Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

So they're sending Kellog? We've seen his previous plans for "peace" and it just looks like Russia gets everything with no major consequences, I suspect they'll be buttering and forcing European countries to accept this deal or nothing, I imagine a half-assed DMZ type boarder, that will take months if not years for it to actually come true, not looking opptismitic IMO.
 
The fact that Ukraine has killed so many generals just proves they aren't very valuable to begin with. It's all just nepotism. He will be replaced by some other guy named Ivan from fuck knows where.
You're right that there's a lot of nepotism, graft, and incompetence.
I read an interview with one of the volunteers earlier in the war where the guy was flabbergasted at rank inflation in the UKA; colonels were doing work that was beneath captains in a western force, officers were doing things that would be delegated to mid-tier NCOs.
Also remember the Russian command is still extremely Soviet, in that talented people are a threat and need to kept away from promotions lest they replace their superiors.

So while every dead Russian ranking officer brings the very low chance they might be replaced by someone competent, there is also a degree of... even if someone isn't very good at their job, they're usually better than someone recently placed into it just by nature of knowing where the bathroom is. The fact they ventilated this guy and his aide means a lot of lost knowledge and the chemical corps is likely to be even more fucked up than normal for a while.

Polish-made KTO Rosomak IFV using 30mm Mk44 Bushmaster II w/ programmable airburst:
watching those tracers make a sudden 90-degree vertical turn is wild.

So they're sending Kellog? We've seen his previous plans for "peace" and it just looks like Russia gets everything with no major consequences, I suspect they'll be buttering and forcing European countries to accept this deal or nothing, I imagine a half-assed DMZ type boarder, that will take months if not years for it to actually come true, not looking opptismitic IMO.
He's un-vatniked his stance in recent interviews. I don't think he's going to give Russia the keys to the kingdom, but I also thing the likelyhood of a US diplomatic self-dick-punching on the level of the dogshit Obama nuclear deal with Iran is higher than I'd like it; I think the major saving grace there is Putin/Russia are so high on their own supply they could be given a magical lifeline that would unstrangle their economy and let them start hoarding military electronics again, and they'd turn it down because they think they hold out for everything.

Really given the tour I thought I think its more about a temperature check of Allies.
 
That temperature check tour is almost certainly will be a shitshow for several countries and the United States. Due to the animosity of the significant faction of the United States govt and people continuing to be there to tard wrangled the Euros. And the animosity of the Euros wanting their American tard wranglers gone while also wanting American dollars and Uncle Sam staying there to be their military that they don't have to pay for.
 
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"A smaller country cannot defeat a country 5x its size without outside assistance" Wow, that's 8 years and whatever in Tuition well spent there bub.

"the intervention has been smooth but if they continue to resist..."
Or, listen to me here, have you considered that Russia's army is fake and gay, they haven't been able to beat a country they share a land border with after three years, and the only thing that will happen if they keep resisting is Russia has another 500% inflation event as their economy sinks further into the toilet.
 
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Reads like any of the chickenshit conservative bloggers who doesn't have a comment section on their news site.

Edit: chucklefuck almost certainly a commenter on Conservative Treehouse. As those commenters love writing the long form format comments.
 
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I've got a masters' degree, and all I can say is that this dipshit is talking out of his ass. Hell, Russia is already falling apart as we speak. The fact that the Chechens can openly beef with other Russian leaders while Moscow needs Nork gooners to bail their asses out goes to show how desperate things are.


Also remember the Russian command is still extremely Soviet, in that talented people are a threat and need to kept away from promotions lest they replace their superiors.
So basically, it's still Byzantium with Soviet characteristics. Glad to see some things haven't changed.

Or, listen to me here, have you considered that Russia's army is fake and gay, they haven't been able to beat a country they share a land border with after three years, and the only thing that will happen if they keep resisting is Russia has another 500% inflation event as their economy sinks further into the toilet.
Most of modern Russia is fake and gay, inflated only by size and the fact that most people won't challenge them. It's like the Wizard of Oz, if he was also alcoholic and sold off half of the shit he's supposed to have to buy a jacuzzi.
 
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The Ukrainian command in that direction is infamously incompetent. For quite a while now Ukrainian forces in several positions have been effectively encircled, but are not withdrawn for no apparent reason. At the same time, Russians can infiltrate through undermanned lines and advance that way. The order to retreat from Vuhledar also came like a week after the road there was cut off, resulting in pointless losses during retreat. This has been happening since Avdiivka, and nothing is changed. The time isn't used to prepare new positions or anything.

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Political "Science" faggots need to stay in their lane.
Interjecting politics into warfighting should be a treason charge (and yes this applies to DEI self-sabotage)

"Don't debate me unless you have at least a master's degree" sounds like a cheap cope to keep out former service boomers who will just shout "Murica #1" and "keel them commies!" at his treasonous faggot ass.
 
Starting off your response with "we will not respond". Ziggers have so much in common, lol.
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Missile strike on the production site of the Kamensky Plant

Location: Kamyansk-Shakhtinsky, Rostov region

The plant produces rocket fuel and was switched to 12-hour work shifts back in 2020.

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"Drone vision is based on movement." school of thinking:

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Russian propagandists have released a video for Ukrainian drone operators to take note of. Now, when suicide bombers of the "second army of the world" hear the sound of a drone, they are told not to freeze like statues, as before, but to lie down comfortably on their sides in anticipation of dying for Putin.

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After years of being warned about these floating trashheaps, some countries have finally decided to do something about the rust buckets Russia uses to evade sanctions.
It only took several of them sinking and polluting the Black Sea with oil.
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We will see whether any of that is put into practice. These countries can barely bring themselves to levy sanctions against these ships.
 
Starting off your response with "we will not respond". Ziggers have so much in common, lol.
That is a bit too on the nose even for Orban. That tweet really implies that somehow Hungary is involved in putting this alleged ceasefire proposal on the table. Why the fuck does he care so much anyway.

That said, If its the same nonsense Russia floated around a year ago, its not a ceasefire proposal. Its Terms of Surrender. A Ceasefire just means all sides stop shooting at each other and the conflict is frozen in its current state, to resume at any time. I think what he was trying to say was Peace offer, which would be terms for ending the war. The Treaty of Paris that ended the US Revolutionary War was a peace treaty. The British Empire agreed to cede sovereignty of the 13 colonies and the Mississippi river system to the United States, while the United States agreed to respect British control over Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and the former territories of New France north of the source of the Mississippi River and then West of Lake of the Woods. Nobody got everything what the wanted, but both sides got enough that restarting the war was (in theory) not worth the trouble.

Russia's offer of "peace" amounted to Ukraine not only disarming its military, but also surrendering foreign policy control to Moscow. It would be impossible for the country to remain independent if it accepted those terms. The war would either resume or end in the non-existence of the Ukrainian State. Which is not a Peace treaty. Its a surrender treaty.
 
Russian propagandists have released a video for Ukrainian drone operators to take note of. Now, when suicide bombers of the "second army of the world" hear the sound of a drone, they are told not to freeze like statues, as before, but to lie down comfortably on their sides in anticipation of dying for Putin.

That video still shows the guy just standing still, but yes, obviously dropping down and playing possum would be a far better way to avoid getting drone struck than just standing still. In the small chance the drone operator didn't see you standing, they won't waste the drone or its payload on what is probably a corpse, but if you just remain standing, you remove any doubt that you're not a casualty (though you will soon become one). Gotta wonder the depth of the mushbrain on the guy who came up with the "just stand still" policy. The soldiers themselves are arguably just following orders, but surely most of them have used digital cameras and smartphones and are aware that they are fully capable of "seeing" things that aren't moving - why would the camera on a drone be any different? The whole standing still thing is one of the sillier things in this war and I doubt I'd believe it if there weren't so many videos of it actually happening.
 
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I have a Masters (well an MBA. I'm not proud about it) and a Poli Sci degree (even less proud). Does that qualify me to proclaim this moron to be a complete and utter moron? No don't expect me to give you facts! My credentials alone prove my case!
 
Some of these guys may have served during the Occupation of Afghanistan :cryblood::cryblood::cryblood:
The Soviet Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued leaflets to troops which used pictograms and simple language so that conscripts would know Afghanistan was not the USSR or Eastern Bloc, that local customs had to be respected - no local girlfriends (and the simple minded who post images on Insta of upper class Afghans in Western garb, as tho these people were representative, seem to think the Taleban are somehow alien to that place). Moreover, the cargo 300 business of repatriating fallen solders was carried out efficiently. And the Amin government (whose locally alienating mixture of ideological aggression and possibly independent mindedness offended the Soviets) was ejected quickly. Putin perhaps thought he could somehow repeat that, that the comedian would flee or be killed, but the Russian military really has hollowed out in comparison to the late Soviet force. It's actually sad that such old men are recruited. It's unseemly. Yet likely they weren't forced. No Russian is compelled to serve there, unless sailors on whatever naval vessels they have left are counted.

Pope Francis is again inappropriate, calling Russians and Ukrainians brothers / original link
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During Sunday prayer on Dec. 15, Pope Francis referred to Russia and Ukraine as "brothers," while reiterating calls for peace in Russia’s war against Ukraine.

"They are brothers, cousins. Let them come to an understanding. War is always a defeat. Peace to the whole world," the pope said during a visit to the French island of Corsica.

As a precursor to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, the Kremlin has repeatedly framed its invasion as an effort to reunite the two nations as "one people," relying on numerous false historical claims. In the lead-up to the invasion, Russian President Vladimir Putin invoked biblical imagery, describing the two countries as a "brotherhood" and comparing their relationship to that of Cain and Abel.

The pope has earned a controversial reputation in Ukraine with his earlier remarks that relativized the responsibility of Russia’s war, encouraging Ukrainians to have the "courage" to negotiate for peace.
 
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The whole standing still thing is one of the sillier things in this war and I doubt I'd believe it if there weren't so many videos of it actually happening.
I think the general idea might be that many FPV cameras are low quality, so if you don't move, you might blend in somewhat with the pixel soup, but not all drones have bad cameras and humans don't blend in the way a deer or small rodent would, being pole-shaped and often in the middle of a road or a path.

"Playing dead" might work, but a drone with a 4k camera can see people blink or breathe or minor facial muscle twitches.
Drone operators often have a decent idea of where the corpses in their area are, and they sometimes drop grenades on "unconfirmed" new corpses to make sure nobody is merely pretending.


Vuhledar after being "improved" to the standard of an average Russian backwater city.
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Avdiivka. Note that someone went through the trouble of breaking into every garage.

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To be fair, the Pope is somewhat correct. The main reason Russia started this war, aside from rebuilding their Soviet Empire, is because Ukrainians are the closest thing to Russians outside of Russia. Russia is running out of white people (thanks to Vodka and abortions) and Moscow wants to absorb Ukraine's white population into Russia to offset that.

Which is, of course, the wrong thing to do. If I was in Putin's shoes, I wouldn't bother with a war, I'd just offer ethnic Ukrainians prefab homes and money to move to Russia. Show the Ukrainians that they will have money, a nice home, and a nice job that can pay for a family of four of they move to Russia. Essentially, we'd do the same thing Spain did to try and attract colonists to the New World. While at the same time, we'd keep selling oil and gas to the EU to fund this scheme.

It would have been a win-win situation. Russia keeps its reputation as a military power, gains the trust of the EU by becoming its gas station, and they get Ukrainian immigrants coming in to help the ethnic Russian population bolster its numbers, and poverty-stricken Ukrainians get a quick way to get rich.

But I suppose former KGB agents are too barbaric to come up with a plan that doesn't involve human suffering as a catalyst.
 
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