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[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Multiple drones affect aircraft takeoffs and landings at Iwakuni Kintaikyo Airport in Yamaguchi, Japan (archived moon runes)

On the night of the 22nd, Iwakuni Kintaibashi Airport, which is shared by the U.S. military and civilian government in Iwakuni City, Yamaguchi Prefecture, received a notification that "multiple drones have entered," and the runway was temporarily unusable. As a result, the arrival of the All Nippon Airways aircraft heading to the airport was delayed by about 3 hours.

According to All Nippon Airways, etc., at around 7 p.m. on the 22nd, the office of the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism contacted ANA that "multiple drones are entering" at Iwakuni Kintaibashi Airport, which is shared by the US military and civilian citizens in Iwakuni City, and the runway was temporarily unusable.

Ask a Pol: US House Oversight Chair Comer says a Select UAP Committee “is being discussed” (archive) (Reddit)

Geoff Cruickshank follows up on Liberation Times piece with Newspaper clipping from 1974; "Ghost Ships" at a Missile base

Spoiler

 

[GradeAGobbleDeeGook]

I love it, something about how earnestly these guys spout this stuff cracks me up. even their evil NWO conspiracies I saw too have this same cornball energy to it. It's all from every side essentially the scariest thing ever because of the implications of any of it but they spout it coming across like someone who probably thinks dragons exist and are hidden somewhere even though they're talking about globalist magical love futures or evil devil monsters from space who have been puppeteering us and were the demons from the bible.

i love them too, they can get pretty creative with how many crazy theories they can stack ontop of eachother to believe all at once
these however are my favourite type of skitzo post
the ones where they are operating under the assumption that disclosure is just 1 step away, or that disclosure is already here

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1hk89j9/its_going_to_be_really_weird/

https://archive.md/9TRwo

any kind of disagreement with this is met with sharp reprisals
the dreaded downdoot



and then over in the Land of Cope

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

the ones where they are operating under the assumption that disclosure is just 1 step away, or that disclosure is already here

We are seven years into a #DisclosureProcess that started on December 16, 2017.

 

[Omori Boy]

This is probably late and gay, but I’m curious how America’s stockpiles of weapons are. When our gov feeds the beast of other wars by sending tech to Ukraine, Israel, etc., do we reach a point where that is impacting our own defensive capabilities?

All the shit that is being sent over right now is stuff from the 90's/early-2000's. Even stuff like the ATACMS is old. We don't send them good stuff like F-35's or F-15's, our Abram's have been drone resistant since the mid-2000's because of TUSK(anti-RPG, but works on drones too). Even when you get to ICBM's and stuff you can find tests and exercises on Youtube. That's how innocuous that stuff is for. What does show it's strength is that the US doesn't export the F-22 to any other country, despite having been in service for almost 20 years now.

Orb interacting with mystery drone in London December 21, 2024​

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Pure, unadulterated mental retardation.

 

[fukefacedog]

Every Chinese person I know uses real estate as an investment. Real estate and precious metals are two of the only worthwhile investments one can make in China: you'll have people mortgaging a condo before the thing is even built. When they come here, they continue to purchase real estate, because they look at it as a safe, profitable investment.

None of these 'Chinese-owned farms' has a single Chinese person on it. They're all leased out to the farmers who actually work the land.

The time of Chinese people owning anything is gone.

The CCP can and will take ownership and control of anything Chinese people own. They can take control of any company or piece of land that Chinese people have, and that extends into our Nations as well, which is enforced by their Secret Police Stations:


All they have to do is threaten someone's family members and they can do whatever they want with that farmland.

The entire Commonwealth and the United States immediately needs to wake up to this reality and immediately start tracking and questioning every single one of these people whether they are here legally or not.

They are studying our critical infrastructure as we speak and are planning to attack it, and the window of opportunity to act is quickly closing.

The CCP wants us all dead.

They want to replace all European people on this continent with "Han" Chinese.

They have literally said this.

 

[The Gene Genie]

The time of Chinese people owning anything is gone.

The CCP can and will take ownership and control of anything Chinese people own. They can take control of any company or piece of land that Chinese people have, and that extends into our Nations as well, which is enforced by their Secret Police Stations:
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All they have to do is threaten someone's family members and they can do whatever they want with that farmland.

The entire Commonwealth and the United States immediately needs to wake up to this reality and immediately start tracking and questioning every single one of these people whether they are here legally or not.

They are studying our critical infrastructure as we speak and are planning to attack it, and the window of opportunity to act is quickly closing.

The CCP wants us all dead.

They want to replace all European people on this continent with "Han" Chinese.

They have literally said this.

I don't think any of this is related to this phenomena and would probably be better suited for another thread. I know this is your thread, but at the moment what we have doesn't suggest that this is at all related to the Chinese or an operation to take down our infrastructure. I could be wrong, and maybe (hopefully not) I will be proven wrong when they use their drones to swarm attack the entire country, but frankly at the moment it doesn't seem logical. If it were that simple, they would've taken them down by now. They have access to satellites that can pinpoint this shit. They could theoretically see them taking off and track them in real time. They've had over a month for this specific flap alone to collate data and figure out the consistencies and map out where they could come from. That's just on basics, not including the satellite imagery that they have access to via SBIRS.

The drones at least, in my view, are 100% ours. As for what they're doing, I believe personally they're watching for actual UFO/UAPs that are flying around, and the drones provide a two-birds-one-stone to the whole thing (You get to surveil them without the logistics and manpower required for constant aircraft flights, and you get a nice cover wrapped in a bow to deflect from the actual phenomena). I do not believe it's the Chinese.

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

The time of Chinese people owning anything is gone.

Chinese with a city hukou, yes, I would agree - city-dwellers technically sign a 99-year lease for any property that they purchase. Chinese with a rural hukou, no. Rural Chinese legally pass their land off to their children or next of kin. There's been no change to this since Xi has come to power that I'm aware of. The only way you can lose your land is through a process similar to imminent domain in the United States.

Having been the victim of the imminent domain process in the United States, I can assure you that your land rights are no better off than any other hillbilly living in China.

All they have to do is threaten someone's family members and they can do whatever they want with that farmland.

These farms are leased out to American farmers who would likely say something if they noticed a group of random Chinese men launching massive drones from their farm.

The entire Commonwealth and the United States immediately needs to wake up to this reality and immediately start tracking and questioning every single one of these people whether they are here legally or not.

If they're already here legally, they've already been questioned about ties to the CCP. I should know; the general timeframe for USCIS to approve a Green Card is about 1.5 years - not including the conditional status which takes who-knows-how-long right now.

The ones here illegally from hopping the border should just be deported.

They are studying our critical infrastructure as we speak and are planning to attack it, and the window of opportunity to act is quickly closing.

The CCP wants us all dead.

They want to replace all European people on this continent with "Han" Chinese.

They have literally said this.

I have no doubts Chinese intelligence agencies have plans to disable American infrastructure (and vice versa), but I do have doubts they're actively attempting to permanently shut the power off right now.

I'm curious to know how this 'great Han replacement theory' is going to work out when China's own demographics are spiraling downward. I'd be very interested in seeing this 'literal' quote you've got.

In the meanwhile, this is an extremely informative and interesting thread. I think you've put a lot of time and devotion into the study of UAPs and you've done a lot of homework on your own regarding these drone sightings in New Jersey and across the US. That being said, you don't know very much about China, the people of China, or how the government in China operates.

 

[fukefacedog]

you don't know very much about China, the people of China, or how the government in China operates.

I don't.

China's own demographics are spiraling downward

That's why they have to do it now. Projections are that China could lose two-thirds of its population this century.

I'd be very interested in seeing this 'literal' quote you've got.

A quarter century ago, General Chi Haotian, China’s defense minister and vice chairman of the Communist Party’s Central Military Commission, reportedly gave a secret speech advocating the extermination of Americans. His plan was to use disease to clear out the hills, plains, and valleys of North America so that the Chinese people could settle in the vast spaces left uninhabited. “It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans,” he said. “But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century, a century in which the Communist Party leads the world.”

https://www.chinaaffairs.org/gb/detail.asp?id=99315

China’s National Defense University, in the 2017 edition of the authoritative Science of Military Strategy, mentioned a new kind of biological warfare of “specific ethnic genetic attacks.”

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/08/chinas-military-pursuing-biotech/159167/

American officials are concerned that China has been experimenting with such germ weapons, as Bill Gertz of the Washington Times has reported. Beijing’s relentless efforts to collect genetic profiles of foreigners while preventing the transfer from China of the profiles of Chinese are indications of sinister intentions.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/14/china-deception-fuels-fears-biological-weapons-eth/

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How many Westerners sent their DNA to China this decade?

 

[Omori Boy]

I don't.

I really, really, really think it's best for your mental health if you took a break. Please stop worrying about supposed wide ranging spec-ops done by a foreign power over some reason when you don't really have an understanding of those people and their power.

 

[The Gene Genie]

I don't.

I think you're drawing connections on this phenomena that simply aren't there. If these drones were foreign actors they would have been triangulated by now. The frequency of which they've been flying and taking off, the brazenness by how they operate, and the methodical flight patterns that they've been observed conducting simply doesn't track if this was some kind of stealth mission. In fact I'd go further and say, logically, if the Chinese were to conduct a strike on our infrastructure they wouldn't be flying drones around suburbia for everyone to see. They would simply wait for the greenlight and then swarm them. The Government, no matter what they say, has the ability to track these things. They have satellites that can read what you've pulled up on your phone. It is simply impossible for them to not know what these things are and impossible for them not to track them to the origin and launch point.

I think you're getting worried over something that simply isn't happening. I'm not disputing the level of penetration China has done to this country and Government on all levels, but on this specific phenomenon I simply do not think it's the Chinese. I literally do believe it's aliens, combined with US Government drones. It is, genuinely, more plausible than hundreds (if not thousands?) of Chinese drones flying over hotspots in the country without anyone even noticing an operator or a launching point.

 

[Henry V]

I might get flak for this, but I believe this is largely just mass hysteria that started with an actual sighting of some UAP or government aircraft, there are countless examples of ignorant people posting videos of stars, planets, and planes. One of my favorite hobbies is astrophotography, I have a sizeable telescope that I use to take photographs and observe various things.

You can point your telescope at any point in the sky, and if you wait several minutes I guarantee you'll see some manmade satellite stream through your FOV, especially Starlink constellations, this poses a lot of issues for ground-based observatories and lowly astrophotographers like me, as the constant satellite prevalence creates interference, fucking up your data. But the fact that I can spot a random satellite on any given night is crazy. To the untrained eye, assuming you look long enough, most of what you see at night will seem like aliens or government drones.

I don't believe in reactionary, sensationalized reporting. I prefer hard video and photo evidence. Take the Chinese spy balloon as an example: people immediately noticed and began documenting it. There were no contradictory reports and no excessive hysteria—just consistent observations. The only thing that stays constant is the government's incompetence.

Of the reports that are valid and not stars, plants, and planes. The government either knows this is its own stuff or believes it's physics-defying UAP activity. The latter scares me way more, because it reinforces the obvious, that the government knows it's completely powerless against an organization of giant flying tic-tacs/orbs/triangles/cubes/cubes enclosed in spheres, which essentially troll our fighter jets and aircraft carriers.

If Ayylmaos wanted us extinct, they would've done it already. If Ayylmaos wanted to observe and record phenomena, why expose yourself to a species that can grasp your presence, potentially fucking up your data? The fact that they don't seem to care one way or the other is terrifying to me.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

If Ayylmaos wanted us extinct, they would've done it already. If Ayylmaos wanted to observe and record phenomena, why expose yourself to a species that can grasp your presence, potentially fucking up your data? The fact that they don't seem to care one way or the other is terrifying to me.

One of The Five/Six Observables is "Multispectral signature control" AKA "Low observability/cloaking". If ayys are only visible on infrared, advanced radar, or other specialized sensors, then you wouldn't expect any Joe Pleb to see a UFO. Ever. So if NHI are seen, either they don't always cloak, or there are different kinds. There's no question that a lot of what is being seen over New Jersey is mundane/prosaic, and there's virtually no good UFO photos or videos. Ever. Just loads of shit to wade through.

The usual suspects (I think it was Coulthart or Elizondo) have implied that UAP can wirelessly interface with the brains of people on the ground. For example, appearing to one person but not another, or if you record photo/video, it won't match what is seen with the "eyes". Isn't it extremely convenient that this would make it nearly impossible to prove their existence?

Have you seen Avi Loeb / The Galileo Project's multi-sensor sky observatory?
Commissioning Data on Half a Million Objects in the Sky from the Galileo Project Observatory: Are Any of Them UAP? (archive)

@GradeAGobbleDeeGook I think I missed this one, Avi Loeb rattling the tin can for a "Galileo Project Foundation":
Now is the Time to Search for Extraterrestrial Visitors: Announcing the New Galileo Project Foundation (archive)
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/galileo (archive)

 

[The Gene Genie]

If Ayylmaos wanted to observe and record phenomena, why expose yourself to a species that can grasp your presence, potentially fucking up your data? The fact that they don't seem to care one way or the other is terrifying to me.

The alternative to the theories thst a) they want to kill us/enslave us/do malevolent things to us and b) they’re zoologists watching from the duck blind is c) they mean well, in their own way.

Maybe they have rules that they can’t intervene or actively introduce themselves in a direct manner. Maybe our Government(s) was/were supposed to introduce a slowdrip of disclosure to first contact. Any theory is equally plausible.

I tend to disagree outright with the concept that if the ayys are here it’s for malevolent reasons. If they felt inclined then they’d wipe us out or just come in and disregard us entirely. The “but they want our souls for the loosh farm” is too woo for me, and I’m probably the most woo of the UFO enthusiasts of this thread.

I believe at the root of all of this in Jersey and elsewhere is a true UFO phenomena, and the drone stuff is complete misdirection. If I had the resources of the USG and I wanted to keep “UFOs over Newark” off the headlines I’d put up every drone I had lying around. Get good footage and data from recording the UFOs, and keep people from associating what’s going on with UFOs and focused on drones.

 

[Henry V]

The alternative to the theories thst a) they want to kill us/enslave us/do malevolent things to us and b) they’re zoologists watching from the duck blind is c) they mean well, in their own way.

Maybe they have rules that they can’t intervene or actively introduce themselves in a direct manner. Maybe our Government(s) was/were supposed to introduce a slowdrip of disclosure to first contact. Any theory is equally plausible.

I tend to disagree outright with the concept that if the ayys are here it’s for malevolent reasons. If they felt inclined then they’d wipe us out or just come in and disregard us entirely. The “but they want our souls for the loosh farm” is too woo for me, and I’m probably the most woo of the UFO enthusiasts of this thread.

It's not an evil Ayylmao sci-fi empire that I'm afraid of, my issue is that there is no guarantee that these UAPs, are even a traditional form of life. They wouldn't have evolved in an environment where natural selection led to any traits similar to intelligent life here on earth, so concepts like empathy and cooperation wouldn't be needed, they could be an emergent structure that just appears in the universe, like a glider from Conway's Game of Life, similar to us, just not from traditional biochemistry. A switch could flip, and each tic-tac decides to start harvesting, etc. That clearly hasn't happened in the 1 billion-year history of complex multicellular life, so it's unlikely to happen, but the possibility will always hang above and around. Either way, we truly have no clue what these things are.

 

[fukefacedog]

I have to leave now.

Look at how your government has responded to this (it hasn't).

Your Navy was buzzed by unknown drones from 2019 to the present.

Your bases have been buzzed by unknown drones from 2018 to the present.

Your bases are being heavily swarmed by unknown drones with signature management from last month to the present.

Your government is in panic and can not get its story straight.

The Chinese Military went silent last month.

The less advanced drones are ours.

The more advanced are theirs.

Do you think it's aliens swarming your bases and navy or do you think it's China?

Many of you need to update your model of the china of today. They are authoritarian, they are conducting a genocide, and they are desperate right now and Xi will be ousted if Trump's tariffs go into effect.

Xi has no choice.

My best guess, they'll attack on Christmas.

You all better fucking hope I'm schizo.

 

[xXEddie.DurellXx]

That would be one hell of a Christmas gift I'd get to go home early from work if it's happens

 

[The Gene Genie]

Do you think it's aliens swarming your bases and navy or do you think it's China?

Genuinely? Yes, I do think it’s aliens. Did the Chinese have advanced drone technology that defies the laws of physics with the two incidences in the OP? Like i said before the drones are complete misdirection from the actual UFO phenomena.

If all of this is true how come there isn’t any obvious signs of military redeployment? Assuming they’ve already concluded that the drones aren’t stoppable the next thing they’d do is start moving assets like ships and unit formations and quickly. But nothing gets moved militarily like that (en masse rapidly) without a dozen schizos taking videos of it.

 

[Onepumpplumpchump]

You guys are all forgetting nothing ever happens, the true purpose of the drones is probably some lame and gay thing. I would put more money on the U.S. doing a false flag then China attacking.

As for the Ay lmaos I think they're around but don't give a shit.

One last thing please let the U.S. invade Mexico that would be funny as fuck, off thread topic I know but it's on my 2025 bingo card

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

This is probably late and gay, but I’m curious how America’s stockpiles of weapons are. When our gov feeds the beast of other wars by sending tech to Ukraine, Israel, etc., do we reach a point where that is impacting our own defensive capabilities?

Yes and no. If there's one thing America has an endless supply of, it's weapons. We're fine.

The CCP can and will take ownership and control of anything Chinese people own. They can take control of any company or piece of land that Chinese people have, and that extends into our Nations as well, which is enforced by their Secret Police Stations:

Yeah, I have a big problem with these Chinese Police Stations. If these things are here and they exist, and we know about it, why aren't they gone? I know they've done raids on them before. I'm willing to bet a lot of those Secret Police Stations are probably more closely associated with the Triad more than the CCP. The purpose of those things probably have far more to do with the drug trade and running than they do with any kind of pseudo Chinese invasion. If they were actually Chinese Spy facilities, they would've been taken out a long time ago. I have a hard time believing the US would allow spy stations to exist here. However, Triad operated rings? Fuck it, they've never taken those down and they've been here for over 50 God damn years now. It's not like the Triad's presence ever left these cities. Especially New York and LA. Any place with major Chinatown districts still have a fairly strong Chinese Mafia presence that probably has little to do with CCP operations.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

The Wall Street Journal: Inside the Monthlong White House Effort to Quell New Jersey Drone Frenzy (archive) (Reddit)

Biden called the Pentagon four times seeking information and was told the military had found nothing unusual

The response gave President-elect Donald Trump an opening to suggest, without evidence, that the White House was withholding the truth.

The Debrief: Academics, Investors, and UAP Seekers Unite at the 2024 Sol Foundation Symposium (archive)

The conclusion of this year’s symposium took the discussion in a different direction by focusing on funding and investment models for frontier science. A successful entrepreneur and venture capitalist, Rizwan Virk opened his lecture by breaking down funding investment models and illustrating how entrepreneurs can leverage various funding sources to build an innovative research ecosystem.

“The presentation was a summary of the white paper that I’ve been writing for the Sol Foundation on the same subject, so the white paper will go into more details when it’s released in the next month or so,” Virk said in an email to The Debrief.

“I believe private investment has a role to play in both research and UAP-related technology ventures. There are foundations that fund research in various areas – I think the problem with ‘edge’ science, or ‘frontier tech’ as I called it, is that it requires a combination of scientific and engineering research to figure out what’s going on,” Virk said.

NewsNation: Frustration, fascination with drone sightings continue to grow (archive)

Drone sightings have dipped in recent days

Stop spending time with your families!