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You do know that I agree with you, right?

What I was saying is that rich people like the CEO who got shot will close ranks around themselves and find new and innovative ways to make poors fight with each other. But go ahead and MATI, I guess.
They'll do that. The poor people are usually retarded and addicted to social media anyway.

See Occupy Wall Street and similar.
Socialized healthcare is not some magic bandaid solution to this issue. Under it you have just as much as chance to be fucked over by massive wait times, ESPECIALLY if you are living in a part of the country with less infrastructure. And then it once again comes down to paying a fortune for the private sector so you'd actually get treatment on time.

And then there's the cost. Modern Europe has no future, most of the money it spends is to make its welfare systems continue on. While hoping either Americans or immigration will fix any security ot social issues created.

Finally, the people mainly fucked over by this are older generations. Will people go to war for them after already committing social and economical suicide for them during COVID?
Yep. The NHS is the biggest budget item in the UK and medical care is one of the biggest items in the USA by far. More than defense actually.

The other thing is healthcare isn't a binary thing, you can't give someone $50 of healthcare and they become "$50 more healthy". Most healthcare spending is on stuff that could have been easily stopped or solved with early intervention but people ignore it until it's a big issue.

See Type 2 diabetes. There's a reason most insurance companies pay for annual bloodwork to look for indicators of that and cholesterol/liver/kidney issues. Because prevention is way better than treatment.


It seems like the main grievance the average person has against health insurers isn’t that they have to pay for insurance to get care, but that they aren’t getting what they paid for.
Yeah that's usually it. What people don't understand is that you can CALL AND ARGUE with the insurance company after the fact.

Too bad so many people are lazy and retarded.

That and they don't read the terms of the insurance product they bought. It's Premium PLUS the amount you pay before insurance kicks in.

Some dumbasses buy insurance that's ~$45 a month yet the actual insurance won't kick in until you pay $10,000.

I go to Drs. Semi regular so I don't get plans like that and don't do HMO.

When looking for jobs I ask about healthcare benefits.
If this is the angle you're taking you should be pleased with Rich-on-Rich violence.
I am when it's loser failsons/faildaughters killing each other and the like.


Not only is it not taboo, it's become a basic job benefit to have some private healthcare insurance.
I think the reason it's much cheaper than in America is because the truly horrendously expensive shit like cancer gets basically shoved to the public system. Private might pay for seeing a specialist sooner to get it diagnosed but the money for the chemo and radiation will be coming from the state.
And the NHS isn't terrible at treating cancer, once you actually have a legit diagnosis.
One thing I'll say about the American system though, due to the absolutely INSANE amount of money that's flowing through the entire messy system it also means it's the best place to do medical R&D in the world. If you have some ultra rare gigacancer or genetic disease chances are there's some speciality hospital in the US with some treatment option. Good luck paying for it though.
Yep.

US healthcare corps have INSANE profit margins of ~5%. Lol.

They charge people loads of cash to pay for the chronically ill people that were denied COVERAGE on the past. Now they have to be covered. Or people that get hard to treat diseases. Or that are super unlucky and get hit by a car and mangled and are in a coma for years.

So you're paying for them to be in the risk pool.

That and EoL care for people is INSANELY expensive. The last 12 months of life for most people are more expensive than the last couple of decades.

The US has essentially free healthcare for the very poor, poor children, veterans and the old. Medicaid, CHIP, and Medicare (and the VA) are ALL government run and funded systems.

Quality varies immensely depending on where you are.
how the fuck does a swiss miss end up part of an american housefire so dire you need an ambulance?
Because she's a lying cunt, obviously.
It is the same in the US. It is normal to wait hours in the er here.
Not at the ERs I got to.

Last time I was being seen in less than 15 minutes.

Y'all seem to be going to ERs that illegal aliens use as primary care facilities.
No, they're not. The first one (as you note) says no insurance. The second says total billed with no entry for insurance payment. The third shows $500 due out of a six figure bill. The fourth shows insurance paid it all and $0 due. So for the presumably insured (at least 3 & 4), looks like $500 due on hundreds of thousands of dollars billed. This shows the opposite of what you seem to be advocating.

$610k is outrageous. And it indicates that providers are charging insane prices. They know what insurance will cover bc they have negotiated rates - or know what will/not be covered. If they charge more than that they know going in that that the individual will be liable for the rest. So again not an insurance co issue, but perhaps a provider issue. And - $428k of the bill was for room and care. Absent complications requiring weeks in hospital, that's unconscionable.
Everyone forget that the hospital and doctor's will absolutely assfuck you with charges and bills and fees if they can.


You think most doctors would work for free or subsistence wages?

LMAO.
 
What people don't understand is that you can CALL AND ARGUE with the insurance company after the fact.
Wow I love paying for a service and then having to fight tooth and nail to prevent the shysters providing the service from jewing me out of the shit I paid for.

Really helps maintain a healthy, stress free body and mind when you're already sick and fucked up and now you also have to sit on hold for 2 hours and scream at some shithead in a suit and try to get him to change his mind about your cancer treatment not being medically necessary.
 
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Just like @Doctor of Autism showed, we've been seeing gayops already.
People just forget how naive everyone was back in 2009. Like in terms of average age on the Internet it was like being 13 vs being 30.

Now everyone is seeing through it. Reminds me of how people supported Israel over Hamas a decade ago when shit was happening over there and all throughout the 2000s online and now everyone sees through them.

The reason the gayops don't seem to be working is because theyre from an age when people didn't see through Jewish tricks so easily.

Now people can and do look up who's spreading the bullshit and it fails because it's always some healthcare CEOs son or whatever.
Not at the ERs I got to.

Last time I was being seen in less than 15 minutes.

Y'all seem to be going to ERs that illegal aliens use as primary care facilities.
Yeah it's called living in America you fucking kike. But honestly if all of the US lived in the same "I don't have illegals or niggers or financial woes" area of the country you do we'd all just be treating this guy like a nut. The same way that guy who attacked the IRS a decade ago was treated. Like yeah he's going about it the wrong way and he's cray. But he's fighting the good fight
 
Wow I love paying for a service and then having to fight tooth and nail to prevent the shysters providing the service from jewing me out of the shit I paid for.

Really helps maintain a healthy, stress free body and mind when you're already sick and fucked up and now you also have to sit on hold for 2 hours and scream at some shithead in a suit and try to get him to change his mind about your cancer treatment not being medically necessary.
It's actually usually an obese white or black woman you're talking to 😊

If you're not a prick they're usually extremely helpful.

Of course Porky Pig would suck up especially when he rubs shoulders with the political establishment

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Kyle is right. Plus he's not going on to be getting assaulted in prison for decades unlike some butthurt Italian will be 😎😅

I'm siding with the Kenosha kid on this one.
 
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hes right, luigi and him aren't similar. luigi is hot, based and doesn't look like fat Susan Mayer from Desperate Housewives.
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Lori says her friend lived with Luigi Mangione in a dorm in Hawaii. The girl herself met him once and says everyone called him “sweet”. If he ate someones ice cream in the dorm he would immediately buy a new one.

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hes right, luigi and him aren't similar. luigi is hot, based and doesn't look like fat Susan Mayer from Desperate Housewives.
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Lori says her friend lived with Luigi Mangione in a dorm in Hawaii. The girl herself met him once and says everyone called him “sweet”. If he ate someones ice cream in the dorm he would immediately buy a new one.

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A rare fujoushi W. Luigi really does bring us all together. :heart-full:
 
Kyle is right. Plus he's not going on to be getting assaulted in prison for decades unlike some butthurt Italian will be 😎😅

I'm siding with the Kenosha kid on this one.
Of course Kyle is right to you, he just killed dumbass poor people attacking him in a state he got his mommy to drive him to.

If Kyle shot at any rich person who killed babies but it's okay cause they had the paperwork to do it, you'll clutch your pearls with how much golden cock is in your mouth.
 
Wait, @wtfNeedSignUp is an Israeli?
His 6 million posts in the Israel Palestine thread cheerleading the IDF didn't tip you off?

Of course Kyle is right to you, he just killed dumbass poor people attacking him in a state he got his mommy to drive him to.
Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong. Self defense against armed nutbars.

Luigi did nothing* wrong either.
 
His 6 million posts in the Israel Palestine thread cheerleading the IDF didn't tip you off?


Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong. Self defense against armed nutbars.

Luigi did nothing* wrong either.
I don't read anything online related to Israel/Palestine as even on Kiwifarms it'll be infested with Jews and their Zionist golem slaves. Given how despised Israel is currently by the general public worldwide Israel's bot army has gone full force in spreading hasbara. The Internet really is just a mass disinformation machine and is extremely prone to social engineering efforts.

Anyways, all Israelis should be IP banned from all Internet sites ASAP for this reason.

Edit: I also put him on ignore for being retarded in some other thread so I didn't see his posts until Doctor of Autism outed him as a Jew.
 
Of course Kyle is right to you, he just killed dumbass poor people attacking him in a state he got his mommy to drive him to.

If Kyle shot at any rich person who killed babies but it's okay cause they had the paperwork to do it, you'll clutch your pearls with how much golden cock is in your mouth.
Lol look at you simping for a pedophile, a wife beater and a all around shitbag that Kyle ventilated.

Tells me all I need to know
 
I don't read anything online related to Israel/Palestine as even on Kiwifarms it'll be infested with Jews and their Zionist golem slaves. Given how despised Israel is currently by the general public worldwide Israel's bot army has gone full force in spreading hasbara. The Internet really is just a mass disinformation machine and is extremely prone to social engineering efforts.

Anyways, all Israelis should be IP banned from all Internet sites ASAP for this reason.

Edit: I also put him on ignore for being retarded in some other thread so I didn't see his posts until Doctor of Autism outed him as a Jew.
"Oh no, it's an Israeli with his own opinion! Need to ban him so we'll be able to continue repeating the same opinions!".

Anyways the debate with @LORD IMPERATOR (like usual) just gets an infinite loop. Like with the Brit thread, if you want your violent revolution then do something about it rather than expect someone else to do the dirty work.
 
Lol look at you simping for a pedophile, a wife beater and a all around shitbag that Kyle ventilated.

Tells me all I need to know
I supported Rittenhouse, and still do as recently as this thread, because strictly speaking Kyle's shooting was self-defense. The gun never "crossed state lines" or whatever technicality gunshy hippies were hoping to catch him on, and while Kyle put himself in a bad situation, he wouldn't have fired a single shot if Rosenbaum didn't threaten to take his gun and then charge at him. However, it is a real bad look to not only support vigilante justice based on the shootees' pasts (which Kyle would not have known at the time), but to also get two of their pasts wrong. I support Kyle because I'm ideologically consistent about gun rights and self-defense, you support Kyle because you think your whole life's a fucking team sport.

Another way to look at this, if you want to brag about and compare acts of vigilante justice: Kyle's vigilantism was blind, but managed to kill a child molester, killed a skateborder with psych issues that threatened his own family, and vaporized the bicep of an ex-con that was illegally carrying a firearm. Luigi's vigilantism was direct and targeted, intentionally took out a scumbag that was responsible for rejecting one-in-three claims that were filed with his company for the sake of lining his pockets. This is double the national average claim denial rate and resulted in countless deaths. If we're justifying the shootings by who was shot and the foresight of the shooter, I gotta say I prefer our Italian Stallion here.
 
Can someone explain why bro is eligible for death penalty considering he killed only 1 person?

I don't find this to be terribly unusual.

Yeah that's usually it. What people don't understand is that you can CALL AND ARGUE with the insurance company after the fact.

NO, fuck that. You pay for a service, you get the service, no arguing, no spending hours on the phone, no appealing, none of it. That's not being fucking lazy that's getting what you're fucking owed. That's how it should be, and I don't care about any rationalizations or whataboutism on profit margins. You should never have to argue with your shyster insurance company for a claim. Oh, the nogs and illegals fleece the system? Too fucking bad, maybe lobby for some enforcement of existing laws instead of the ability to fuck over paying American customers.

I pay hundreds of dollars per month and maybe use my insurance for something that isn't just a regular visit once every two years if you average it all out, my family is healthy and dilligent and if I have to argue for something or appeal I am immediately going to be livid and it is 100% justifiable. Back of the envelope, I've paid about $35,000 in health insurance premiums in the 12 years I have had insurance. No pre-existing condtions, no being fat, no smoking, none of it. I'm the textbook low-payout customer. First just me, then my wife and I, then our children. I shouldn't have to argue for one red cent to be covered. Last claim I made was dental, but it was the same. I bit down on a stray piece of bone in some meat and cracked a piece off a molar. I needed a crown. My dentist had to "resubmit" TWICE for my insurance to cover it. That's fucking crap. My dental records show I take perfect care of my teeth and have no other dental work. I have better teeth than the dentist himself and probably the CEO of the insurance company, there is no justifiable reason to do anything but pay up immediately.
 
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