US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Introvertigo]

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

The practice of buying Senate seats didn't stop there, see Rod Blagojevich and Barack Obama.

To be honest, Rod Blagojevich's case was odd in its brazenness. That kind of blatant corruption in the US system is rare.

 

[The Ugly One]

Some simple anti-corruption laws would have been better than turning the Senate into the Super House. Or specify that Senators are to be nominated by the state executive and confirmed by its legislature.

Oh well, no going back now.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

One of these days people are going to realize all of our problems are of our own making. The people are the problem really. We wouldn't need term limits if everyone would stop re-electing their own crooked reps while blaming everyone else's. Our government is just a reflection of us and what we've become as a people.

yup, at the end of the day our issue isn't that we lack the precise string of magic words written down on paper, its that as a people we're mostly fat retarded niggercattle and our leadership reflects this.

 

[John.Doe]

Some simple anti-corruption laws would have been better than turning the Senate into the Super House. Or specify that Senators are to be nominated by the state executive and confirmed by its legislature.

Oh well, no going back now.

yup, at the end of the day our issue isn't that we lack the precise string of magic words written down on paper, its that as a people we're mostly fat retarded niggercattle and our leadership reflects this.

The exact problem is that we're not willing to enforce strict laws against corruption, and execute corrupt government servants and representatives. They'd be less likely to take a bribe or bang a Chinese intelligence agent if they knew a noose could be attached to the other end of it.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Some simple anti-corruption laws would have been better than turning the Senate into the Super House. Or specify that Senators are to be nominated by the state executive and confirmed by its legislature.

Oh well, no going back now.

In my opinion, the utility of which is questionable, is that being a politician became a cushy gig. People go into politics now as a career because it is a viable career. Members of US Congress get 6 figure salaries, pensions, health care, security details, and significant access which can benefit them financially. In the beginning of the country, members of Congress got shit pay and had to finance themselves.

All of these measures to make taxpayers foot the bill for Congress were an attempt to level the playing field and prevent the positions from being filled by rich dudes. Okay, that makes sense to a degree, but now it's fucking ridiculous. It also doesn't help that, as @SaidNoOneEver notes, Americans have grown lazy. Now it's hip and cool to shit on the country, you're a zogbot or a racist if you think the US system is great, and patriotism has been removed from schools under the guise of social progress.

The lack of basic interest and participation in the political system is a major reason why dumb politicians get elected, stay there for 20 years, and are difficult to remove once they are established.

 

[Spot 'em Slot 'em]

One of these days people are going to realize all of our problems are of our own making. The people are the problem really. We wouldn't need term limits if everyone would stop re-electing their own crooked reps while blaming everyone else's. Our government is just a reflection of us and what we've become as a people.

Osho put it best:

Ironically his very existence in America was an example of the failures of our system; the fact that a murderous cult run by cartoonishly evil foreigners was allowed to set up shop anywhere on American soil was preposterous from word go, and a reminder that the American system, just like every other system, worships but one god: Money.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The Senate is meant to be a slow, deliberative entity made up of Senators representing their state's interest. Direct election removes that and makes Senators more or less slightly more powerful house members who have to whore for reelection every 6 years instead of every two. Appointment by the state legislatures prevented this, the whoring instead happening before-hand and limited to sucking up to state legislatures.

Also, if they fuck up and don't vote for their state's interests they will get an angry phone call from their state legislature and basically guarantee they won't have a job once their term is up. Which is a lot more powerful incentive than getting some nobodies bitching at you and missing out on a few votes.

It should be:
House of Reps: Directly voted in by the citizens.
Senate: Picked by the State.
President: EC with electors voted on by landowners.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

President: EC with electors voted on by landowners.

Now Blackrock owns all the land. Oops!

Requiring land ownership for voting is a bad idea.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Requiring land ownership for voting is a bad idea.

Land/home ownership shows commitment to your community's and country's well-being. If owning property was the path to vote, people would give more of a shit that corps and foreign investors are buying everything up.

 

[The Ugly One]

Now Blackrock owns all the land. Oops!

Requiring land ownership for voting is a bad idea.

Hey! Bill Gates owns a lot of land, too.

Land/home ownership shows commitment to your community's and country's well-being. If owning property was the path to vote, people would give more of a shit that corps and foreign investors are buying everything up.

And once they noticed how out of control it had gotten, they'd vote for...oh, right.

 

[not william stenchever]

Its not their fault. They cant look ahead 250 years. But given the cirumstances, its what they thought was best. Fuck Kings, were going with a slow grinding congress. Turns out that could be corrupted. Took time, but it happened. Again, some at the time brought it up, but that's why the executive and courts exist at all.

We should modernize Congress by strapping bombs to their chests that can core out their thoracic cavity at a random time. That way only people truly committed to better the Republic would run for office.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Hey! Bill Gates owns a lot of land, too.


And once they noticed how out of control it had gotten, they'd vote for...oh, right.

Still lots of homeowners that would like their children to own property themselves. Besides, how many votes would BlackRock be able to produce if they are all company owned? That problem would have a better chance of getting solved than it is now where people concerned about this issue get drowned out by millions of retards that only care about abortion and nothing else.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

Land/home ownership shows commitment to your community's and country's well-being. If owning property was the path to vote, people would give more of a shit that corps and foreign investors are buying everything up.

Larry Fink was born in Van Nuys. Oops, he owns all the land! Now you can't vote.

Do you now understand why that's a bad idea?

 

[Nuns with guns]

Illiterate, broke men won’t ruin the democratic process!

Niggers voting won’t ruin the democratic process!

Women voting won’t ruin the democratic process!

18 years old voting won’t ruin the democratic process!

Illegals voting won’t ruin the democratic process! <—- you are here

 

[The Taco Santo!]

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That part about treaties and the mob is right. I remember, after Pompey's successful wars and reorganizatioin of the east with the 3rd Mithridatic War. He returned home expecting his agreements to be quickly ratified. To Rome's immense financial benefit-There was a lot of tribute and tax payments to be paid when ratified by the Senate an People of Rome. And a reward of land to his victorious legions. But when he returned, the Optimates tried to cut him down at the knees by refusing to even debate them, led by Cato. Yes, that Cato. Pompey announced that he was giving up in the face of such stupid and obdurate opposition and would throw the whole matter before the Assembly (the mob, basically) and give them no guidance, guaranteeing a shit job of it, since they didn;t customarily deal with foreign affairs, that being traditionally the domain of the Senate. This was the main impetus on his part to join the 1st Triumvirate. Crassus, Pompey, and Caesar all got something out of it, and Rome prospered by it. What does this anecdote mean? It means the mob can't negotiate treaties very well.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Larry Fink was born in Van Nuys. Oops, he owns all the land! Now you can't vote.

Do you now understand why that's a bad idea?

He is already buying up all the land anyway. People will be more wary of billionaires buying large swaths of property and put more safeguards with outsiders buying property if it ties directly with political capital.

 

[The Last Stand]

Land/home ownership shows commitment to your community's and country's well-being. If owning property was the path to vote, people would give more of a shit that corps and foreign investors are buying everything up.

You're right. Let's have corporations, NGOs and foreigners buy all the land so they can influence future elections and the surrounding communities.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

You're right. Let's have corporations, NGOs and foreigners buy all the land so they can influence future elections and the surrounding communities.

If trump buys Greenland, I’m moving there

 

[Jace on ice]

Anyone advocating for a land ownership requirement for voting is stuck in 1823 as opposed to 2024 when most commercial and even a significant percentage of non commercial land is owned by Blackrock, Bill Gates, and Chinese investment firms.