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What's your advice for sperg men to find decent women?

Is it even possible? Should one just find coping techniques instead?
Just disconnect from the Internet for a while and go talk to some women who share a common interest with you. Despite the many whores that fill the interest, and black pillers like rehab room and thinking ape will say, there are still many normal people out there you can talk to. What's important though is that you are willing to take the initiative however; things won't just come to you on a silver platter.
 
What's your advice for sperg men to find decent women?
1. Don't bombard her with your special interests upfront.

Yes, ancient Roman history and Captain Planet are very, very cool, but her eyes are gonna glaze over if you're just talking that shit at her on one of your earlier dates.

2. Use deodorant that also says "anti prespirant" that's the stuff that will keep you from sweating. The deodorant part just has the nice smell. You also need to block the sweat if you don't want to smell gross and stinky.

3. Shower. I don't care if the water triggers your sensory issues. Shower on a regular basis.

3. Keep your early dates to public places during daylight hours.

And finally, a way to screen out bad women:
Learn a practical skill such as home repair, car upkeep and repair, or cooking and cleaning (mandatory packaged deal - anyone can be a halfway decent cook. A man who can cook and clean up after himself and is self motivated to do so, is impressive.) And tell her you have this skill, if she laughs at you or starts making fun of you dump her on the spot. Good women value practical skills and hygenic men who can keep a clean home on their own. ( Yes, this really is important because even if she winds up doing most of the cleaning most of the time, when she's sick or on travel for work, it's not fair to her to let the mess pile up. You need to take care of it if you're her partner)

I will not be responding further to this post because I did not come here to have a conversation. I simply enjoy explaining things.
 
Just disconnect from the Internet for a while and go talk to some women who share a common interest with you.
That's true, but needs to be qualified.

Despite the many whores that fill the interest, and black pillers like rehab room and thinking ape will say, there are still many normal people out there you can talk to.
He's not a normal person. He has Autism Spectrum Disorder. His whole problem is that he doesn't know how to talk to normal men, let alone women. You're well meaning, but may have failed to understand the scope of the problem.

What's important though is that you are willing to take the initiative however; things won't just come to you on a silver platter.
This is true, obviously, but also dangerous to tell an autistic person if the statement is left unqualified.

Imagine a conversation as though it's driving. A non-autistic person is like someone in one of those cars that automatically detects the sides of the road and can notify you if you're getting too close. An autistic person doesn't have that. An autistic person has to err on the side of caution until he develops an intuitive sense of those boundaries.

Embarrassment is part of the learning process for anyone, but there's a difference between a fender-bender and getting T-boned at 90 miles-per-hour.

For context, remember that this is a man who just said he cut out every friend he knows IRL.

I'm not blackpilling—as I've said before, it's more than doable. It just takes a lot of study and practice in low-stakes environments. Women aren't scary or even particularly complicated, but they can get autistic people in a lot of trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/@hoe_math is good, too; especially the "zones" and "levels" stuff. I'd stay away from the shorter "dumb things tiktok thots say"-type videos; his big charts are where he shines. I'll say that it's not quite as bleak as he makes it look, though; the point is just to outline some of the processes. You'll even see plenty of reasonable women in his comments.
 
Legit, all of them either were completely alone or extremely desperate dudes in their early 20's with fat single mothers.
Two points. You will not find new friends looking for them. I have had my fair share of experiences with lonely men trying to befriend me purely because I smiled and offered small talk. I could not, however, continue the supposed friendship in good faith. There was very little for us to talk about, I found them uncomfortable and clingy, and real friends do not have 'mate dates'. A friend to all is a friend to none. Like romantic love, there is a exclusivity to friendship, 'you don't understand him the way I do'. Not everyone is meant to get along. People who are 'friends' to everyone are the human equivalent to doormats, nobody likes them. Like with salesmen, the unnaturally and overtly friendly leave people cold and questioning of motives.

CS Lewis wrote that the typical expression for the beginnings of a real friendship is, "What? You too? I thought I was the only one." Find a hobby, enjoy yourself, they you may meet someone. People, even the negative and miserable, gravitate towards positivity. When you have a hobby and common ground with another bloke, no matter how inane, then you have the bedrock to a lasting friendship.

As to my other point, don't worry too much about being alone. Much of our lives, especially as we age, are spent in solitude. That is good. It is how one grows and matures. Think of all the great art or innovations that exist because a man was forced to be alone. Think of Raymond Chandler writing The Big Sleep because he was unemployed, bored, and knowing he could write far better than any pulp writer. I am not suggesting you write a novel, but that you should rethink your loneliness. The time spent mulling on the need for a friend is time that could be spent listening to the world around you.

Our relationships between friends, between family, between lovers, are all important. They shape us and make life worth living. They provide comfort and certainty, that feeling that you and I are not so strange as to be totally rejected by the world. But we live for a need of balance. To be alone is not be feared but trusted as an aspect of the whole experience of man. We learn to love others, and then we learn to accept that we must eventually depart from them. Even if you marry a woman and you both happily live to a 100, one of you will die before the other does, and one will be alone. That is how it is. I refuse to see that as a tragedy. Isolation makes us question and ponder. It makes us see life from a different perspective, absent from others. It is futile to try and escape that, nor should escape be sought.

There is in stillness oft a magic power
To calm the breast, when struggling passions lower;
Touch'd by its influence, in the soul arise
Diviner feelings, kindred with the skies.
etc
 
1. Don't bombard her with your special interests upfront.

Yes, ancient Roman history and Captain Planet are very, very cool, but her eyes are gonna glaze over if you're just talking that shit at her on one of your earlier dates.

2. Use deodorant that also says "anti prespirant" that's the stuff that will keep you from sweating. The deodorant part just has the nice smell. You also need to block the sweat if you don't want to smell gross and stinky.

3. Shower. I don't care if the water triggers your sensory issues. Shower on a regular basis.

3. Keep your early dates to public places during daylight hours.

And finally, a way to screen out bad women:
Learn a practical skill such as home repair, car upkeep and repair, or cooking and cleaning (mandatory packaged deal - anyone can be a halfway decent cook. A man who can cook and clean up after himself and is self motivated to do so, is impressive.) And tell her you have this skill, if she laughs at you or starts making fun of you dump her on the spot. Good women value practical skills and hygenic men who can keep a clean home on their own. ( Yes, this really is important because even if she winds up doing most of the cleaning most of the time, when she's sick or on travel for work, it's not fair to her to let the mess pile up. You need to take care of it if you're her partner)

I will not be responding further to this post because I did not come here to have a conversation. I simply enjoy explaining things.
I'm good on the hygiene and associated stuff. I'm in decent physical shape and I do have some tradesman experience as well.

My main issue is just social bullshit but I probably am gonna have to brute force a lot of it.

I just wish I was around people I didn't have to mask constantly around. Shits draining as fuck.
 
I'm good on the hygiene and associated stuff. I'm in decent physical shape and I do have some tradesman experience as well.

My main issue is just social bullshit but I probably am gonna have to brute force a lot of it.

I just wish I was around people I didn't have to mask constantly around. Shits draining as fuck.
I mean hey, like @Hazel Motes said, finding a hobby you enjoy with a good community would be good. You won't have to mask around them if you're talking about stuff you genuinely enjoy.
 
I mean hey, like @Hazel Motes said, finding a hobby you enjoy with a good community would be good. You won't have to mask around them if you're talking about stuff you genuinely enjoy.
Yeah, it doesn't need prescience to know the answer to that: But the hobbys he actually enjoys don't help him getting a greater social circle, especially not one that involves a women.
 
I'm good on the hygiene and associated stuff. I'm in decent physical shape and I do have some tradesman experience as well.

My main issue is just social bullshit but I probably am gonna have to brute force a lot of it.

I just wish I was around people I didn't have to mask constantly around. Shits draining as fuck.
Jesus fucking Christ.

I hereby christen you ‘The Pickup Autist’.
 
Yeah, it doesn't need prescience to know the answer to that: But the hobbys he actually enjoys don't help him getting a greater social circle, especially not one that involves a women.
Part of it could even be that I live in an urban hellscape and the people here are stuck up egotistical cunts.

The kinda shit I'm into is more "rural American" hobbies and activities. Moving would likely help in a bunch of ways IMHO
 
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I just wish I was around people I didn't have to mask constantly around. Shits draining as fuck
Ah, that's an easy one then. You want to join either GamerGate adjacent or Christian furry discord/telegram groups, find the one guy without a fursona who's just there because he's buddies with one of the guys, and slide over to his server. It'll have marginally fewer furries (and be less gay), and they'll be used to autism.
 
This is the ideal male diet.
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Women do you not want you to know this.
 
Giving advice is worthless when you know nothing about the people you are giving it to. We have no idea if there’s some weird shit they do that they don’t think is weird but is off putting to everyone they encounter. Plus most people honestly don’t put in the work towards self improvement. If it doesn’t work the first time, every time, they immediately revert back to old habits. I see this often with people I coach at my workplace: they’ll ask me for advice, I give it to them, and when it doesn’t work perfectly the first time, they give up.

If you truly want to get better, find someone IRL who are doing the things you want to do, and reach out to them. Maybe they’ll ignore you or tell you to fuck off but you’ll be surprised how many of them want to impart their advice or at a minimum, talk about themselves.
 
Am sperg, have a wife. It's pretty important to not expose your spergery. Don't talk about video games or painting miniatures. Don't talk about politics. Act like you are confident that you are cool and awesome.
I would argue that the crucial factor is not what you talk about but rather how you talk about it. Obviously, there are certain topics that are outright tabbo, say, being an animefag or a ponyfag, but non-deviant behavior and interests need not be suppressed or hidden, only presented in an acceptable way. Neither antisemitism nor misogyny, for instance, will deter a woman if you're good looking and express yourself in a jovial and not-too-serious manner.

I will give an example of a trip to the zoo me and my girlfriend went on with another female friend of ours many years ago. We had a dog with us and our friend had two dogs of her own. The friend went and bought tickets for the entire group. When I saw she bought 3 tickets for dogs and 3 for humans, I asked my girlfriend if she could recognize what mistake our friend did. She did the math for the total price in her head and concluded that our friend has not made any mistakes in buying the tickets. The mistake was, of course, not buying 3 tickets for dogs, 1 human ticket and 2 tickets for women. 1694123617265.png My explanation was not met with outrage but only with a barrage of playful punches. You can explain why the holocaust never happened (but it should have) in a similar fashion. It's not the information that matters when talking to a woman, it's how you present it.
 
I would argue that the crucial factor is not what you talk about but rather how you talk about it.

If you're a sperg like me, either you are talking about your miniatures in a way that sends women running to the hills, or you are not talking about them. My wife eventually learned about my D&D habit and my paints, but by then it was too late. I made sure to figure out what kinds of things I could talk about that would keep her interest.

Pro tip: ask a woman about her family. Women love talking about their families. If she hates her family, run.
 
Infighting in this thread is not allowed. I have banned 3 accounts until next week. The one account created in November and has made about 42 posts per day since I've just banned for being a sock.

I'm really, really sick of reminding people of this so I'm not doing it anymore.
What did you get your wife and kids for Christmas this year?
 
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