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The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice
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prollyanotherlurker
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yeah. I just ended up removing lxqt today. I really really hated pcmanfm-qt. didn't like all the mixed up theming stuff. Things just felt, not ready. and janky.
crazy how bad it was really. I'm so used to running hyprland, which I get the same performance, and lack of business with this, as I do with the x11 window managers I run. lxqt. nah that was rough. I wouldn't be surprised with kde's stuff was the same. I've tried kde in the past a couple times, removing it both times because of similar issues of just feeling buggy. Crazy how hyprland, which I would consider relatively small. It does have more than just vaxry working on it, but I'm pretty sure kde is a lot bigger. Yet on Wayland, this window manager puts everything else to shame it seems. Sad state of affairs for desktop environments.
Since I'm trying random DE's i figured I will install cosmic next to give it a short try. It being alpha still. I'm not expecting much, so I won't be too harsh on it. But I might as well give it a go.
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Really? LXQt is actually my favorite DE, and PCManFM is a very reasonable Windows Explorer-alike if you ask me.
But yes, theming/coloring is a huge pain. Not sure how much of that is just inherent to Linux and its multiple competing graphics toolkits, and how much is on LXQt specifically.
I've actually been playing around with running only the WM from KDE (KWin), and then LXQt as the actual DE.
I haven't tried the Wayland version so I can't speak to that.
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I tried it on a netbook and found it really annoying, it didn't want to let me make shortcuts to open applications, either on the toolbar or the desktop. Plus when searching using the little bottom-left button it would remember searches which was annoying and made me constantly have to backspace out the old thing I typed whenever I needed to open something new. Also couldn't figure out how to assign icons to any shortcuts whereas in cinnamon for instance thats entirely automated.
It is very lightweight though I'll give it that, thats the one thing it seems to have going for it netbook wise. My new one runs LMDE/cinnamon just fine though so cant be bothered.
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x3firehexx
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Pfft, honestly the file managers in linux all look kinda the same. I looked at some images and it looks more or less the same to my thunar setup, so tbh it doesn't really matter. I mean, honestly, it's a goddamn file manager, i don't feel necessery to argue over which file manager is the best since they all kinda do the same thing. The windows 10 file manager hovewer is actually decently designed. Infact indows 10 is the last good microsoft OS. Like, if you need windows 10 for some reason just pirate the LTSC version.
prollyanotherlurker
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It could have been because of me trying the Wayland session and that being the reason I installed it. Well that added some extra things that were bad for sure.
But the theming thing made it difficult to just get things set up, along with wierd behavior from the bar. And just theming, seeming worse for me every time with qt stuff. At least as someone who is coming from using standalone window managers. Probably isn't so bad with kde or something.
And I like pcmanfm. I didn't like pcmanfm-qt. For some reason, and maybe this is just how it is. It wouldn't let me open up a context menu on the bar and edit what is there, and edit a few more things that I would have needed to to use it how I wanted. Unlike normal pcmanfm. I have no idea why, and if that's normal.
Either way. Gonna try to remember to install cosmic today. And see how that goes.
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I actually moved to thunar. Because it's super easy to minimize what is shown and tie it to key binds. Also I like the way searching works more in Nemo, and thunar.
But yeah. I agree generally they're all super similar. I think if you just happen to find something you like about one and stick with it. You won't really be missing much by not trying others.
One caveat. Is on Gentoo. Using one that pulls in fewer dependencies is probably the better choice. So no dolphin, or Nautilus. At least if you aren't using gnome or kde. Unless you want to deal with all the extra packages.
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The best file manager is Dolphin.
The shitty file manager is actually one of the bigger reasons I can't tolerate Windows, along with nonsense like "the scroll is reversed and you can't fix it without third party tools" and "the window management buttons are on the wrong side and you can't fix it without third party tools that don't even work most of the time" and "it reboots on its own".
The shitty file manager is actually one of the bigger reasons I can't tolerate Windows, along with nonsense like "the scroll is reversed and you can't fix it without third party tools" and "the window management buttons are on the wrong side and you can't fix it without third party tools that don't even work most of the time" and "it reboots on its own".
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With all this X11 vs Wayland stuff, I have to wonder. How does Microsoft Window's display server/compositor work? Is it like X11 in that it also fails to implement GUI isolation to prevent keylogging? Or is it like Wayland, which supposedly makes this more difficult? Similarly, how does MacOS do it? How does Google Android do it? How does ChromeOS do it?
With wayland being in development for 16 years and still not being ready, the project seems like a failure. Microsoft can figure out how to display applications. Apple can figure out how to display applications. Google can figure out how to display applications. Why is GNU/Linux unable to figure out how to display applications?
With wayland being in development for 16 years and still not being ready, the project seems like a failure. Microsoft can figure out how to display applications. Apple can figure out how to display applications. Google can figure out how to display applications. Why is GNU/Linux unable to figure out how to display applications?
x3firehexx
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Because the first 3 things you mentioned are mutlitrillion global companies with enough money to give entire developed countries a very, very good run for their money. No, seriously, the market valuations of those companies are in the trillions. So, on one side youv'e got trillion dollar companis putting their full resources on one clearly defined goal, with strict organisation and pretty efficent management.... On the other side hovewer.... you have a couple hundred autistic nerds who all seem to disagree and hate on eachother. So, you can see where i'm at. That, and the fact that the kernel is so open it kinda gets in the way of having a "One thing does all" solution that works for anyone.
X11 for me is far stabler and better than wayland, but because X11 existed before linux did, and was developed by research institutions in america with insane amounts of money, afterall, you remember the colossal dick measuring contest during the cold war, right?
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Have you read the open source software thread? It's all made by retards
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I had been bouncing between Thunar and some other random GUI file manager on one install. Then I started logging in to the PC in question both locally, and via XRDP.
No matter which session I was actively using, every FM except PCManFM (and a couple of terminal emulators) INSISTED on popping up, when I ran them, on whatever session I wasn't using at the time.
No doubt doing some newfangled modern DBUS nonsense to decide where it should show up, instead of just reading the fucking DISPLAY variable that's been there for decades for a reason.
PCManFM is now my goto everywhere.
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No GUI isolation between programs running in the same session, unless it's one of the Microsoft Store apps.
We did, it's called X.
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I was really pissed off when they changed the default from konq to dolphin, but I have to admit it's grown on me since. It helps that they made it not suck in the meantime. What I like about it most is that it stays out of the way and just shows me what I want, instead of being a constant reminder of how things could be better. Unlike Nautilus.
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secureblue has already replaced sudo with run0. it is supposedly more secure. https://github.com/secureblue/secureblue/releases/tag/v4.2.0
prollyanotherlurker
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I'm pretty sure the people that actually say this are trolling.
That or overly emotionally invested in xorg some reason.
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Classic Konqueror from the KDE 2/3 releases was amazing. The supposed 'complexity' was completely rational stuff like 'having the option to add a panel at the bottom of the screen of the directory you're in with a terminal UI directly reused from Konsole because the KDE developers were then aping the very cool concepts that Apple tried to develop with their competitor to OLE.
Dolphin didn't run any faster and the idea that having no useful menu options in the application somehow 'simplified' things was insane.
X Windows was a usable prototype, functionally equivalent to modern day Wayland, thirty years ago. A couple years later they'd gone from that Wayland-tier system to the highly evolved X Windows 6.0 system. X11 was achieved by 1987. Now we have fancy extensions so you can plug your phone into a USB-C screen and dynamically extend your X Windows clients onto that, if for some reason just 'using a computer' is too hard. Every problem with Wayland has been discussed countless times over decades, and- in X- resolved. The perpetrators of Wayland didn't just create a shittier new system for no reason, they deliberately ignored the hard earned wisdom of actually competent non-Desi real human beings who came before.
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