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Hunter Hearst Helmsley said:
They are bad at lots of stuff but pretty darn good at summarizing shit which is really all you need to cut a bill down to a more comprehensible size. It won't do all the work but it can make the job a lot easier.
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Pretty much this. AI is terrible at anything requiring complexity or nuance.

Directly parsing text for shit is something it is actually good at as it's just an algorithm processing regular expressions.

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But they're very good at summarizing, which is what was suggested. It can at least tell you where to look. People who think LLM's are useless are retarded and also people who think they're magic.
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LLMs are retarded for the thing they're supposed to replace. That being software engineering. They will hallucinate method calls and libraries that don't exist or haven't been used or updated in years. Or tell you that things can be called from a static context that actually can't be. For this they aren't that useful.
 
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Hunter Hearst Helmsley said:
For fourteen years plus one 14 year extension. No longer.

If Disney doesn’t want to agree to the original terms the founding fathers established then all the creators can starve to death on the street for all I care.

Internet culture moves at 1000 times the pace culture used to move yet our copyrights are extended out so that by the time a work enters the public domain it is totally useless. Culture moving faster means the terms should be shorter, not longer.

The public is supposed to get value back for what it contributes to protecting the copyright.

Creators can establish a new fair deal or they can starve on the street while I laugh at them. The pace of our cultural development is being massively retarded to protect a corporation obsessed with brainwashing children with progressive propaganda. This is not in our national interest at all.

Star Wars should already be in the public domain. We should not be beholden to Disney for it WHO ISN’T EVEN THE CREATOR. It should already be the legal property of the fans to do with as they will.
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PL, but fuck it, as someone with skin in the game on copyright, 14+ an optional 14 is the correct solution. Copyright is not a pension plan, and the Framers got it right when they provided for creatives to have exclusive rights to collect payment for their work for a set period of time, before allowing others to build on the work.

The attitude of "I DESERVE to get paid for the rest of my life because I added 1 word, to 1 line, in a song that had 22 seconds of it used in a movie in 1978" is the most boomer shit I can imagine.

Obviously anyone holding modern copyrights doesn't have an issue here, but under a 14+14 scenario, an artist has a book or song go viral 30 years after it was published, is going to experience a MASSIVE sales halo across the rest of their work. Recent example was Kate Bush when they used one of her songs in Stranger Things, introducing her to the Zoomers and Millennials.

Unlike the vast majority of her peers, Kate has held on to her rights, avoiding selling them off for drug money, child support, divorce settlements, back taxes or bad real estate investments. Running Up That Hill was the driver of interest, but she had multiple works shooting up all the tracking charts for MONTHS. Would love to know what her accounting looked like, but the point is that it wasn't just one, 30 year old song, it was everything she had done subsequently, and that is the correct way to think about copyright. The period allows you to build a brand, a body of work, and to finance more work, but it was never intended to be a forever cash spigot.
 
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Potatoherder said:
And you can bet once enough pork gets added back to please the democrats just enough of the 38 'principled' republicans will vote for it.
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Right on cue
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Never underestimate Republicans' ability to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Bindo said:
Unlike the vast majority of her peers, Kate has held on to her rights, avoiding selling them off for drug money, child support, divorce settlements, back taxes or bad real estate investments. Running Up That Hill was the driver of interest, but she had multiple works shooting up all the tracking charts for MONTHS. Would love to know what her accounting looked like, but the point is that it wasn't just one, 30 year old song, it was everything she had done subsequently, and that is the correct way to think about copyright. The period allows you to build a brand, a body of work, and to finance more work, but it was never intended to be a forever cash spigot.
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Exactly. People sell off their rights to shit, run out of cash, and then whine about it. The disadvantage of keeping everything is you have to do everything - marketing, distribution, PR, all of it - but it pays if you make it big because there are fewer rent seekers taking their piece of flesh.
 
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Puff said:
But they're very good at summarizing, which is what was suggested. It can at least tell you where to look. People who think LLM's are useless are retarded and also people who think they're magic.
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the problem is that the fundamental way all of these neural network based algorithms work is essentially entropy mining. it's not a summarization at all, they have no capacity to understand or summarize. it takes the question you ask, converts it into a set of tensor values representing abstract concepts and then does the math on all possible permutations of text that could also be within the set of abstract tensor values that make up your question, and then gives you the one that it has calculated to be the Most Correct. they're completely incapable of deterministic outputs - sure, you can give it a text and it will make 100 summaries of it - but how will you know if the summary it gave you is even correct, or how correct it is in comparison to all the other summaries it calculated? you can turn those into more tensors and train it to be usually more correct but you haven't solved the fundamental problem, you've just hedged your bets against an inevitable hallucination

it's an incredible piece of technology, it's absolutely revolutionary and it's already completely changed how we do certain tasks. it's single handedly ushered in a revolution in creativity and we're only at the start of what's possible. but that doesn't mean that it's capable of doing the things that people want it to do - it fundamentally isn't capable of understanding or summarizing text and never will be. it can give you a summary that will probably be correct. probably. 90% of the time. that's good enough for graduate school but it's not good enough to run a business.
 
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John Badman said:
It’s somehow the Republicans fault the government shut down even though Democrats still run the senate and executive until next year
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Well, it's the Republican's fault for not giving the Democrats each and every thing they want with a pretty little bow on it. Don't you know, that's how politics works. One side gets everything they want forever and the other side gets voted into power in the largest systemic political change of 100 years and nothing changes because that one side gets everything they want forever.
 
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Dammit Mandrake! said:
I am extremely pleased to see that I am finally getting the Robot Jox future that I was promised. Hyped for Putin's missile duel.
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Putin taunts US with ‘duel’ challenge using new hypersonic ballistic missile: ‘We’re ready for such an experiment’
"Robot Jox". Now that is some proper classic cinematic slop.
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Why is my Captain Planet discussion thread being derailed by AI and arguments about copyright
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Forget about Captain Planet, AI, or copyrights. We need more Robot Jox.
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big pauper said:
it's an incredible piece of technology, it's absolutely revolutionary and it's already completely changed how we do certain tasks. it's single handedly ushered in a revolution in creativity and we're only at the start of what's possible. but that doesn't mean that it's capable of doing the things that people want it to do - it fundamentally isn't capable of understanding or summarizing text and never will be. it can give you a summary that will probably be correct. probably. 90% of the time. that's good enough for graduate school but it's not good enough to run a business.
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It's good enough to give you a research target, if you recognize those limitations and work around them. It's VERY good at things like that.

"Summarize this legal bill, include references to lines and quotes you are summarizing" will get you exactly what you need to know when looking at a 1750 page bundle of pork and are looking for reasons to not pass it. "Appendix 26-B funds X. Here is a hyperlink. Appendix 76-C requires the administration to do Y (aka prohibits Trump from doing !Y), here is a hyperlink." Then you review it as a human and go "Oh, son of a bitch, it's accurate" and take action from there.
 
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