The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Miller]

Anyone using Linux here remember their first time using it? Why did you switch and what was it like?

The first time I tried Linux was a long time ago back when Ubuntu sent you discs by mail (I still have the 6.06 LTS on a CD). I think a bunch of people on a forum were bringing up Linux quite often so I said why not. I didn't really do much with it because I couldn't find a way to make the wifi dongle work. Then many years later during the Covid lockdown I decided to give Linux another shot, this time with Manjaro. I had it installed on a second SSD so I could boot it whenever I wanted, that's when I noticed that I was using it more than the Windows 10 SSD.
Now I'm on EndeavourOS with KDE and I'm fine with it. I still use Windows 10 sometimes because of a few gaymes that have a rootkit anti-cheat.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Is Emacs worth using

Not unless you specifically want or need a text editor that's also a BGP edge node, MIDI player, and 3DES cracker.

Emacs really is the systemd of editors, now that I think about it.

 

[GNU Abyss]

Sure there is. More time for stuff outside of starring at monitors and hearing of new tech nonsense at every turn that should work optimally out of the box anyway.

Call me prejudiced, but all the people I've met who didn't have at least a passing interest in and a desire to learn how the stuff they interact with every day works weren't much interested in the stuff "outside of staring at monitors" beyond consuming vapid shit.

 

[Max Free]

Call me prejudiced, but all the people I've met who don't have at least a passing interest in and a desire to learn how the stuff they interact with every day works weren't much interested in the stuff "outside of staring at monitors" beyond consuming vapid shit.

You don't know a single musician or artist?

 

[DavidS877]

You don't know a single musician or artist?

I know lots of autists.

Oh, you said ARTIST. Sorry, no, never mind.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

If you think Linux is "absolutely inferior" to Windows 10 you might as well continue on to use Windows 11. They're not that different.

Why is your first reflex to assume someone is comparing linux to windows? He could've also said that Linux Mint was inferior to OpenSUSE bro.

This is what simping too much does to a man's brain.

Simple: I hate Windows. GNU/Linux gives me more control over what I install and run on my machine, something Windows users will never understand.

Yes I will never understand why Linux people want to deal with this shit all day:

As a Windows normie that sometimes or rarely uses linux, I'd like you to explain as slowly as possible why you want this stuff instead of something that works and gives you no hassle. Please take your time.

Call me prejudiced, but all the people I've met who didn't have at least a passing interest in and a desire to learn how the stuff they interact with every day works weren't much interested in the stuff "outside of staring at monitors" beyond consuming vapid shit.

Yo yo chill out on the boomerphobia. Random business slave typing on his keyboard all day has to have a working computer even if he knows nothing about it and have no reason or will to learn anymore than they need to tho.

 

[Betonhaus]

Yes I will never understand why Linux people want to deal with this shit all day:

the first image proves that Linux will run perfectly fine on Windows XP era hardware
And antivirus is unnecessary for Linux users

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Yes I will never understand why Linux people want to deal with this shit all day:

I have never dealt with that since moving to linux, unless I'm running a full DE on a wimpy embedded device I'm fooling around with.

 

[Betonhaus]

I have never dealt with that since moving to linux, unless I'm running a full DE on a wimpy embedded device I'm fooling around with.

I did experience that on my old ThinkServer, but it did not have any GPU or iGPU, just some motherboard chip that was intended to only display a text console on a monitor.

 

[teriyakiburns]

As a Windows normie that sometimes or rarely uses linux, I'd like you to explain as slowly as possible why you want this stuff instead of something that works and gives you no hassle. Please take your time.

I don't. And I don't have to, stalker child. Enjoy chroot jail.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

no hassle. Please take your time.

With all the free information on the internet... it's less of a hassle these days than you think. For example, I was able to remove iwd and replace it with eiwd (I no longer have any d-bus stuff anymore) just by looking for the right information.
More so, Windows isn't problem free either otherwise tech support scammers from India would be broke.
But, on a general level, I'm sure you've hassled over things in life, and came to accept it as worth it in the end. Learning a new language is a hassle, but it's always worth it.

 

[Jeff Q. Anime]

gives you no hassle

I mean, in the last year, my desktop has become unbootable 3 times after a windows update. That never happens on my servers that run linux, and I use arch, btw.

That being said, there are things that linux just doesn't have, like having a browser that can play hdr video, so I can't use it for my desktop. I'm not compromising my features-experience just because windows nukes itself sometimes. That's what backup images are for.

Maybe someday Valve is going to force Linux to be on the ball with new gaming hardware support. Maybe someday NVIDIA will add voltage-frequency curves to the Linux drivers. And VRAM temperature monitoring. And VRM temperature monitoring. And hotspot monitoring. Maybe someday AMD will implement their own ML upscaler to actually compete with DLSS. Maybe someday AMD will try competing at all. Maybe someday XESS will actually go open source.

I have used linux on laptops in the past, but since I'm rocking a snapdragon x now (feel free to laugh) that's not a great option yet. I just use linux where it's appropriate (everything other than my desktop rocking bleeding-edge hardware and overclocks).

 

[Hexadecimal Machine]

Yes I will never understand why Linux people want to deal with this shit all day:

As a Windows normie that sometimes or rarely uses linux, I'd like you to explain as slowly as possible why you want this stuff instead of something that

Forget giving any actual criticism or arguments. Using memes made by retards who can't figure shit out and simply want to shit on something really proves your point.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

This question has probably been asked hundreds of times before, but:
Is Emacs worth using? I'm currently using Vim.

I think the "Editor Wars" are pretty much a thing of the past. They're both great editors, available on virtually any system you care to use (even if it's headless) without the incredible bloat of most IDEs and much more capable in many ways, even achieving parity with said IDEs with extensions that have been developed over the years. I use Vim (and now Neovim after reading about it here and seeing a dev.to article that made me finally take the plunge). It is worth noting that the Vim community is much larger than the Emacs community, though the latter is hardly moribund. I'm not going to post my Vim or Neovim configurations here as they are on my GitHub where I use my real name but if you want to DM me I can probably assist you with whatever you would like configured in either of those two editors.

 

[Flatline]

Is Emacs worth using? I'm currently using Vim.

Absolutely. I was all-in on Vim until I switched to Emacs, and I never looked back. There is a learning curve, but, with daily practice, patience, and persistence, you'll get over the initial difficulties quickly. Like everything in life, you get out what you put in.

Emacs is an extensible editor, in every sense of the word, and that's one of its biggest draws. There are tens of thousands of possible plugins you could incorporate into your configuration, and you can program the editor to do nearly anything you need when handling text. Yes, it's overwhelming, but don't let that detract you.

Like Vim, your configuration file — init.el — is extremely important. You may be tempted to use preset configuration projects like Doom Emacs or Spacemacs; don't give in to temptation. Troubleshooting and debugging are more difficult because you're putting configuration maintenance into the hands of a group, and it could take days before someone fixes a bug you encountered. I used Doom Emacs for a while, and I can't tell you how many times an update pushed by the team prevented me from using the editor when I needed it. Another issue with those presets: Some require you to join a Discord server for help and information, which has its own problems.

Instead, write your own configuration from scratch, also known as a vanilla configuration, adding what you need incrementally. This guide is a good start. I also recommend you learn the vanilla keybindings instead of using a Vim-like keyset like evil-mode. It'll be painful, but you'll get use to it, and using Emacs will feel more natural.

 

[Eternal Spirit of Light]

Yes I will never understand why Linux people want to deal with this shit all day:

First gif is just a slow computer.
Second gif is just someone scrolling through what looks to be code.
I don't get it, how is this supposed to make fun of us?
>Command line interfaces are bad because..... because I'm a retard who can't use the terminal, OKAY?!

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Absolutely. I was all-in on Vim until I switched to Emacs, and I never looked back. There is a learning curve, but, with daily practice, patience, and persistence, you'll get over the initial difficulties quickly. Like everything in life, you get out what you put in.

Emacs is an extensible editor, in every sense of the word, and that's one of its biggest draws. There are tens of thousands of possible plugins you could incorporate into your configuration, and you can program the editor to do nearly anything you need when handling text. Yes, it's overwhelming, but don't let that detract you.

What would you say Emacs can do that Vim or Neovim just fundamentally can't?

 

[Betonhaus]

What would you say Emacs can do that Vim or Neovim just fundamentally can't?

Run DOS in an emulator?

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

What would you say Emacs can do that Vim or Neovim just fundamentally can't?

Read mail?

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Run DOS in an emulator?

How so?

Read mail?

There do appear to be some mail clients available for Vim or Neovim, maybe not as good as Gnus or the like. It seems a lot of Vim users like using Mutt (or Neomutt), which can be done through :terminal, as they have Vim-like keybindings. (I just use the Gmail web client.) In any case there doesn't seem to be any fundamental limitation especially after moving past Vimscript on what you're talking about.