UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson fatally shot outside Hilton hotel in Midtown in targeted attack: cops - Just Part and Parcel of visiting a Big City

The Sopranos, known for being a little indie production, made popular 15 years after it's debut by most popular comedian ever Nick Mullen and his trans friend Adam.

Maybe there are multiverses and we all post on the same website. Only way to explain this retardation.
You know Quasimodo predicted all this
 
They say there's no two people on Earth exactly the same. No two faces. No two sets of fingerprints. But do they know that for sure? Because they would have to get everybody together in one huge space and obviously that’s not possible, even with computers. And not only that, they’d have to get all the people who've ever lived, not just the ones now. So they got no proof. They got nothing. Another kiwi farmer may have quoted this line but who’s to say there isn’t another kiwi farmer just like them, or will be? Maybe not with the same fears and paranoia but the same. What I’m saying is…
 
To add to this, I can't remember if the state and fed trials are going to run concurrently but apparently this whole thing is extremely rare and the reason to do so is in case one fucks up somehow.
It seems to be still up in the air, I think the current theory is that the feds will wait for state trial first, and it's more of a backup solution in case the jury fucks up the case for them.
There were also some other articles how UH lobbied the feds to pursue this which wouldn't surprise me at all.
If he actually did kill the guy, I think it's fair that he goes for 20-25 years with chance of parole after that, basically standard murder 2 sentence for NY.
The terrorism charge is complete BS that they are pursuing to get a murder 1 charge.
Death sentence for this is too much IMO but hey, the US is an open oligarchy now so punishment is due when you dare touch the corporate elite.

Stackoverflow has scrubbed Luigi’s name. As of now the content is still up, renamed to “user4616250”. Here is a a substack w/ more info:

I snapped an archive, in case they fully scrub it: https://web.archive.org/web/20241224062757/https://stackoverflow.com/users/4616250/user4616250
Complete retardation. The questions are literally when he was a high school senior messing around with iOS development (I'm a mobile dev myself which makes this feel a bit surreal). What possible reason would they have to delete it. I'm pretty sure if you dug deep enough you could find questions and answers made by convicted child rapists on SO and I bet their content is still up.
 
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I didn't see anyone post it, so if anyone is interested Brandon Herrera has a rough recreation of the gun and silencer used (as well as a demonstration of the Station Six/VP9 that there was a lot of initial speculation/misinformation about). Main difference being that he has a nicer Glock slide and a different-but-similar 3D printed silencer since at the time of making the video pics of the silencer were unavailable. The gun runs fine but once the suppressor is added he gets basically the exact same malfunctions with both subsonic and standard velocity ammo

Might get taken down since youtube really doesn't like 3d printed gun stuff, but he might get away with it since he's a licensed manufacturer and properly serialized the parts
 
What happens when "the next Luigi" is fucking Christine Westside Chandler taking "action" because of fucking blue arms thinking they're going to gun down a SEGA executive in broad daylight
Has his spergyness said anything about the situation?
and become an instant sensation and heartthrob for women and gay guys worldwide?
Never gonna happen cuz chris is fat, ugly, retarded and now also an aging troon

Nobody anywhere simped for the trump shooter because he was a ugly fuck, not cuz he failed, its the good morning susan meme again
 
1/3rd of all claims were denied by UHC, the company he was CEO of. Industry average is 17%, and he was denying roughly 33% so yes, about double the average.
Incorrect. Is the difference between what you and everyone says and actual facts meaningful? Maybe, maybe not, but here are facts anyway.

And btw, this is not an "argument." All info about claims has massive caveats for accuracy, as data in this space is hard to come by - it's largely unregulated, unstandardized, and often based on reports for only a specific slice of the market, or based on perception or recalled experienced across a different slice. But if you're going to aver facts, at least know them, to whatever degree possible, whichever way they cut:

From the widely-cited article on the statistics:
  • It is not an overall rate, The statistics for individual companies whose stats are called out are for marketplace plans (individual & family), not employer- or government-based, which is a small slice of the overall: "Data does not include employer plans, Medicare or Medicaid."
  • Also is based on data from just 31 states, per the methodology notes.
  • The methodology also states that the overall estimated rate of denials (19%) is "not an average of the companies [highlighted in the report]. The average also includes the smaller brands that are not listed in our report."
  • The methodology states that that rate appears to be based on final resolution of claims. "Overall, 19% of in-network health insurance claims for marketplace plans in 2023 were denied. That doesn't include claims that were appealed and eventually paid." See report for more.
  • However, when you include all types of plans, a survey for a similar time period suggests that estimates of 17-19% denial rates overall do not reflect coverage on resubmission or appeal. Per that survey, 12% of the 17% initially denied per that survey were covered after the first appeal, leaving 5% denied more than once.
Other things to know -
  • From a KFF report on 2021 data, claim denial rates for in-network claims across all commercial insurance (includes employer & individual, not just individual/ marketplace) ranged from 2% to 49%, depending on company.
  • "In 2021, 41 of the 162 reporting issuers had a denial rate of less than 10%, 65 issuers denied between 10% and 19% of in-network claims, 39 issuers denied 20-29%, and 17 issuers denied 30% or more of in-network claims. (Figure 2)"
  • "Issuers that report denying one-third or more of all in-network claims in 2021 included Meridian Health Plan of Michigan, Absolute Total Care in South Carolina, Celtic Insurance in 7 states (FL, IL, IN, MO, NH, TN, TX), Ambetter Insurance in 3 states (GA, MS, NC), Optimum Choice in Virginia, Buckeye Community Health Plan in Ohio, Health Net of Arizona, and UnitedHealthcare of Arizona."
Why denied:
  • Referring back to the 2023 ValuePenguin article, 48% of denials are bc the provider failed to get the required prior authorization from the insurer. "Not getting prior authorization is the top reason why health insurance claims are denied."
  • Reasons: Why insurance doesn't cover hospital bills and medical claims (based on Experian's 2022 State of Claims Report, which was relied on by the ValuePenguin article)
ReasonRate
No prior authorization from insurance company48%
Doctor was not covered by plan42%
Billing code issues42%
Claim was not submitted before deadline35%
Patient information was not accurate34%
Claim had missing or inaccurate info33%
Not enough staff to keep up33%
Plan changed what drugs were covered27%
Insurance policies changed27%
Insurance procedures changed26%
Medical services not grouped correctly22%
Medical service not covered19%
  • For newer data: Here's a link to the summary of the 2024 SoC report, which you have to request - short version: it's gotten worse per providers, though reasons for that include both insurer and provider issues: the "top three reasons for denials are missing or inaccurate data, authorizations, inaccurate or incomplete patient info. In short? The problem is bad data."
  • Also to know, claim coverage and availability of care are not the sane thing. There's also a difference between prior authorization and claims payments. The provider decides if it will provide care to patients who do not have approved insurance claims. (And if they're in-network and screw up the prior authorization, that's generally their responsibility; if it's out-of-network, that's likely going to be the insured's responsibility.)
  • All that said, per the 2024 Experian SoC, [unclear if initial or final] industry denials rose 31% from 2022 to 2024, per the survey in that report of provider billing/claims staff.
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As for UHC, last week they issued a media advisory referencing overall claim denial rates. Per InsuranceBusiness magazine, "UnitedHealthcare said it approves and pays about 90% of medical claims upon submission, and that around 0.5% of the claims that required further review are due to medical or clinical reasons." Original advisory.

Separate fact sheet/ statement:
As of December 13, 2024

UnitedHealth Group today provided the following information regarding UnitedHealthcare’s medical claims approval rate:

  • UnitedHealthcare approves and pays about 90% of medical claims upon submission.
  • Of those that require further review, around one-half of one percent are due to medical or clinical reasons.
  • About half of those not paid initially are due to administrative errors, such as missing documentation, which can be corrected.
  • The majority remaining are due to factors such as an individual not having insurance coverage with UnitedHealthcare or duplicate claims submissions.
  • Any other numbers being discussed in some quarters purporting to be the UnitedHealthcare approval rate are wrong.

Salty. Note this is likely including all types of plans (government-based plans have lower denial rates), and I'm certain there's some definitional bullshit happening, but it is worth noting, especially given that the widely-cited statistic never flies around with all the relevant methodological info attached.
 

I didn't see anyone post it, so if anyone is interested Brandon Herrera has a rough recreation of the gun and silencer used (as well as a demonstration of the Station Six/VP9 that there was a lot of initial speculation/misinformation about). Main difference being that he has a nicer Glock slide and a different-but-similar 3D printed silencer since at the time of making the video pics of the silencer were unavailable. The gun runs fine but once the suppressor is added he gets basically the exact same malfunctions with both subsonic and standard velocity ammo

Might get taken down since youtube really doesn't like 3d printed gun stuff, but he might get away with it since he's a licensed manufacturer and properly serialized the parts
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Ace from starship troopers trooned out
 
The fact they've already lined up federal charges shows they know it's unlikely they will get a unanimous conviction in NYC court.

Where do federal jurors even come from? Are they federal employees? I can't remember a federal jury that didn't rule for the feds. If he gets a mistrial in local court they'll juice the federal trial to ensure a conviction.
 
also, an interesting experiment i saw on twitter:
for all those saying that it must be luigi based on cctv, tell the difference between these two women:
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and then these two men
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if the hunk doesn't fit, you must acquit!
Starring Natalie Portman, Keira Knightly, Jake Gyllenhal & Clive Owen.

Consider the difference in angle, expression, color-grading. How smiles warp the face. Fron these angles, your only real weathervane is the nose. How could he grow a unibrow in a couple of days? Fast hair growth and inattention, and vice-versa to lose it.
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Now, tell me the difference between these two women. Suddenly it's a lot easier when reduced to the brow ridge, nasal bridge, eyes and ears. Grooming, weight gain/loss, contacts, glasses and most plastic surgeries do not affect the fundamental bone structure and feature spacing of an individual. You can test this out with any lolcow with years of photos and have the easiest guessing game in the world. The feature ridge never changes.

The main problem here is two-fold. First, we don't have feature ridges from same-angle photos to fawn over for the 5 seconds to take to call it and secondly, I already know for a fact Luigi didn't do it because he was with me the night of the murder. In my bedroom. AND NOT WITH @Helvetia . I will be testifying to this in court.
 
But you basically are saying "they all deserve to die" by suggesting broadly that "it will be an improvement to society".
I am saying "they all deserve to die just as much as the rest of us." The things you are worried will happen already happen regularly to common people. Schools regularly get shot up, as do shopping malls, bars, and grocery stores. The elite don't send their kids to public schools, they don't shop at grocery stores, and they don't go to bars the general public can get into. The social ills they are causing with their greed don't touch their lives at all.

The CEOs of the world did not care about our struggles because it did not impact them. Now it does impact them, and it will give them motivation to be more likeable. Will it make them better people? No, but it will reign in some of their worst impulses.

I appreciate your appeals to reason and civility because this is how our country used to work, and how it should return. But not until the elite of society remember their place and remember their obligations in the social contract.
 
I think it'll make them worse due to a "give them an inch and they'll take a mile" belief..
Hence the media circus and overcharging happening in this case.

Blue Cross/Blue Shield reverses it's decision to stop covering anesthesia for surgeries that run late:

Healthcare Executives Vow to Look At Changes After Brian Thompson Shooting​


They are going to bark a lot because they don't want to look weak, but they are already starting to rein it in because of the shooting.
 

Healthcare Executives Vow to Look At Changes After Brian Thompson Shooting​

https://www.newsweek.com/brian-thompson-muder-health-insurance-2001041 https://archive.ph/zXzoL
They are going to bark a lot because they don't want to look weak, but they are already starting to rein it in because of the shooting.
Read your second link. They aren't making any changes, they said some corpo speech and finished by saying that they did nothing wrong, Brian was saving the healthcare industry, and we are just gonna keep doing what he was.
 
this was happening before Brian was shot.
This is incorrect. The policy was announced to be put in place before Brian was shot on November 4th. On November 5th, Anthem/BCBS reversed the policy after the policy got massive attention because of the shooting.


Read your second link. They aren't making any changes, they said some corpo speech and finished by saying that they did nothing wrong, Brian was saving the healthcare industry, and we are just gonna keep doing what he was.
They are barking, but see above. Also note that none of that "Brian is saving the healthcare industry" talk existed before the shooting and UHG wasn't advertising it until after the shooting.
 
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