Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Positron]

#Harvard #Duckface

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

That's because puberty blockers mean their bones don't fuse. Part of the side effects of going into early puberty is that you end up being shorter than average because your bones will end up fusing earlier (even if you have a short period of being taller than your peers). So what happens when you delay that fusing effect?

These kids are just walking experiments, so hell if I know. But it wouldn't surprise me if they end up being taller, not shorter.

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that puberty blockers affect males and females differently. They make natal boys taller but natal girls shorter- so the exact opposite of what they probably would want to be able to “pass”.

Puberty blockers are used in both males and females to grow taller. In fact, they're more commonly used in girls because girls stop growing almost immediately after they get their period.

In the interviews with women who took Lupron to delay puberty or grow taller, most described depression and anxiety. Several recounted their struggles, or a daughter’s, with suicidal urges. One mother of a Lupron patient described seizures.

Such complaints have recently come under scrutiny at the FDA, which regulates drug safety.

“We are currently conducting a specific review of nervous system and psychiatric events in association with the use of GnRH agonists, [a class of drugs] including Lupron, in pediatric patients,” the FDA said in a statement in response to questions from Kaiser Health News and Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting.

The FDA is also reviewing deadly seizures stemming from the pediatric use of Lupron and other drugs in its class. While there are other drugs similar to Lupron, it is a market leader and thousands of women have joined Facebook groups or internet forums in recent years claiming that Lupron ruined their lives or left them crippled.

But the FDA has yet to issue additional warnings about pediatric use, and unapproved uses of the drugs persist.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems / Archive
But yeah, that explains cases like Nikki Tutorials:

 

[barrow greeter]

isn't he supposed to be graduated yet? how many years deep is the eunuch into Jew-U uh sorry I mean "Harvard"?

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

The FDA is also reviewing deadly seizures stemming from the pediatric use of Lupron and other drugs in its class. While there are other drugs similar to Lupron, it is a market leader and thousands of women have joined Facebook groups or internet forums in recent years claiming that Lupron ruined their lives or left them crippled.

What a rabbit hole, I would never give lupron to my "precocious" daughter... What for? So comparatively underdeveloped kids don't bully her for what they later can't attain fast enough? Again, what the frick is going on here?
All this is just monstrous. Also, what about being tall and lanky? I was relentlessly bullied for it but I don't have osteoporosis. What's the medical reasoning for administering these drugs to girls? The "psychological" seeming argument about being short surely doesn't check out, since, again, they will be bullied either way. What is wrong with these parents? They really do treat their kids like prize cattle. I'm utterly disgusted. I think I've seen that tranny... yeah, looks totally normal... not like a freak or anything, surely wasn't bullied for looking like that either. I would've assumed that's just a naturally weird looking guy who later transitioned but there's not end to it. Weren't castrati often described exactly the way that one looks? Overgrown, disproportionate and all around weird?

What an absurd line of reasoning, aren't men going crazy over petite women like audrey hepburn?

 

[unwieldy_object]

What a rabbit hole, I would never give lupron to my "precocious" daughter... What for? So comparatively underdeveloped kids don't bully her for what they later can't attain fast enough? Again, what the frick is going on here?
All this is just monstrous. Also, what about being tall and lanky? I was relentlessly bullied for it but I don't have osteoporosis. What's the medical reasoning for administering these drugs to girls? The "psychological" seeming argument about being short surely doesn't check out, since, again, they will be bullied either way. What is wrong with these parents? They really do treat their kids like prize cattle. I'm utterly disgusted. I think I've seen that tranny... yeah, looks totally normal... not like a freak or anything, surely wasn't bullied for looking like that either. I would've assumed that's just a naturally weird looking guy who later transitioned but there's not end to it. Weren't castrati often described exactly the way that one looks? Overgrown, disproportionate and all around weird?

What an absurd line of reasoning, aren't men going crazy over petite women like audrey hepburn?

It's not optimal for a 6 year old to start menstruating for quite a few reasons which is the point of Lupron etc.

 

[Peaches Demure]

What a rabbit hole, I would never give lupron to my "precocious" daughter... What for? So comparatively underdeveloped kids don't bully her for what they later can't attain fast enough? Again, what the frick is going on here?
All this is just monstrous. Also, what about being tall and lanky? I was relentlessly bullied for it but I don't have osteoporosis. What's the medical reasoning for administering these drugs to girls? The "psychological" seeming argument about being short surely doesn't check out, since, again, they will be bullied either way. What is wrong with these parents? They really do treat their kids like prize cattle. I'm utterly disgusted. I think I've seen that tranny... yeah, looks totally normal... not like a freak or anything, surely wasn't bullied for looking like that either. I would've assumed that's just a naturally weird looking guy who later transitioned but there's not end to it. Weren't castrati often described exactly the way that one looks? Overgrown, disproportionate and all around weird?

What an absurd line of reasoning, aren't men going crazy over petite women like audrey hepburn?

Audrey Hepburn was actually not petite; she was just very slender. Her height was 5'7''.

But yeah, I agree with you that a few inches of extra height is not worth the lifelong and severe complications brought on by Lupron use. 4'10'' and perfectly healthy is preferable over 5'1'' and needing a hip replacement in your mid-twenties plus having fertility issues. The only valid medical use of Lupron is cancer treatment, IMO.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

It's not optimal for a 6 year old to start menstruating for quite a few reasons which is the point of Lupron etc.

So, what exactly happens to those children otherwise? You know, in the very short, neglible timespan before the advent of lupron?

Audrey Hepburn was actually not petite; she was just very slender. Her height was 5'7''.

Ty! Tho, it's not what I'd call "tall" yet. But yeah, it's getting there. Maybe I should've just looked up height stats on asian women or something to make my point.

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

So, what exactly happens to those children otherwise? You know, in the very short, neglible timespan before the advent of lupron?

Growth plates start fusing once puberty starts. Height sounds like it's not a big deal until someone is stuck at the size of a six-year-old for the rest of their life which has compounding risk factors for a lot of other health problems including high-risk pregnancies and childbirth. Menstrating also puts young girls at much higher statistical likelihood for various forms of sexual assault and rape -- which, because of the early puberty, these girls can now get pregnant from.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

#Harvard #Duckface

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Non-audition Broadway show choir.

https://noteabl.es/

https://www.youtube.com/user/harvardnoteables

 

[Dr. Butt]

Jazz's female friends all make the exact same face in photos - 50% "nottu dis shit" and 50% "Nice, I look fucking hot next to this weirdo".

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I thought the Noteables were an academic group due to all the Asians, but it's a Broadway group. From the current group, Jazz's the only one pursuing arts.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

Menstrating also puts young girls at much higher statistical likelihood for various forms of sexual assault and rape -- which, because of the early puberty, these girls can now get pregnant from.

That's no reason to fuck with the potential, theoretical victims like that.
With that line of thinking they also legitimize child transition.
There they also say it's all about putting the tomboys a psychological ease, they promise the parents to make their kid a better fit for school. But the other points are well taken. I just have the creeping suspicion, that's it's mostly done on these latter grounds and not really the former, actual medical concerns... what about teenage girls who just happen to be petite and have the same risks but aren't "precocious"?
Do they get delayed?
I don't think the drug is approved for anything like that, because precocious puberty is defined as something like "puberty before 10". It's all very sussy of social engineering at the cost of kids health. Instead of fixing the rape problem and making schools safe, they frankenstein the kids.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

I thought the Noteables were an academic group due to all the Asians, but it's a Broadway group. From the current group, Jazz's the only one pursuing arts.

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He got handed a Harvard education and this is what he does with it? How depressing, and frankly academic malpractice.

I wouldn't admit anyone for an arts concentration without a robust portfolio. It's a waste of everyone's time, including the teachers.

 

[Dipodomys]

I thought the Noteables were an academic group due to all the Asians, but it's a Broadway group. From the current group, Jazz's the only one pursuing arts.

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"Alto"

 

[Haftag]

Fuck academia, pursuing academic knowledge instead of practical skills is part of what got us into this mess. If I had stuck to the academical english that I learned, I'd be either a babbling babboon not able to put two sentences together, or a posh professor with only archaic knowledge, and either way barely able to hold any conversation.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

He got handed a Harvard education and this is what he does with it? How depressing, and frankly academic malpractice.

I wouldn't admit anyone for an arts concentration without a robust portfolio. It's a waste of everyone's time, including the teachers.

This group doesn't even ask for auditions. Anybody can join. They aren't bad, but they aren't Broadway material either.

Also, Jazz's "arts" is just macaroni art.

 

[KiwiFuzz2]

This group doesn't even ask for auditions. Anybody can join. They aren't bad, but they aren't Broadway material either.

Also, Jazz's "arts" is just macaroni art.

Bless him for finding a group of theater dorks to hang out with. I have no criticism there.

I'm talking about him being a literal fucking art major, which is something we've sort of "joked" about before, but I didn't think that was the literal truth. I think I assumed that having gotten the brass ring of HARVARD, he must be doing something to further his future employability.

College art is a complete waste of time unless you're either VERY good, you're interested in selling/appraising/critiquing/curating, or you're just there to fuck around in the studio for six hours a week and have fun.

It's one thing to rip on his art if he knows he's just there to fuck around and have fun, but KFC his art would be mediocre on a wall with the kids I was in high school with.

I think he's a child and shouldn't have been left to decide for himself what to major in.

 

[Positron]

 

[Laughingator]

I think he's a child and shouldn't have been left to decide for himself what to major in.

That's the thing though, the puberty blockers stunted his mental growth and he's mentally a Middle Schooler.
He couldn't even cut it in a regular High School. If he had a real major at Harvard, he'd flunk out
The ONLY reason he's at Harvard is he's famous and poster child for WOKE.

So instead Harvard has him do BS "art" that takes no skill or talent and he gets an A for effort.

 

[Coo Coo Bird]

What a rabbit hole, I would never give lupron to my "precocious" daughter... Again, what the frick is going on here?
All this is just monstrous. Also, what about being tall and landy? I was relentlessly bullied for it. What's the medical reasoning for administering it? The being short argument surely doesn't check out. What is wrong with these parents? They do really treat their kids like prize cattle. I'm utterly disgusted.

In 1999, the FDA examined 6,000 adverse-event reports about Lupron filed by doctors, patients and researchers. Although the FDA couldn’t locate its 1999 report on the matter, a court document that summarized the findings of the report said it found “high prevalence rates for serious side effects” including depression, joint pain and weakness, and noted similar effects in men and women with very different ailments suggested the drug was causing the problems rather than underlying medical conditions.

The FDA made no major change, but reviewed the drug labels to determine whether the side effects were covered.

The drug made headlines two years later. Justice Department officials announced a civil and criminal settlement with Lupron’s then-maker. Prosecutors said the Lupron sales team rewarded doctors prescribing the drug for prostate cancer with ski trips, golf outings and bribes. In a court document, one gynecologist said a salesperson told him he “could earn $100,000 annually” by treating the women in his practice with Lupron.

The settlement resulted in a corporate guilty plea for conspiracy to violate prescribing laws and one of the largest fines at the time — $875 million.

According to medical research, doctors prescribe the puberty blocking drug to short kids to essentially give them more time to get taller, since puberty culminates with the body’s long bone growth ending.

Medical researchers have repeatedly warned against such off-label usage. A 2003 study in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that some kids on drugs like Lupron developed osteopenia and lost too much bone density during a three-year course of treatment to justify the therapy. In other words, the lifetime risk of breaking a bone outweighed the reward of growing a bit taller.
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Eugster, director of pediatric endocrinology at the Indiana University School of Medicine, has written that far too many doctors confronted with parents’ concerns about a short child reaching puberty too soon are inclined to “do something,” even though the safety of off-label prescribing “can’t be inferred to exist.”

And the puberty-delaying drugs are expensive — $20,000 to $40,000 for two years of treatment, Eugster reported in The Journal of Pediatrics in 2015.

Women fear drug they used to halt puberty led to health problems

Doctors make shitloads of money off Lupron. Parents can be talked into anything if they're convinced there's something wrong with their kids. Do the math.

It's not optimal for a 6 year old to start menstruating for quite a few reasons which is the point of Lupron etc.

The primary reasoning for halting precocious puberty is for height.

My 8 year old daughter has CPP. / Archive

According to the Mayo Clinic:

Treatment​

The primary goal of treatment is for children to grow to adult height.

Treatment for precocious puberty depends on the cause. However, when no cause can be found, treatment may not be needed, depending on the child's age and how fast puberty is moving. Watching the child for several months might be an option.

Treating central precocious puberty​

This usually involves medicine called GnRH analogue therapy, which delays further development. It may be a monthly shot with medicine such as leuprolide acetate (Lupron Depot), or triptorelin (Trelstar, Triptodur Kit). Or some newer formulations can be given at longer intervals.

Children keep getting this medicine until they reach the usual age of puberty. After the treatment stops, puberty starts again.

Precocious puberty

And a site advertising Lupron focuses on height, with fitting in with other kids as an afterthought.

UNDERSTANDING CENTRAL PRECOCIOUS PUBERTY

What's interesting is seeing how blunt a place like r/endometriosis is about it:

Is Lupron side effects? Is it safe for my daughter? / Archive

Or even r/ftm:

I've potentially ruined my life with Lupron. / Archive

At the end of the day, don't trust doctors too much.

Ask a Patient: Lupron / Archive