Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread

[Golden Apple]

I know it's such a woke/SJW/LGBTWTFBBQ term, but I feel asexual myself, if I have to put some annoying label to it. I just genuinely do not desire romantic/sexual intimacy.

Yeah I hate using the fag words for it. I didn't know there was even a word for it until after grad school, in the mid teens....!

Especially because those words get misused as trophies by identity collectors. That and the confusing hate that it gets from ovarit drove me away from the website and radical feminism in general. Because a man lying about being asexual magically makes it not real for anybody? We don't judge carpet lickers by the trannyfaggots that misuse their language. Why would you do the same for asexuals?

I just want to be left alone. Men bring nothing to the table and aren't worth the headache.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

What are his redeeming qualities that you consider this behavior acceptable?

If he makes millions of dollars and draws you baths and likes all your favorite TV shows I guess it's whatever on being messy, but I'm gonna guess none of that is the case.

Spoiler: OT cringe TMI

He makes me laugh. I know he can be trusted. We like the same very obscure music. After over 20 years playing important roles in each others lives, I feel completely comfortable around him. i know from experience he would go to the ends of the earth for me. We grew up together.

I don't consider his behaviour acceptable, I consider it extremely disrespectful. I tolerate it because he does have significant redeeming qualities, but they are hard to explain.

Still, I ended up washing up that pan. I've reminded him of the locations of antibacterial wipes stored around the house. He still hasn't done the one job I'd asked him to over a week ago. I refuse to do it on principal but it is infuriating.

We spent good money getting nice stuff for our home, it would all be totally trashed if one of us didn't take care of it.

 

[fake farts]

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Someone not sure who already called this account out for being a nigger just based on the name which was very astute since, as they only have 12 posts it is very easy to see that they are indeed a nigger. Also "relationships =fucking" makes me think moid but i could be wrong.

Trust and believe in the ho/hoe schizo theory. Only niggers and whites inundated in nigger culture spell the slur "ho" with an E.

 

[Hubelublub]

I've reminded him of the locations of antibacterial wipes stored around the house.

"I've purchased and placed antibacterial wipes around the house."
This is the true phrasing, because those wipes didn't just get there by themselves. The passive phrasing in your sentence is you not giving yourself enough recognition for all that you do, probably to stay sane in a household with an adult child.

I'm glad your Nigel makes you laugh and doesn't change the radio station when your favourite song comes on.
You realise a dog will also do these things too, yes?
A dog will also provide unconditional love and joy, and will defend you to his last dying breath.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

A dog will also provide unconditional love and joy, and will defend you to his last dying breath.

I mostly agree with your post, and I think this is the crux of why so may women tolerate adult children.

The partner is able to care for themselves in a way that a dog can't, and has selected you based on qualities that a dog doesn't care about as long as they get love and care. Theoretically, the male provides more than the dog, like care when you're ill and conversation, and doesn't require so much attention towards their basic needs.

I think that's why we have an entire thread on man-hate, comparisons to dogs should in no way be apt. I kinda feel if I just expected as much cleanliness from him as from a dog, I wouldn't be so frustrated.

 

[Hubelublub]

The partner is able to care for themselves

He can't do dishes over a 5 day period, what was his plan, just keep buying more dishes when his clean ones run out?

 

[wet nut]

I mostly lurk, but this thread has brought me incredible comfort over the past several months and I appreciate everyones contributions.

Spoiler: PL about 4chan Internet Brain Damage

I grew up in a fairly small town with very little to do. With two working class parents with little-to-no online savviness, I ended up spending my tweens and teens on 4chan. I liked video games, and it was Hip with the older boys I naively thought were cool (spoiler: They are all disgusting, massive faggots to this very day, quelle surprise). It felt like having access to ~forbidden knowledge about the male psyche~, where they said what they really think. Unfortunately I failed to realize I should not give a fuck what men think. It may sound dramatic but I grieve for myself and others who were exposed during such an impressionable time. I started to recognize the extent of the psychological damage and insidious internalized misogyny about a decade ago (and am still working on it). It's challenging to find people who can relate, or at least don't "not all men" me. I can't express how helpful this thread alone has been in my "deprogramming". Thanks, gang

 

[decrease tnt]

Spoiler: OT cringe TMI

He makes me laugh. I know he can be trusted. We like the same very obscure music. After over 20 years playing important roles in each others lives, I feel completely comfortable around him. i know from experience he would go to the ends of the earth for me. We grew up together.

I don't consider his behaviour acceptable, I consider it extremely disrespectful. I tolerate it because he does have significant redeeming qualities, but they are hard to explain.

Still, I ended up washing up that pan. I've reminded him of the locations of antibacterial wipes stored around the house. He still hasn't done the one job I'd asked him to over a week ago. I refuse to do it on principal but it is infuriating.

We spent good money getting nice stuff for our home, it would all be totally trashed if one of us didn't take care of it.

He will go to the ends of the earth for you but not wash a single dish even after you had asked?

 

[passionpoop]

He can't do dishes over a 5 day period, what was his plan, just keep buying more dishes when his clean ones run out?

You jest, but knowing men like I do, and even some women, they just wash one dish and reuse that one dish, leaving the crusty pile covered in flies and shit.

Spoiler: OT cringe TMI

He makes me laugh. I know he can be trusted. We like the same very obscure music. After over 20 years playing important roles in each others lives, I feel completely comfortable around him. i know from experience he would go to the ends of the earth for me. We grew up together.

I don't consider his behaviour acceptable, I consider it extremely disrespectful. I tolerate it because he does have significant redeeming qualities, but they are hard to explain.

Still, I ended up washing up that pan. I've reminded him of the locations of antibacterial wipes stored around the house. He still hasn't done the one job I'd asked him to over a week ago. I refuse to do it on principal but it is infuriating.

We spent good money getting nice stuff for our home, it would all be totally trashed if one of us didn't take care of it.

It's good of you to defend your moid. You seem to love him, and he seems to love you. Personally, my relationship recently just failed because of a dirty living space. I just kept asking and asking but was ignored. It was like we were speaking a different language. I cannot understand how a person could be so kind and thoughtful, but then live in squalor, and be happy to sit naked in it. He'd just sit naked, surrounded by all of his trash. Loved the guy but holy shit. And I mean it when I say he was kind. Just really, really filthy. 20 years is probably too long of a time to leave a partner over mess, and if you have no threat, he will not listen to you. In fact even with the threat, he might not listen to you (my case).

You have to accept it. Be the maid or get a maid. Sucks though. Next partner I get, I'm making sure they can be trained with a whip.

 

[fake farts]

Yeah I hate using the fag words for it. I didn't know there was even a word for it until after grad school, in the mid teens....!

Especially because those words get misused as trophies by identity collectors. That and the confusing hate that it gets from ovarit drove me away from the website and radical feminism in general. Because a man lying about being asexual magically makes it not real for anybody? We don't judge carpet lickers by the trannyfaggots that misuse their language. Why would you do the same for asexuals?

I just want to be left alone. Men bring nothing to the table and aren't worth the headache.

I feel you, the ones who want to be balls deep in the LGBT shitshow are nuts, or young autists desperate for a human connection and community. Too bad the LGBTQP "community" is pure shit and they all seem to hate each other. Lesbians often have more anger about bisexual women more than they have anger about trannies (men) forcing their gross cocks onto lesbians. Bisexual women can often be handmaidens, or male-centered pickmes. Bisexual men and gay men are just deranged disease-spreading woman-hating faggots, and trannies are, well, trannies. What more needs to be said?

As for rad fems, I know what you mean, I've encountered a few of those as well. They're like those deranged lesbian rad fems/blackpillers I've come across, who call straight rad fems "cocksleeves" and "rapemeat" to me. I just ignore their sheer stupidity, or laugh at it and shit on them. I get too much value out of real radical feminism and enjoy listening to and hanging out with good women to let some of these sad, pathetic fools poison the well.

 

[Solfa12]

The Wisconsin school shooter thread really attracted the incels lol I can’t decide what’s funnier- the whatboutism spergs, (calling mass shooters predominantly male is a gigantic understatement there were like 5 female ones in America at most) the armchair psychologists (she had daddy issues HUR DURR), incels inaccurately pinpointing this on RadFems, incoherent incel ramblings or the scrotes actually wanking off to this dead eyed teenager with the school shooter look they thought was a tranny at first.

 

[Mandy Stroyer]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I know it's such a woke/SJW/LGBTWTFBBQ term, but I feel asexual myself, if I have to put some annoying label to it. I just genuinely do not desire romantic/sexual intimacy. And that was true even when I was younger and tried a couple of relationships. It's such a loaded term, "asexual", because it calls to mind people screeching FAKE, and when you have people claiming "You can be asexual and enjoy sex, tee hee" or people who are asexual but have sex they don't want for some coercive partner (that's rape, by the way), I can understand why people would screech fake. But it also calls to mind all the people saying "It's because of SSRIs, or sexual trauma, or you just hate men" or whatever the fuck. And I don't care what "causes" it. I just know what I'm comfortable with, and not comfortable with. I'm not going to force myself into relationships or situations that I do not want. You only have one shot at life, and you get to rule your life however you want, regardless of what some protesting faggots say online or in real life.

Call it asexuality, spinsterhood, volcel, straight up man hate, I don't care. I just know I prefer to be alone.

Spoiler: Asexual sperging, PL

I identified with the label out of necessity which I plan on explaining in a future "losing people to transgenderism" post (it's a lot of people so very long post I've been considering). It was also that I didn't have another word for it. The realization that I had never wanted to be physically affectionate or even really date hit me in the middle of 7th grade. Bit early and I wasn't aware of any SJW/LGB stuff besides the basic gays and bisexuals. Other girls had been having their crushes and 2 week flings since 4th grade and it'd be another year before I even liked someone that I still didn't want to date or be close to. I just didn't get it. I did eventually start dating but not really by choice. I hadn't grown a backbone yet to say no consistently. It was expected at that age so I said yes if there even a semblance of connection and I didn't find them utterly repulsive.

I've felt pressured to be there and be affectionate in every relationship besides maybe two who respected that I was not a touchy-feely person and who I liked first. It was and still is being suggested that I'm a lesbian by peers and family no matter how vehemently I deny it. The idea of being involved with a woman in a romantic or sexual capacity is just as unappealing. I think the accusation comes from me admittedly dressing and acting "butch" but also that I was forced to be stereotypically feminine for a decade at the behest of my then homophobic mom who was worried I was coming off as a dyke. This earned me a lot of unwanted male attention that she assumed I reveled in because that's what she'd want, it's what any normal girl would want. It only made me violently misandristic. I never wanted to be pretty, I wanted to be comfortable.

I will admit I used the "until marriage" excuse until I was 21, but being open about it in following relationships only led to men being more manipulative. I dropped the asexual label when it was no longer useful to me then blamed it on trauma and mental illness, maybe a hormone issue, before realizing that you're right. The point is I'm not interested and nothing will change that. I don't need a reason for it and it only bothers me to the extent that men I date refuse to accept it so I'll just stop dating too. Not like they were providing anything for me besides being a nuisance.

Volcel, while being an internet zoomer label, is one I feel comfortable with because though I have never not been celibate, I am choosing to stay that way. I'm not asexual, which was taken over by sex-having people even back in the mid 2010s. Asexuality has been delegated an umbrella term for fuggos who can't get laid and people who assume everyone else does the nasty within 2 seconds of meeting. I am not LGB because that denotes attraction to the same sex. I'm straight. I think sometimes men can be cute or funny or kind but a majority are not and those who are, I still don't want to be romantically or sexually involved with. Having sex is not a want or need, marriage is not a want or need, having kids is not a want or need, and having some moid breathing down my neck is not a want or need. I see no reason to ever "fix" it because nothing about it is dysfunctional for me.

Spoiler: meme dump

 

[Golden Apple]

Too bad the LGBTQP "community" is pure shit and they all seem to hate each other. Lesbians often have more anger about bisexual women more than they have anger about trannies (men) forcing their gross cocks onto lesbians.

As for rad fems, I know what you mean, I've encountered a few of those as well. They're like those deranged lesbian rad fems/blackpillers I've come across, who call straight rad fems "cocksleeves" and "rapemeat" to me.

Spoiler: Spoilered because not man hate

It's not even that the community is shit, it's just I don't want to be part of the fag community and get lumped in the degenerates because of something I don't do or control. I don't want language or a fucking flag or having to explain my shit to anyone or be in the argument on whether asexuals belong or not. And it's tiresome for someone to say, "oh you don't like men, so you must be a lesbian" as if NONE isn't an option.

As for rad fem shit, I lost interest when the bannening happened on GC preddit and was on Spinster... it was meant to be a woman only place, but the dykes decided it was cool to let HSTS and their fag friends in there because "fiona orlander, friend to JKR has to say HER side of the story" when that faggot started grifting radfems for FFS money. Not to mention getting pushback when I wasn't sold on Debbie Hayton being an ally and using his lady pronouns.

I just want a feminist place for women's issues that the dykes don't decide is just another wing of fag rights and stink up like the lavender menace they really are. You don't have to be a dyke to be a good feminist and dykes are not pure perfect feminists. I'm pretty sure a lot of them are misogynistic in their own way, at least against heterosexual and asexual women.

Right now the only useful feminism is FDS, and only because it helps women navigate dating men instead of calling them cum dumpsters and idiots for being attracted to men (you know... biology).

Don't get me started on fag surrogacy hiding behind dyke sperm banks. *hisses*

 

[Group Project Carrier]

Hey yall. Been super busy but I'm back now, I guess?

It's such a loaded term, "asexual", because it calls to mind people screeching FAKE

Ngl, this was actually one of the top 3 things that pushed me out of "mainstream radfem spaces". The #1 reason, of course, was the fact that the dominant "radfem" voice right now is a woman who has a Nigel but just simply does not like trannies. The other two reasons were the weird stances on asexuality and bisexuality. I swear to God that someone said that the word "bisexual" shouldn't even exist because "what they really are is just both homosexual AND heterosexual". Truly a gold-star take.

What these women tend to say about asexuality is again, that the word shouldn't exist at all because "hurr durr who cares if you don't want to fuck". Everybody cares ... that's the point. They care so much that they won't stop inventing words for female volcels. Frigid, spinster, old maid, puritan, "puriteen", the list goes on. Even "nun" is getting used as a sort of slur now.

 

[Hubelublub]

he seems to love you

"Hey babe, haven't seen you in five days, I really missed you. The house felt emptier without you, and I missed your energy and your joy and your spirit, and just...you.

I know you've been working your butt off these past days, and coming straight home from a long travel was rough on you. While you were away, I was in charge of managing our home.

As a representation of the love and appreciation and respect I have for you, I haven't done shit to take care of our shared living space while you were gone. After your lengthy commute back here to our little shared nest, I've ensured you've come home to a space that is even dirtier than how you left it, and I have not lifted a finger to make your day a bit more pleasant. I have no interest in your happiness, I see your free time as expendable and far less valuable than mine, and I'm fine with you associating me with extra chores, dirt, grime and filth. I hope you are aware of my complete lack of investment in anything you value."

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

https://old.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/1hau6hc/aitah_for_being_disgusted_and_just_saying_ok_when/

Guy reee its not fair for you not sacrificing your career so i can play around in lating america. I hate that you pay my bills etc etc in a rant its over. Woman : OK . Guy has total melty leaves and then tries to get back together realising he burned his meal ticket. In the end went to latin america in bogota columbia to "find himself" .

What a fucking loser , he couldnt get any decent paying job with his PHD lmao.

 

[passionpoop]

"Hey babe, haven't seen you in five days, I really missed you. The house felt emptier without you, and I missed your energy and your joy and your spirit, and just...you.

I know you've been working your butt off these past days, and coming straight home from a long travel was rough on you. While you were away, I was in charge of managing our home.

As a representation of the love and appreciation and respect I have for you, I haven't done shit to take care of our shared living space while you were gone. After your lengthy commute back here to our little shared nest, I've ensured you've come home to a space that is even dirtier than how you left it, and I have not lifted a finger to make your day a bit more pleasant. I have no interest in your happiness, I see your free time as expendable and far less valuable than mine, and I'm fine with you associating me with extra chores, dirt, grime and filth. I hope you are aware of my complete lack of investment in anything you value."

Men can love you and not give a fuck about doing little things that mean the world to you. As a result I would argue she and other women need to choose what's more important to them. She can leave or she can get a maid, that's it. He is not going to change because he's a man, which is like being retarded, basically.

 

[Hubelublub]

Men can say they love you and not give a fuck about doing little things that mean the world to you

Edited your comment slightly to be what I think is more accurate.

I don't know if any of us can really say if a man like this genuinely loves his partner.
Moids will say whatever they need to say to keep their problems minimal, even if it means lying and obfuscating.

Not being at all invested in your partner, in her interests and preferences, and in boosting each other up, doesn't sound like love to me. I'd be hurt and frustrated in a relationship like this.

My gut feeling is that he loves himself, and he loves how she makes him feel. But actually loves her, I'm not so sure. I wouldn't want to put any money on it.

 

[Wuornos]

The Wisconsin school shooter thread really attracted the incels lol I can’t decide what’s funnier- the whatboutism spergs, (calling mass shooters predominantly male is a gigantic understatement there were like 5 female ones in America at most) the armchair psychologists (she had daddy issues HUR DURR), incels inaccurately pinpointing this on RadFems, incoherent incel ramblings or the scrotes actually wanking off to this dead eyed teenager with the school shooter look they thought was a tranny at first.

Literally came here to post this.

Moid hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. When the shooter is male, which they usually are, it's "not all men," but that soon changes to "all women are like this" on the rare occasion the shooter is female. The thread is filled with the usual misogynistic BS about women, but the second you post a statistical fact about male violence (backed up by crime statistics) the usual suspects start screeching and faux crying "misandry."

 

[keke]

I felt like saying "I present feminine" was just the most succinct way of saying that.

It is but I think people should say stereotypically feminine instead. It wasn’t a direct reference to you, more in general, because it’s so entrenched it’s a 180 degree uphill battle. Just to be clear

Also this shooter stuff has made me very MATI, moids stay absolutely intolerable ape-brained liars