to democracy, so are you, best come after you for treason and possible terrorism "for the sake of society".
if you allow TPBP to treat everyone as being part of the j6 boomer tour, it WILL be used against you or someone you care about. the slippery slope is real. we all know this.

"Pedophile" is today what "Communist" was in the 1950s. It's just what you call someone if you really, really hate them. There's no thought behind it and there certainly doesn't have to be any facts or reasoning behind it.

"I don't like this person, therefore they must diddle kids." It's never made a lick of sense, yet you see it over and over, all over the place. This website is certainly no exception.
often it's simple projection, by now it's documented enough the biggest "antis" turn out to be the worst sexpests. that's why I immediately get suspicious of anyone resorting to that label these days, especially if it's unwarranted.

the other, more insidious reason, is acceptance. being labeled fascist or racist lost all bite due to inflationary use. there was a time where it was considered the worst thing (for some literal boomers it still is, like that leaf teacher offing himself after getting targeted by a highly-paid DEI grifter), but most people won't care. pedo otoh still does, until we're at a point of "oh he's a child fucker? so what?"; which is another reason anyone mindlessly throwing that word around should neck himself for playing into their hands - and that absolute includes kiwis.
 
"Pedophile" is today what "Communist" was in the 1950s. It's just what you call someone if you really, really hate them. There's no thought behind it and there certainly doesn't have to be any facts or reasoning behind it.

"I don't like this person, therefore they must diddle kids." It's never made a lick of sense, yet you see it over and over, all over the place. This website is certainly no exception.
And the problem with misusing a word so frequently is that it begins to lose its meaning, which gives actual pedophiles plausible deniability. Same principle applies to words like "Nazi," "racist," "groomer," and your example of "communist." The meanings of words matter; what you gain in emotional impact from hyperbolic use of a word, you lose in semantic clarity.
 
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