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[WelperHelper99]

New Spy x Family has Loid finally getting personal access to the Desmond family. Yor got Melinda to get psychiatric help.

Bro Axeman took a month off to drop a nuke like this. The plot is PROGRESSING! Loid is actually moving forward, and so is the whole Desmond family dynamic. I actually really like where its going so far, ngl.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

i hate that faggot-loving nuspeak too, holy shit
i should read this

It's really good imo, definitely check it out. I think a new chapter drops today, every Sunday I'm pretty sure.

This just makes it even clearer that it's about Americans. Can the author possibly be any more blunt about it?

I think that's mostly accurate, but more specifically the recent wave of subhuman filth terrorizing Japan is not white, we don't typically behave anything like these Johnny Somali-type aliens, which are the kinds of people I think inspired this, at least in part.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I think that's mostly accurate, but more specifically the recent wave of subhuman filth terrorizing Japan is not white, we don't typically behave anything like these Johnny Somali-type aliens, which are the kinds of people I think inspired this, at least in part.

I mean some of it is about the actual history of how the US occupies Japan, and I'm sure its only non-white Americans who famously terrorized Japan, heck maybe the author got inspired if they wore alien clothing, cause I'm sure a white person never did anything like disrespect several sacred cultural norms, and openly treat the citizens like shit right?



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Bro Axeman took a month off to drop a nuke like this. The plot is PROGRESSING! Loid is actually moving forward, and so is the whole Desmond family dynamic. I actually really like where its going so far, ngl.

Yeah the new chapter is good, I hope the author continues to actually progress the plot, because ngl it felt like not much has happened for a while especially with that mini backstory arc which will take a while to say is paying off or not.

 

[WelperHelper99]

I mean some of it is about the actual history of how the US occupies Japan, and I'm sure its only non-white Americans who famously terrorized Japan, heck maybe the author got inspired if they wore alien clothing, cause I'm sure a white person never did anything like disrespect several sacred cultural norms, and openly treat the citizens like shit right?

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My neezy, Pearl Harbor. They touched the boats. They got what was coming.

Yeah the new chapter is good, I hope the author continues to actually progress the plot, because ngl it felt like not much has happened for a while especially with that mini backstory arc which will take a while to say is paying off or not.

Personally liked the backstory, But it was a detour ngl

 

[Doctor of Autism]

My neezy, Pearl Harbor. They touched the boats. They got what was coming.

Yeah not saying Japan did nothing wrong, just that some Japanese do not know about what Japan did in WW2, doesn't help that their schools hide the facts.

Personally liked the backstory, But it was a detour ngl

I liked it too, its just the schedule for Spy x Family is really inconsistent that makes things feel more like a slog than they are. I wonder if the author couldn't afford assistants since I do not know why it took nearly 2 months to drop a new chapter.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Yeah not saying Japan did nothing wrong, just that some Japanese do not know about what Japan did in WW2, doesn't help that their schools hide the facts.

It's why I don't watch Gibli films. Miyazaki is high on the "we did nothing wrong!" Train whenever he brings up the war.

I liked it too, its just the schedule for Spy x Family is really inconsistent that makes things feel more like a slog than they are. I wonder if the author couldn't afford assistants since I do not know why it took nearly 2 months to drop a new chapter.

I think he just took a break. Which I'm fine with. He's not a robot. Also if you've been looking at PHYSICAL releases recently, Axeman has been busy with auxiliary material like guides and light novels by other authors. Also the movie. It's more than just a manga anymore, it's a franchise. I don't want Axeman getting "sick" like they always word it, so yeah, take a break man

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I mean some of it is about the actual history of how the US occupies Japan, and I'm sure its only non-white Americans who famously terrorized Japan, heck maybe the author got inspired if they wore alien clothing, cause I'm sure a white person never did anything like disrespect several sacred cultural norms, and openly treat the citizens like shit right?

I think that's mostly accurate, but more specifically the recent wave of subhuman filth terrorizing Japan is not white, we don't typically behave anything like these Johnny Somali-type aliens, which are the kinds of people I think inspired this, at least in part.

This is the same as countering 13/50 by pointing to a cherry-picked white crime. Nobody said white people never do similar stuff.

And how long ago was that anyway? It's been like 8 years dude, I think Johnny Somali terrorizing living people in recent memory is more of an inspiration than a dumb, insensitive action by Jake Paul nearly a decade ago. And there's dozens of Somali-types.

 

[God of Nothing]

This is the same as countering 13/50 by pointing to a cherry-picked white crime. Nobody said white people never do similar stuff.

And how long ago was that anyway? It's been like 8 years dude, I think Johnny Somali terrorizing living people in recent memory is more of an inspiration than a dumb, insensitive action by Jake Paul nearly a decade ago. And there's dozens of Somali-types.

didn't they literally put up "Don't mess around" signs with monkeys on them?

 

[Space Police]

This is the same as countering 13/50 by pointing to a cherry-picked white crime. Nobody said white people never do similar stuff.

And how long ago was that anyway? It's been like 8 years dude, I think Johnny Somali terrorizing living people in recent memory is more of an inspiration than a dumb, insensitive action by Jake Paul nearly a decade ago. And there's dozens of Somali-types.

We get it, you Mexicans are white A50 Aryans lol

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

didn't they literally put up "Don't mess around" signs with monkeys on them?

Yeah, it was insanely based

We get it, you Mexicans are white A50 Aryans lol

Si, ese. Somos los nuevos blancos, amigo!

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Yeah not saying Japan did nothing wrong, just that some Japanese do not know about what Japan did in WW2, doesn't help that their schools hide the facts.

Same could be said of the Americans in 1899

And they never teach it in their schools much like the Korean War

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I think a new chapter drops today, every Sunday I'm pretty sure.

Gross, it's got cartoony alien sex. I didn't want to see that.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

To be a bit more specific, it's an initiative sponsored by a number of companies, NGOs, and the US Department of Homeland Security to fully embed "The Work" in every operational aspect of corporate culture and operations, to the extent that it is no longer a specific set of rules or edicts, but rather a constant drive like the profit motive that no one questions because everyone takes it as a given.

The sheer social-engineering. "That's Terror."

The Rockefellers and Rothschilds also created the FED ponzi in 1913 that prints all the bribes.. Big hmm there.

I literally just caught up with the manga today. It's going to break my fucking heart to see some of this shit animated

New Spy x Family has Loid finally getting personal access to the Desmond family. Yor got Melinda to get psychiatric help.

Here's the question, and remember that Loid is a spy who has coupled with countless women for information...
Will he attempt a honeypot on Damian's mom one day?

I'm half joking because that obviously wouldn't happen, but I DO wonder if Loid's manipulations and Melinda's loveless relationship will lead to misunderstandings (as we have so often seen with Yor and Fiona). Considering Loid is an ubermensch in the looks department AND will be trying to get on Melinda's good side as her psychiatrist - I think she might end up falling for Loid, like so many of the other females have. I live for that drama.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Here's the question, and remember that Loid is a spy who has coupled with countless women for information...
Will he attempt a honeypot on Damian's mom one day?

I'm half joking because that obviously wouldn't happen, but I DO wonder if Loid's manipulations and Melinda's loveless relationship will lead to misunderstandings (as we have so often seen with Yor and Fiona). Considering Loid is an ubermensch in the looks department AND will be trying to get on Melinda's good side as her psychiatrist - I think she might end up falling for Loid, like so many of the other females have. Sorry, but I live for that drama.

Axeman might... though it's difficult to say. They established in episode 1 he's willing to honeypot women to get to people they're close to. But Loid now? Ooh. That could be spicy.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I think he just took a break. Which I'm fine with. He's not a robot. Also if you've been looking at PHYSICAL releases recently, Axeman has been busy with auxiliary material like guides and light novels by other authors. Also the movie. It's more than just a manga anymore, it's a franchise. I don't want Axeman getting "sick" like they always word it, so yeah, take a break man

Yeah it is important for authors to take breaks, like I am perfectly fine with that, I personally wouldn't mind if he makes Spy x Family monthly since I think that would be a better schedule, but I can respect the decisions he makes. It's just that there have been a few nothingburger chapters for awhile.

 

[PunkinMan]

I watched those pesky aliens when I was like 15 and maybe Jojo once or twice because I had friends that liked it, that's about it. Oh right I forgot, my favorite anime is the ghost stories english dub.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Binged the last season of Sengoku Youko, it's meh. I don't know if it's the anime adaption, but the pacing of the second part is just horrendous and having multiple long flashbacks in a climatic fight is a writing sin.

Some concepts are interesting, but I feel like the author dipping his/her toes into the shonen genre just doesn't work. There are way too many characters and it just flip/flops between fighting is good/fighting is bad. Not to mention having potentially dark moments but never following up on those.

As an aside, I really fucking hate anime doing "killing is wrong" moralizing when the heroes and their friends are invulnerable to damage from mooks, and have a literal friendship no jutsu. If you are playing pacifist then you should at least have it be dangerous to yourself, otherwise it's the morally equivalent of "don't kill grade schoolers if they get out of line".

I think only Trigun did pacifism well.

 

[Human Institute Director]

Binged the last season of Sengoku Youko, it's meh. I don't know if it's the anime adaption, but the pacing of the second part is just horrendous and having multiple long flashbacks in a climatic fight is a writing sin.

The anime has several issues, it's not a Biscuit Hammer tier adaptation but I'd hardly call it a good one. Skipping or distorting content and changing the pacing are some of its obvious sins. At least some of the best episodes (like the shogun fight) stand out.

it just flip/flops between fighting is good/fighting is bad

I don't think it does, at least not in the manga.

Spoiler: Shogun dialogue

One of the author's main strengths is being very rational and not talking out of his ass. If he's going to preach something then he'll acknowledge the caveats and opposing viewpoints.

Generally speaking, the author advocates for exercise and healthy competition which is why some of its most competent characters (in life and spiritually) are big fightfags (like Tiger). The pursuit of power is never treated like it's a bad thing and more like a responsibility (which is why dragon guy isn't necessarily blamed for putting his son through the experiments, he had some valid reasons for that). And finally, regarding killing/violence:

As an aside, I really fucking hate anime doing "killing is wrong" moralizing when the heroes and their friends are invulnerable to damage from mooks, and have a literal friendship no jutsu. If you are playing pacifist then you should at least have it be dangerous to yourself, otherwise it's the morally equivalent of "don't kill grade schoolers if they get out of line".

It's never implied killing is a mortal sin or anything by the author. That's why Shinsuke gets some kills in, even in revenge without getting blamed for it (which is something we don't see enough in fiction imo).
When Senya wants to go for the no killing route, it's not because he has no right killing anybody, the monks even say so: voidfags took many hostages so it's going to be a real challenge to try and spare them all. The reason Senya goes for this is because of the spiritual roots of his character arc, he's not just a human being, he's growing up to become something more (hence the Senju Kannon and praying headbuddies). And it's a challenge, he did have a pretty tough fight against that army (at least in the manga).
But yeah, the author's point is more about avoiding killing when it's possible, not about anything being absolute. Similarly, revenge isn't being shunned by the characters, I'm pretty sure Shinsuke didn't do anything wrong.

I'd advise taking a look at Spirit Circle (6 volumes) if you're interested in the author's works, it has a few interesting moral dilemmas. The sleeping tower one is the most interesting imo.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

As an aside, I really fucking hate anime doing "killing is wrong" moralizing when the heroes and their friends are invulnerable to damage from mooks, and have a literal friendship no jutsu. If you are playing pacifist then you should at least have it be dangerous to yourself, otherwise it's the morally equivalent of "don't kill grade schoolers if they get out of line".

I think only Trigun did pacifism well.

I think Ruroni Kenshi does it better than Trigun since Kenshin is at least doing it in response to guilt over his own actions whereas Vash is doing out of guilt over his unwilling part in Knives actions.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

I don't think it does, at least not in the manga.

Spoiler: Shogun dialogue

One of the author's main strengths is being very rational and not talking out of his ass. If he's going to preach something then he'll acknowledge the caveats and opposing viewpoints.

Generally speaking, the author advocates for exercise and healthy competition which is why some of its most competent characters (in life and spiritually) are big fightfags (like Tiger). The pursuit of power is never treated like it's a bad thing and more like a responsibility (which is why dragon guy isn't necessarily blamed for putting his son through the experiments, he had some valid reasons for that). And finally, regarding killing/violence:

I find the author's works hit and miss. Sometimes it works well, but other times the "both sides" writing feels wishy washy, like the void people entire arc being ultimately pointless and it feels like a copout of not having a resolution or judgment for all the suffering they caused. In general there are many characters that aren't really called out for their shit even if they are objectively evil.

It's never implied killing is a mortal sin or anything by the author. That's why Shinsuke gets some kills in, even in revenge without getting blamed for it (which is something we don't see enough in fiction imo).

Kinda but you definitely see it took a toll on him, and it takes him years to return to being normal and not edgy/drunkard.

When Senya wants to go for the no killing route, it's not because he has no right killing anybody, the monks even say so: voidfags took many hostages so it's going to be a real challenge to try and spare them all. The reason Senya goes for this is because of the spiritual roots of his character arc, he's not just a human being, he's growing up to become something more (hence the Senju Kannon and praying headbuddies). And it's a challenge, he did have a pretty tough fight against that army (at least in the manga).
But yeah, the author's point is more about avoiding killing when it's possible, not about anything being absolute. Similarly, revenge isn't being shunned by the characters, I'm pretty sure Shinsuke didn't do anything wrong.

The work seems to be pretty clear on the idea of anti violence, it's there from the very start with Tama's goal. And while the initial fight was hard, very quickly he gains the Kannon form which trivialize the rest of it. In the end it's the classic issue where where characters don't act like they are in life or death stressful situations so on one end Senya doesn't want the monks help and actively stops them when they butt-in mid fight rather than just use it and try to minimize casualties on his end.

Biscuit Hammer is still the author's best work, I found Spirit Circle to be pretty strong up to the final chapters, while Youkou was too meandering, even if the adaption changed a lot. Too many characters, too many sidetracks and Tama goes from the main character to having the least amount of development and being entirely about Jinka.