Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

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Read the replies Marge, and remember family is serious, and not Internet gossip. Reject the extreme views and look after your loved ones, especially your child which should grow with two parents in a stable household. You've chosen the wrong "friends" out of a misguided feminist past that you cling to, but you did let go of other progressive idiocy not long ago. Nobody should expect you to be an obedient housewife. You'll figure it out, I trust you.
Keep safe out there and don't get brain poisoned by Internet incels that only feed on hatred.
 
Keep safe out there and don't get brain poisoned by Internet incels that only feed on hatred.
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Girl. This is, this honestly hurts to read. I feel for you, I really fucking do, but this is not the way to help yourself or your baby.

You are either drinking right now, or spiraling, and neither is good for you. Go make a cup of tea or something. Give yourself twenty minutes to empty your mind.

Once the Christmas holidays are over, go and get yourself a good therapist. A good one. Not some fucking yes-man, a good one who is prepared to make you answer the question of why you are subjugating yourself to this treatment. In due course you will also want to do a preliminary consultation with a lawyer, to see where you stand financially and how you would likely be positioned in the event of divorce.

You can't go on like this, and venting or whatever the fuck isn't going to help. If you are looking for a vibe check, this is the vibe check, we've all told you he sounds like a cunt. Not knowing how much he earns is the most crimson of flags. There is no good reason, ever, for you not to know that.

Tea. Then therapist. A new one, because your existing one isn't moving the needle on where you are emotionally or psychologically stuck right now.
 
@Stan obviously loves her kid which is nice but she's at the very least clearly got a communication problem, she wouldn't be coming to here of all places to vent otherwise. Divorce arc in the new year likely I reckon, maybe not so soon because of young child + winter cocooning phenomena but with the issues described (proto-violence/emotional distance + culture clash) I think the only glue holding the relationship together is the child which spells a doomed partnership.
Marge knows I adopted her as my personal lolcow. You have nothing to worry about.
Don't take this the wrong way man but the simping seems out of character, are you perhaps holding a torch?
 
The knowledge that divorces are always a rift in your child's life that hurts them, compared to your parents growing up and learning to get along. The purpose and vow-greement that you're in this for keeps. IMO if you divorce you're transferring relationship stress and its politics onto your kids to relieve your own issues.

I think that would be reasonably difficult to do; I got a knife. I would not lay down and let Alex kill me for tax reasons or whatever. I doubt that he would be up to that no matter the potential reward. He's already a young lord, to quote what his chinese worker bees call him.
Hi, I disagree on a lot of what you said.
In previous posts here, I have mentioned that my parents got divorced when me and my siblings were young. I'm the oldest and I was around preschool age for context purposes. My parents were young and were best friends, remained friends after their divorce and only did so because it was starting to affect us. They both remarried different people and one household was abusive and neglectful so I can speak on both aspects. I'm telling you right now, your child being in an abusive household, no matter how old she is, fucks her up for the rest of her life. If you don't stop it now, imagine what he will do to her if you don't stop it while the warning signs are there. There are consequences to what he's doing and what you're doing, even at this stage. It can lead to an unhealthy attachment to you or him. Children see what happens around them and can and will do what they see. I know you're in a difficult situation but think of what it's doing to who you clearly care about. Hell, how do you know he isn't already taking anything out on her? He's clearly shown he's more than capable of violence. Better yet, think of the men your little girl is going to meet in the future. She's vulnerable now and she's especially going to be when she's going to start school. Do you know how unloved she'll feel when she sees how other families are? How desperate for love and attention she might become?

what compromise is there in neglect and violent outbursts? running defense for an abusive man you don't even know.


wrong and wrong. neglecting the child, the dog, and the household in general is not minor, and every human being 'flawed' does not allow a husband free reign to break furniture like a retarded ape around a child.
Man, what is even going on in this thread? Tried to read it over through the highlights but I'm genuinely confused on what's going on.
 
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Janitorial merging from moid hate to lolcow thread.
Tragic that you need a male to remove that confusion, but I am happy to oblige regardless.
Meant it in a general sense rather than specifically towards men but I'll take up the offer. Mind giving a summary?
 
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Read the replies Marge, and remember family is serious, and not Internet gossip. Reject the extreme views and look after your loved ones, especially your child which should grow with two parents in a stable household. You've chosen the wrong "friends" out of a misguided feminist past that you cling to, but you did let go of other progressive idiocy not long ago. Nobody should expect you to be an obedient housewife. You'll figure it out, I trust you.
Keep safe out there and don't get brain poisoned by Internet incels that only feed on hatred.
Why should she listen to you? You don't care about her. You laugh at her in private (even when no one else is laughing), despite these periodic "you're smart" or "we talk about important things" or "I trust you" and "stay safe" comments. At one point I thought, based on your comments, that you had a nice, human conception of her. But you're right; you just see her as a cow-object, your "personal lolcow." Which, given how intensely you've interacted with her, is pretty shitty. She may not care, and if not, that reflects on both of you, but especially on you.

Marge is a rather unique case.
She started as a foaming at the mouth progressive libtard, evolved into a Trump voter (lmao), cryptomining enthusiast.
Bible thumping next?
 
Marge is a rather unique case.
She started as a foaming at the mouth progressive libtard, evolved into a Trump voter (lmao), cryptomining enthusiast.
Bible thumping next?
Lol. Lmao even.
She's pretty close to bible thumping already with the Jesus stuff and church LARPing. Pretty sure I've seen her quote scripture here too.
I eagerly await another attempt at Judaism. That should be a pretty funny arc.
Which, given how intensely you've interacted with her, is pretty shitty. She may not care, and if not, that reflects on both of you, but especially on you.
Lol who gives a fuck?
Do you know what site you're on?
Calm down Horace.

If Stan wants to trauma dump despite being given multiple warnings, then who gives a shit about her or the motivations of the people giving her advice. The only difference between Stan and someone like Bossman or Rackets is that she posts here.
She's a lolcow because she refuses to learn from her behavior and won't listen to people who warn her or give her advice.
So none of this matters at all.
May as well sit back and milk her.

The whole point of this site is to laugh at people like her and she is cognizant of this fact. It's actually very funny - she's a self aware cow that still can't stop behaving like a maniac.

Besides, if you dumb troglodytes haven't figured this out yet:
She loves this attention.
She drops these bizarre "WTF" moments of her personal life every time she is bored or needs an ego boost.
Only someone truly fucking insane would announce a miscarriage to the Kiwifarms.

All that being said, I think you should divorce your husband @Stan.
Smash the patriarchy or whatever.
 
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WWYD? How do I train him to do more childcare and chores and shit when he knows any chore he derelicts will be taken over by me before it reaches a critical mass?
He won’t change, and nothing you do will make him clean the sink.
however much you like your mil, be aware that her loyalty will be to him. Complain about his behaviour by all means, but don’t hint you’ll leave him.
I have spent time in expat circles and I have seen this play out multiple times. Cross cultural marriages are difficult. I have seen behaviour you wouldn’t believe.
And I don’t want to upset you, but I would quietly put your daughter’s passport somewhere he can’t find it. If you do go the divorce route, he needs to have no inkling of it until all ducks are in a row he needs to be unable to move money and more importantly your daughter out of the country.
Then do what @isalaide said. Do nothing in haste, do not do joint therapy with an abusive man, and make sure you and the kid are safe.
 
Why should she listen to you? You don't care about her. You laugh at her in private (even when no one else is laughing), despite these periodic "you're smart" or "we talk about important things" or "I trust you" and "stay safe" comments. At one point I thought, based on your comments, that you had a nice, human conception of her. But you're right; you just see her as a cow-object, your "personal lolcow." Which, given how intensely you've interacted with her, is pretty shitty. She may not care, and if not, that reflects on both of you, but especially on you.
no1curr missie
 
Let's get the OP for this one remade.
She's escalated from eating kosher ass to carrying a shiv around the house in case chicom husbando goes all xinhai on her it's byond worthy of an update.

Not that I give a toss about basket cases, but for what it's worth my prime suggestion atop of getting her shit together in general would to be talk to the priest she presumably works for being a church girlie and all, Episcopalian right? Those guys are totally bent-over when it comes to whamens wrongs he's a natural ally. Get the choir and the wardens in line too while you're at it, husbando is a chinky princeling he's not gonna respond well to gentle coaxing but he'll respond excellently to a good old public shaming I reckon.
Best case scenario is you whip him into shape and get some breathing room to not need the booze so often, other best case is we get a thread in LLP maybe.
 
And I don’t want to upset you, but I would quietly put your daughter’s passport somewhere he can’t find it. If you do go the divorce route, he needs to have no inkling of it until all ducks are in a row he needs to be unable to move money and more importantly your daughter out of the country.
You ought to have done this already, but do this today. Literally out of the house. ideally in the hands of your lawyer. Not your shared lawyer, a lawyer YOU instruct. A safety deposit box and give the location of it to someone you trust as a fall back in case you die. Note: the someone you trust better be someone who does not simp for him, so forget your MIL. Do not tell him you have done this.

If he takes that baby to China you will never ever get her back. Even in countries that respect the Hague conventions, getting a kid returned from a foreign jurisdiction where they are residing with a native, legal, parent, is nearly fucking impossible. China, don't make me fucking laugh. You will never see your daughter again if he puts her on a fucking plane to Shanghai or wherever the fuck he is from, and the only way you can prevent that is hiding her fucking passport.

Do not ever, ever, make the mistake of thinking 'he wouldn't do that'. Every parent whose kids are now vanished abroad chose to believe the other parent wasn't capable of that, and look how that worked out for them.

This is the one thing you can do, today, to protect your daughter's future. Get that passport, pretend you are going shopping or whatever, and get that fucking passport secured offsite.
 
First off I want to thank everyone for their replies and input. It's helpful even if it's a bit hard to hear.

Especially if he's from Chongqing there's literally no excuse for any of this, Sichuan is literally famous for understanding that there is an expectation to take care of and listen to your wife.
He's from Beijing. But I do think plenty of Beijingers get how to do this right, because his parents seem to. When we got together, it was pretty evident that he strongly preferred I move to Boston than him move to NYC. He had real estate investments going on in Boston, whereas I was at a good "stopping point" for NYC residence, since I didn't own my apt, I rented it, and was close to finishing a grad program. Unfortunately I think it's become an unfortunate dynamic where he knows I'm willing to sacrifice things that are important to me if it's for the benefit of the family as a whole.
You don't "know" that divorce is "always" a rift that hurts them.
I think it mostly is, and that parents need to be basically committing child abuse and neglect for divorce to seem preferable to the involved kids.
Past a certain point, there is no "learning to getting along", you're just a slave to a manchild growing older. I am a child of divorce, and I will tell you flatly: I'm glad my mother did it. It's not out of hatred towards my father, but because she - and my brother and I - would have wound up a lot worse had they remained together. In order for her to be where she needed to be, it meant a divorce. And I never faulted her for it, never felt anger.
I am also a child of divorce and I remember very often thinking to myself circa 9 to 16 years "why can't these people stop fighting and get along, instead of perpetually making me and Delia carry their water, burdening us with a shared custody agreement that makes us move house from his to hers every bloody week, and getting sidetracked with relationship drama more suited to kids our age than them?"

My parents are some of the most childish people. I can recognize that some partnerships are truly irreconcilable, that one's husband could be really that bad, so that a divorce isn't just about what your parents want, but about safety or getting yourself and family away from a person who's too fucked up to be a partner. My parents' divorce wasn't like that. They just liked to get drunk and snipe at each other over their various shortcomings. I remember they once got into it over who filled up the Brita pitcher last. I thought that was unbelievable at like age 9. If they had the maturity to act like the adults they are, they'd have been able to stay together, and I'm equally angry at both of them for not being able to get it together.

And I don't think my relationship is so unsalvageable either. It's more to do with gainsaying someone who I know loves me and who wants what's best for all of us, but defaults to a leadership position because he doesn't think anyone else can do it. It further challenges our relationship that he's really wise and correct most of the time, so that he expects you to take his side and thinks you're making a mistake if you don't. And that is pretty much how men develop hubris and ego IMO.

THIS is a dynamic you think is healthy and sustainable?

You're either bullshitting/exaggerating or enabling and coping hard.
I am exaggerating. Alex may not think much of feminism, but he's not into domestics, either. We share that and tend to avoid open conflict. I would rather bitch about him to 3rd parties than have a difficult conversation about how I think he prioritizes his time, or how he parents, or the way he sometimes treats his mom like a live-in au pair. That's a flaw and I'll own it.

"Use your wiles" :story: :story: :story: :story: :story:
Doesn't matter how many whipped cream maraschino cherries ice cube blowjobs you give him, he will never change because you've already "trained" him. This is it.
Ya that's the sticky wicket. How do you persuade a man who is accustomed to taking your input as a request to take your demands and needs seriously? So far the answer I got from the community to DTMFA which seems like overkill.

Today at least when Tilly kept coming to find me during the little break I wanted, I took her back downstairs and told Alex "I asked you to hold Tilly for twenty minutes. Stop making me run her back down here." Also when they kicked Tilly out of daycare earlier today for a rash and Alex asked if I could take her to be seen to I said, "it's Dec. 23rd, and I work for a church. I cannot take the time to take her to the urgent care." and so he got her and took her there~! I feel like Smeagol learning to repel Gollum.

This is at least a little bit of an improvement.
Not that I give a toss about basket cases, but for what it's worth my prime suggestion atop of getting her shit together in general would to be talk to the priest she presumably works for being a church girlie and all, Episcopalian right?
I actually asked the Rector about this earlier today and she had some good advice. She agreed with you guys that she wouldn't tolerate this behavior in a spouse, but she also helped me come up with a way of setting some boundaries about the childcare.
 
@Stan have you considered a shock collar and giving him a little zap every time he's being a lazy piece of shit? And maybe a cattle prod for when he has a furniture breaking mantrum. I think that he might be a corporeal punishment kind of learner like many moids. This is why they used to hit them with sticks in schools back in the days before schools got all weak and feminized and well we all know that's not working out so well for the boys. I'm just saying a punishment/reward system might help more than consistently trying to communicate your wants and needs to him which he obviously doesn't care about. Every time he is a good boy he gets a little piece of chocolate and every time he lets the baby escape up the stairs he gets a little shock.

Report back how it goes!
 
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