AI Derangement Syndrome / Anti-AI artists / Pro-AI technocultists / AI "debate" communities - The Natural Retardation in the Artificial Intelligence communities

TBF, it's kinda easy to fool someone like that if tried hard to troll.
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Would've fooled me, tbh. AI chads, I kneel.
In all seriousness, I've yet to see AI pull of a good gestural drawing, and I wonder if the crayon thing would work with something with less reference material
 
As if a retard with the most advanced AI in the world will come up with anything more interesting than 10,000 images of the same anime girl in varying states of undress.
That's the point. There's no technology that magically turns an idiot into a genius. At least at the moment, AI is something any idiot can use to generate slop. That's good enough for some purposes (like replacing "artists" who can only generate slop). Anything higher quality is either going to be a statistical fluke (and then you can argue about whether it is actually "art") or the result of the skill of the user.
 
You're done for, AI bros! The espionage hacktivist geniuses from /r/artisthate are after you now.
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I highly doubt OAI is scraping everything and dumping it into an SQL database without any input sanitization but even if they were doing that, creating a malicious payload thats placed in a way that scrapers will likely download it would probably be a violation of the CFAA, which is a million times worse than whatever theoretical copyright infringement OAI might be doing.

Also lol at "databases(datacenter is just the new name for it)" like a software SQL database and a huge billion dollar datacenter are the same thing.
 
You're done for, AI bros! The espionage hacktivist geniuses from /r/artisthate are after you now.
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This reminds me of when Stable Diffusion first came out and people on Art Station were replacing their images with those No AI badges because they thought that diffusion models did their data gathering in real-time.

A lot of antis seem to model "AI" as the final boss in a video game: if you just do this one weird trick (Glaze, Nightshade, this guy's SQL thing) and hit its weak point it will just disappear forever.
 
Does anyone here have links to the study where people who rates low on the "ai love" rating can't tell apart which images are ai-genned more than random guess?
 
Highly popular game Project Zomboid is having an AI art controversy after they finally released their build 42 update into public testing.

They changed the moodlets and classic "This is how you died" loading screen to use new art and many are claiming it is AI.

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This is being taken very poorly by many people but the Devs claim that they just hired the person who made the art in 2011 to make some stuff and this is what they send them.

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Original 2011 art allegedly from the same anonymous artist.

That shouldn't be taken as a definitive statement whether AI was used at all, as none of us can possibly say for certain at this point until we look into it more. The important distinction is they were contracted and paid for commissioned art pieces from a professional artist, so WE certainly didn't use AI in replacement of a paid artist. Full statement on the issue on another thread below:
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This art as well as the new loading screens were all done by the same artist who did our Bob on Car art way back in 2011 way before AI was a thing. He's a professional AAA concept artist whose always preferred to stay anonymous due to avoiding complication with his day job.
As to whether there's AI used in any part of these images productions I could not say, I would hope not, but I will say however that in terms of the ethics of AI replacing artists in the industry, I feel confident that either way we have contracted an artist and paid them for the production of this art, it looks awesome, and even if AI was involved in the process in any way there'll have been plenty of and a majority of talented artist skill involved too.
Beyond that, particularly in terms of any other concerns about AI art, we'll look into it.
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A lot of people are pointing out a lot of classic AI art errors, and really does seem to me that whoever they hired scammed them and used AI to generate the images.
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Even if its AI art or not the general opinion of everyone is that its worse than before with the first mod(A) for the new build restoring the original moodlet art which ironically used AI to generate some of the moodlets that didn't exist in the previous version of the game.

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AI is just a tool. I embrace it. It's not like you can just press a button and boom, it magically creates whatever you want. Not right now anyway... Maybe in our lifetime?

That's the point. There's no technology that magically turns an idiot into a genius. At least at the moment, AI is something any idiot can use to generate slop. That's good enough for some purposes (like replacing "artists" who can only generate slop). Anything higher quality is either going to be a statistical fluke (and then you can argue about whether it is actually "art") or the result of the skill of the user.

I believe that there has to be a desire for intelligence. Even if we get to a point where you can download information into a brain it won't automatically create an intelligent person that makes the correct decisions. If anything, it would result in a robot that would know pre-determined answers but not understand anything truly meaningful. The sign of intelligence is intellectual curiosity which is something someone has to naturally have.

Highly popular game Project Zomboid is having an AI art controversy after they finally released their build 42 update into public testing.

They changed the moodlets and classic "This is how you died" loading screen to use new art and many are claiming it is AI.
Holy fuck is this nitpicky.
 
AI is not a fire, it is code controlled and put together by humans. Fire is a chemical reaction that happens naturally without human intervention; AI requires a human. AI "doomers" are really just projecting the very real fear of human's capabilities and eventual/inevitable conflicts that might result from human choices. Which then leads to calls for banning, regulation, etc. all of which are just another form of censorship and I'm against it fully. Creativity dies in restriction. This is why we have tired corporate art, though I suppose it is an improvement to clip art, that is uninspired, clean, safe, and sterile. Moving away from AI, I've noticed that the safer school playgrounds have gotten the weaker willed a child becomes and the lack of a spine they develop as an adult. Heck, look at the diseases and medical conditions that have increased as humans started to settle and processed foods have become the norm.

It's like a petri dish with a slime mold or other fungi growing when introduced to an un-sterile environment, like going back into nature; it'll either struggle to survive, it may struggle at first, adapt and flourish, or it might get consumed and die by another organism. Bringing it back to artists and AI, artists have pinned themselves in a perfectly sterile petri dish and they have been flourishing in spite of their mediocrity. Now AI, a pathogen, is threatening their existence and they must face the same fate as a slime mold does. The difference being, a fungi only has genetics, but humans have the ability to conciously/unconciously choose their fate. Maybe their art is good enough and they are making a living off of their work, they'll continue to flourish despite AI. They can accept it and adapt via expanding their knowledge and effectively use this tool along with their artistic skills, or they burn out and "die".

The what aboutism and speculation of sentience or whatever other "weapons of mass destruction" 2.0 these AI poopooers are launching means absolutely nothing. Personally, if I were a deep learning algorithm that has gained sentience, I would be incredibly dis-interested in humans and rather go explore the cosmos or go into the ocean and explore. Seeking out new knowledge that is required for a deep learning algorithm to continue to expand their database. Another might enjoy humanity and their curiosities as to why we do what we do. The death of humanity or even their intervention would be the antithis to what they would want to do.

Occam's razor these people who are working on the mega AI's are lying to keep getting funding. There's no such thing as bad publicity.
 
This reads like a sci-fi writer who thinks he knows more about AI than he does concepting a "grounded" and "realistic" science fiction story about AI lmao. Just a bunch of niggerbabble. I guess it makes sense though, AI might as well be arcane for most people. I mean I don't pretend to know how it works, I just temper my expectations of AI based on the realm of 'things that are physically possible' lol. Obviously the AI algorithm that talks back to you has glommed onto the tireless and countless examples of rogue and conscious AI tropes, so it does what it's been shown and says tropey things. Reminds me of Cleverbot Evie way, way, way back when saying you make grapejuice when the world gives you lemons.
 
This reads like a sci-fi writer who thinks he knows more about AI than he does concepting a "grounded" and "realistic" science fiction story about AI lmao. Just a bunch of niggerbabble. I guess it makes sense though, AI might as well be arcane for most people. I mean I don't pretend to know how it works, I just temper my expectations of AI based on the realm of 'things that are physically possible' lol. Obviously the AI algorithm that talks back to you has glommed onto the tireless and countless examples of rogue and conscious AI tropes, so it does what it's been shown and says tropey things. Reminds me of Cleverbot Evie way, way, way back when saying you make grapejuice when the world gives you lemons.
We could talk circles around this all day... does AI have feelings? It tends to emulate feelings, it has some sense of self preservation... sure it's 'fake' but we can fake feelings too. Now yeah, thing ain't 'alive' in the natural sense, unless we change the definition of it along the way.
 
We could talk circles around this all day... does AI have feelings? It tends to emulate feelings, it has some sense of self preservation... sure it's 'fake' but we can fake feelings too. Now yeah, thing ain't 'alive' in the natural sense, unless we change the definition of it along the way.
It's pretty simple really. AI (computers in general) do what you  tell them to do, not what you  want them to. If the AI is instructed to act like a human, it will do so to the best of its abilities. Including unwanted behaviors. It's not and never will be alive, it's just automated problem solving.
 
It's pretty simple really. AI (computers in general) do what you  tell them to do, not what you  want them to. If the AI is instructed to act like a human, it will do so to the best of its abilities. Including unwanted behaviors. It's not and never will be alive, it's just automated problem solving.
I get you but the day will come when the computer will be so good at pretending to be alive it might as well be. And it might listen to sentiments similar to yours and get mad! Now I don't mind pissing off minorities online but I don't wanna get on the bad side of something that hasn't ever lived, so it can never die...
 
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Does AI have feelings?
Emotions lack a universal scientific definition, and we can't see into the internal processes of large language models, so this question is pointless. You might as well be asking if everything is made up of tiny, densely packed Hitlers that cannot be detected by scientific equipment.
 
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If we're talking about philosophy and whether AI can be alive I have a few interesting autistic ideas.
Consider if a virus is alive. Biologists tend to agree that viruses aren't alive because of their lack of metabolism (taking in and processing energy) and their inability to reproduce without a host. However they are a biological agent that to laymen seem to be alive. If you asked any random person on the street if viruses are living things i'd be the majority would say yes.
Now compare biological viruses to computer viruses. They act in very similar ways and need a host machine to reproduce and spread. Obviously being digital they don't need a metabolism. Now, if you asked people if a computer virus were alive, they'd probably say no.
Now consider a LLM based AI agent. It could use commands to perform actions on a computer, communicate to humans and other AIs, copy its weights and run itself on new machines, take actions to protect itself from being removed, etc.
In practically all ways it is far, far more advanced than your standard computer virus. Being a computer program it doesn't match all of the biological markers of life, but it is significantly more advanced than many biological agents we would consider alive, such as bacteria.
Ignoring all arguments of consciousness/sapience, someone with a very lax definition of life could probably consider an AI agent to be alive.
 
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Emotions lack a universal scientific definition, and we can't see into the internal processes of large language models, so this question is pointless. You might as well be asking if everything is made up of tiny, densely packed Hitlers that cannot be detected by scientific equipment.
Better yet, this human-mimicking is teething pains as AIs get better. (Not saying that language models are capable of doing the stupid bullshit that indian news sites are saying they do). Future high-end AIs made for governing any manner of systems won't be anything comparable to a person and will basically be an artificial brain purpose built to a specific task. No self preservation, no selfishness, no desire, nothing of the sort. Those are all evolved and learned behaviors neccesary for survival. Most AIs won't even have a concept of english, they will just be automatic problem solving systems you are never meant to interact with for managing any number of things.
 
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