Dragon Age: The Veilguard - A woke disaster? Yep!

[Sargon's wife's son]

Having make-believe romance and sexy times with sparkling brooding elves and Disney princes are more their thing, and the lack of fixed protagonist identity means that they can project all their autistic societal malfunctions onto their character.

When Alice does the sparkling Prince I would consider more of a dysfunctional emotionally damaged sarcastic moron with daddy issues still good character though.

I also think there should have been background specific companions and I don't know why you can't make yourself king of the dwarves the noble king Mary Alistair and make themselves queen but you can't make yourself king of the dwarves.

Also I never side with haramont simply due to the fact that he's too much of A coward to deal with bailin and literally throws you under the bus to save his own hide.

 

[Miller]

Mass Effect didn't have the same number of cat ladies, though, at least not to the same fervor as Dragon Age. I think it's because these ladies in general don't gravitate to the machismo of space opera. The most rabid fanbase is, I believe, the Tali-mancers, although Thane gets many cat ladies because he is smole, dying, UwU so precious.

Having make-believe romance and sexy times with sparkling brooding elves and Disney princes are more their thing, and the lack of fixed protagonist identity means that they can project all their autistic societal malfunctions onto their character.

At first no, but you can see how they slowly catered to the fujos and cat ladies in ME2 with Thane for example, and the focus on romances. It got worse in ME3 with Steve the faggot, Kaidan the whiny bitch and the latinx dudebro.

Wasn't Mass Effect 2 greatly streamlined and stripped of almost all it's RPG elements because some dipshit journalist couldn't figure out how to level up and gave the first game a very negative review.

Yep.

 

[p1138]

At first no, but you can see how they slowly catered to the fujos and cat ladies in ME2 with Thane for example, and the focus on romances. It got worse in ME3 with Steve the faggot, Kaidan the whiny bitch and the latinx dudebro.


Yep.
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And somehow after that, and the cuphead incident, Dean Takahashi still has a fucking career.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

I really hope he burns in hell for that.

 

[ZMOT]

Compared to Dragon Age, which is ludicrously feminist and has multiple cute boys for your City Elf princess to have sex with from the very start. It's no surprise Mass Effect is more male-oriented.

fantasy is always easier to get into, partially because it's adjacent to fairy tales (and I assume needs less imagination. knights and princesses are much simpler to grasp worldbuilding-wise for casuals).

 

[LazyLizard]

At first no, but you can see how they slowly catered to the fujos and cat ladies in ME2 with Thane for example, and the focus on romances. It got worse in ME3 with Steve the faggot, Kaidan the whiny bitch and the latinx dudebro.


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i never understood the Thane romance popularity, i'm a straight guy so obviously i didn't do it but why would a woman? he's an old dying lizard with the voice of a 30+ year smoker and talks to Shepard like he's talking to a child. is it all just daddy issues? or "he's gonna die anyway so i'm gonna be there for him anyway, all love no responsibility"?

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

At first no, but you can see how they slowly catered to the fujos and cat ladies in ME2 with Thane for example, and the focus on romances. It got worse in ME3 with Steve the faggot, Kaidan the whiny bitch and the latinx dudebro.


Yep.
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Man I really don't hate journalists enough.

 

[30+GameOvers]

The more I watch the NPCs and dialogue in this game, the more astounding it is to me. This is a game made by mentally ill, for mentally ill. You aren't in charge of a badass group of warriors, you hold therapy sessions for a bunch of children. You aren't a hero, you're part of the HR department. You can't even say any mean things or disapprove of anything your companions do, you have one singular personality in this game. I bet you the companions are dev self-inserts as well, that would explain the absolute trite personal conflicts and petty personality traits. These characters make Ryder and crew in Andromeda look well thought out and charismatic.
I would kill for early alpha builds of this game or some design documents, I would love to see what this game was originally about, and how it eventually evolved into this absolute mess.

 

[Gravityqueen4life]

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/corrine-busche-interview-rpgs-dragon-age-veilguard

“I’m an openly queer, trans woman,” Busche says. “It shaped everything about who I am, and it’s been the source of a lot of joy, a lot of difficulty, and perspective. For me personally, one of the greatest gifts about being trans is the amount of introspection it forces upon you. You spend a lot of time deeply examining who you are, and why that matters.”
“I think we should talk about it,” Busche says. “It’s hard. I grew up in a time when it really felt like we’re there to celebrate the games and to have these shared experiences, and that drive is still there. I think the discourse we see is the result of highly polarized times, and perhaps it’s a little naive. I know it’s hard when you have to ask the question, is this game for me? Do I belong here? And games are better for it when we can say yes, you do belong here.”

My "thats a man baby!" scan is off the chart!

 

[Ishtar]

DA very much appeals to a female audience. The PC is undefined and thus one can self project onto say a female Cousland or surana or Lavellan the way you can't really even for a female shepherd.

You've got Alistair and Zevran in DAO-the sexy ethnically ambiguous suave bottom and the corny but also hot and handsome virgin.

DAI-you've got Solas, tragic anti hero crossed with hot professor, Cullen*-(how is Cullen anything but woman bait, the game itself even lampshades this and I like Cullen), Josephine and Sera for lesbians.

DAV-Emmerich hot professor, Lucanis, Zevran redux.

DA2-broody elf Fenris, broody revolutionary possessed mage Anders, Merrill for the lesbians.

Even DA's female romances tend to be bisexual and lack any explicit invitation for solely male players-Leliana for example can be done by either, same with Merrill and Josephine-none of them really present themselves as for the "male gaze", only Morrigan and Isabela really, and Cassandra made a lot of people mad for being straight.

*The bit in the Winter Palace where Cullen has a gathering of women(and men) around him, and he's absolutely uncomfortable about it, like how is this not supposed to make women go wild? Handsome blonde hunk but also soft spoken, with hidden traumas and not any sort of fuckboy. (Cullen is also believe it or not, a virgin).

 

[Lord Lemurian]

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https://www.inverse.com/gaming/corrine-busche-interview-rpgs-dragon-age-veilguard

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My "thats a man baby!" scan is off the chart!

And the crazy thing is…..he STILL looks more feminine than 95% of other troons.

It’s like winning the special olympics.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Never trust a photo with a troon on it. You'd be surprised at the number of filters and whatever special effects they use. It's when you meet them in real life that you can judge for yourself whether they pass or not.

 

[regalterry]

Someone needs to do a medical checkup on Dean Takahashi, because I believe the guy is retarded in the clinical sense.

I'm not being hyperbolic, I genuinely believe there might be something wrong with his brain.

 

[Oliver Onions]

And the crazy thing is…..he STILL looks more feminine than 95% of other troons.

Yeah but the second you hear that voice...

Oh of course it's another lispy gay man.

Literally none of them pass.

 

[LazyLizard]

Yeah but the second you hear that voice...

Oh of course it's another lispy gay man.

Literally none of them pass.

"i loved DA origins, i loved the presentation, the roleplaying, the characters, the strategy so i decided to make the next installment in the series lack all of those"

 

[FatalTater]

Bellara's design bothers me.
She has a tiny neck and HUGE hair.
Hair is heavy!
How is she not in pain all the damn time?
Is her hair poof full of helium?

 

[Mukhrani]

Nudity in games is weird to me. It serves no real purpose beyond a very miniscule amount of immersion and you cant actually take advantage of it anyway or else you get an AO rating. So it's probably best to just not do it at all unless you're willing to commit to the bit.

The ONLY game where I've seen nudity open new avenues of gameplay is Rust. The randomly generated genital/breast, sex, and skin tone of your avatar allows for novel experiences like getting your head smashed in with a rock while being mocked for being a nigger with a tiny dick.

 

[Snekposter]

the latinx dudebro

He's from San Diego though, so you can't argue they did a terrible job establishing why he's a dudebro.

 

[Ishtar]

At first no, but you can see how they slowly catered to the fujos and cat ladies in ME2 with Thane for example, and the focus on romances. It got worse in ME3 with Steve the faggot, Kaidan the whiny bitch and the latinx dudebro.

James isn't a romance surprisingly. ME2 was going to have more gay stuff but Fox News backlash countermanded it.

BioWare has always been a super liberal company and has had or not had as much gays in any of their games as they felt they could get away with.

I'm not sure why people are surprised at this-if you're playing a BW game, it just comes with the territory.

 

[BlankSpaceBaby]

Mass Effect's male gay romances are generally terrible. The most fleshed out (ahem) is Kaidan, and that's if you headcanon that the first two games are all about these two not daring to reveal their attraction to each other; that or you mod the first game. That pilot one is barely worth nothing aside from the creepiness of Shepard hitting on him when he's still grieving.

It's ironically better in Mass Effect: Andromeda in the sense that the gay romances seem to be given as much "main screen time" as the straight ones, but that game is crippled by bad writing and everyone looking like they have fetal alcohol syndrome so eh, pass.