‘If You Eat Food in New York City, the Cost Is Going To Go Up’ - Laugh at another self-inflicted problem for bugmen

Congestion pricing sparks outcry from NYC food businesses​

by Melissa McCart and Andrea Strong Dec 16, 2024, 4:57pm EST

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Not everyone based in the five boroughs is for congestion pricing, designed to reduce traffic, improve air quality, and fund public transportation: The toll that starts January 5 will require vehicles entering below 60th Street to pay $9 per day per car, and up to $21.60 per entry, in the case of trucks. In response to the impending deadline, a coalition of over 100 food distributors, restaurateurs, trade associations, wholesale markets, food banks, and small businesses joined together to urge Gov. Kathy Hochul to exempt food and beverage distributors based within the five boroughs.

Their biggest argument is that the plan will raise prices throughout the supply chain. “If you eat food in New York City” at restaurants, grocery stores, or food pantries, “the cost is going to go up,” says Margaret Magnarelli, vice president of marketing for Baldor, a major food purveyor that’s leading the coalition. Baldor’s intention is to try to absorb as much as they can, Magnarelli says, but since the multiple tolls per day will hit every truck across the distribution chain, the cost of food in NYC is going to go up.

New Yorkers already pay high prices for dining out, driven by rising ingredient costs, fair wages, and steep rents. Restaurants like Harlem’s Contento and Carroll Gardens’ Buttermilk Channel have recently closed due to rising costs, they say. Industry leaders warn prices will rise further, dealing another blow to the industry and diners.

All New York City restaurants rely on food distributors with warehouses in Queens, Brooklyn, and the Bronx. These distributors, such as those at the Hunts Point markets, handle over 60 percent of the city’s produce, meat, and fish — food that cannot be transported via public transit and must come in by truck.

“A restaurant’s fish order isn’t taking the 6 train into the congestion zone to avoid the fee, and their broccoli isn’t hopping on the 2 train either,” said Andrew Rigie, executive director of the NYC Hospitality Alliance. “It’s just a tax that suppliers will pass on to small businesses, forcing restaurants to absorb costs or raise prices.”

Restaurateurs like Tom Colicchio as well as Sean Feeney (Lilia, Misi), and food distributors like Chefs’ Warehouse and Fulton Fish Market, which supplies nearly half the city’s seafood, support reducing congestion and improving air quality, but argue the current plan unfairly burdens food businesses.

“We are New Yorkers serving New York, collectively employing tens of thousands of local residents and contributing significantly to our city’s economy,” the coalition states.

The coalition also argues that congestion pricing will hamper healthy food access, impacting “those at the greatest risk of chronic and diet-related disease.”

Gov. Hochul’s office disputes claims that congestion pricing will raise food costs, citing reduced tolls during overnight hours. “This program will make deliveries easier and faster,” said spokesperson Sam Spokony. Overnight tolls will range from $2.25 to $5.40, offering a 75 percent discount for businesses making overnight deliveries.

Critics counter that businesses like Master Purveyors in Hunts Point, which operates 14 trucks crossing below 60th Street daily, will face significant costs in part because the rules are more punishing for trucks than passenger cars. “The congestion tax — $14.90 per crossing — isn’t charged once a day [as is the case with passenger cars and motorcycles, a spokesperson confirmed] but every time a truck crosses into the zone,” said owner Mark Solasz. “The cost will be passed to restaurants and, ultimately, consumers. What about the bodega owner making $12 sandwiches? Where’s the room to raise prices to $15?”

The plan is expected to fund $15 billion in mass transit improvements, including the Second Avenue subway extension, better subway service, and air quality initiatives. Measures include electric truck charging infrastructure, air filtration units in schools near highways, and expanded greenspace.

However, some argue congestion pricing will displace truck traffic to low-income neighborhoods already struggling with air quality issues. “The program doesn’t eliminate truck traffic — it shifts it from Manhattan to Environmental Justice areas like the South Bronx,” Nicole Ackerina, CEO of Fulton Fish Market, told Eater via email.

In terms of funding the MTA, critics also point to the existing metropolitan commuter transportation mobility tax (MCTMT), which they say already charges trucks to support the MTA. “New York City’s food and beverage distributors find themselves doubly penalized for providing a vital service to our city,” the coalition argues.

Magnarelli from Baldor says her company already pays around six-figures a year for that tax. The coalition points to a hypocrisy of treating food distributors as city-based businesses for the MCTMT, but not for congestion pricing. “We are New Yorkers serving New York,” the coalition letter states.

“This is another example of Swiss cheese legislation,” said Jeffrey Bank, owner of the Alicart Restaurant Group that includes Carmine’s. “New York City policies have been brutal for small businesses. It’s almost impossible to plan.”

Fulton Fish Market’s Ackerina called the timing particularly cruel for an industry just rebounding from the COVID pandemic. “This program is a cash grab by the MTA, with limited environmental benefits. It will directly impact retailers, restaurants, and the tourism industry,” she said.

“No one in the food world supports this,” Ackerina added. “Wholesalers, distributors, retailers, restaurant owners, chefs, fishmongers, butchers, and farmers all understand the negative impact on the city’s food distribution and restaurant industries.”

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You use cashless tolling in New York now right? Surely some kind of verified supplier e-license that provides an exemption during delivery hours could be worked out? Maybe register it to a specific vehicle license plate?
The goal of the tax is to raise money to bail out the corrupt and bankrupt transit system, not to reduce congestion.

Urbanist bugman supported the congestion charge because they thought it would only affect carbrained suburban rubes (and there’s nothing they love more than making other people subsidize their lifestyle), but it turns out that most traffic in NYC is commercial trucks and Ubers/taxis…
 
It's too late. They fled like roaches during covid. They're everywhere in upstate NY and rural New England. I'm sure they went into rural PA as well. Boomer retirees have been invading Virginia and the Carolinas for two decades. They're a plague of locusts.

Where I'm at it's mostly people from Boston and Connecticut. My buddy works for the town, in emergency services no less, and hears them bitching all the time about how taxes have gone up. They moved here to get away from high cost of living, blah blah blah. Guess what dipshit? You jacked the property values sky high and when the town revaluated the tax burden, it dramatically shifted from business to residential. You're gonna pay more and you aren't going to get anything extra for it because they didn't actually raise taxes as a whole.
 
Urbanist bugman supported the congestion charge because they thought it would only affect carbrained suburban rubes (and there’s nothing they love more than making other people subsidize their lifestyle), but it turns out that most traffic in NYC is commercial trucks and Ubers/taxis…
This is why I say: no half measures. Time to listen to all the bikefag blogs and subreddits that love to take pictures of delivery trucks impeding their sacred bike lanes, and ban trucks entirely from the city.
 
NYC would be an incredibly easy city to conquer. Just cut off a couple roads and blockade the ports and they'll be starved into submission within a few weeks tops. No wonder the British took it no problem during the Revolutionary War.
 
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On one hand fuck 'em, on the other don't fuck 'em too hard or they'll go elsewhere and shit up elsewhere too.
I think they should exempt actual restaurants for dine-in, but fuck DoorDash fags and the like. They can go get raped for all I care. Like I give a shit if Taylor Lorenz has to pay $35 for her avocado toaste instead of $25. Try going outside you worthless lumps.
 
The goal of the tax is to raise money to bail out the corrupt and bankrupt transit system, not to reduce congestion.

Urbanist bugman supported the congestion charge because they thought it would only affect carbrained suburban rubes (and there’s nothing they love more than making other people subsidize their lifestyle), but it turns out that most traffic in NYC is commercial trucks and Ubers/taxis…
The solution is obviously freight subway. Freight subway comes in, and at the stations there are a dozen guys who have a minute to unload the boxes for those stations and then they're transported with hand carts to their final destinations.

Urbanists approve of this idea.
Cargo trams already exist, so...
Not that it'd make sense for a grade separated heavy rail system, but "sense" isn't necessarily what urbanists really care about.
 
The goal of the tax is to raise money to bail out the corrupt and bankrupt transit system, not to reduce congestion.

Despite the fact that we recently had an article here that something like 3 billion dollars a year is lost because black people are niggers and don't pay to use the mass transit. Seem like that would be a better place to fund mass transit, by making the fucking people that use it fucking pay for it!
 
Perhaps they should solve their real problem: 48 percent of NYC transit riders, both bus and subway, refuse to pay fares. Basically all the black riders refuse to pay anything
What about the bodega owner making $12 sandwiches? Where’s the room to raise prices to $15?”
If you can't figure out how to make a fucking sandwich in your shithole studio apartment, then you deserve to pay 15 bucks to the bodega guy.
 
The solution is obviously freight subway. Freight subway comes in, and at the stations there are a dozen guys who have a minute to unload the boxes for those stations and then they're transported with hand carts to their final destinations.
Lol I would love to send a 200 car freight train through the NYC subway. It would singlehandedly improve crime rates on whatever line you put it through (although I guess all the crackheads would just shift their crime to the crowds waiting at the stations).
 
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>Eating out
Learn to be a bugman who eats in. Rice and beans, you'll love it.
Rice and beans is always good. You can make a huge batch of it and freeze it in individual portions. Heat up, add another protein (meat or otherwise), maybe some more veggies, maybe some sauce, ta da, meal. Pennies a portion. I also used to go to a Mexican bodega that had basically this behind the counter, and for $5 you could get a giant bowl of rice, beans, whatever meat they had, enough to last for two days. This would probably be more like $10 now (or as much as $20 in a mega bughive) but still a good deal.
 
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