Are SJWS evil?

[skaytec]

Most of these SJWs aren't born like that, they were created under a system which doesn't question their beliefs, their parents (or the nannys, as I have seen that many of them are kinda rich) never said ''NO'' to them, everything they wanted they had it. And what happens when these children grow up? They become a mess who can't respect authority and doesn't have the pulse to see outside of their minds, they don't see other people as equals, just ''things'' who agree or dissagree with their ideas, they're weak because they never got challenged and so they didn't learn nothing about the real world, a pure SJW happens.
And with the Nyberg, rat kings kind of SJWs, it must be something which they were born with it, called it mental illness mixed with terrible education. With them it's not the question that they are evil because they are SJWs, they could be conservatives and still be terrible people.
Long story short, a mix. I firmly believe that many of them will look back at their SJW years with cringe, thinking what was wrong with them, and the more extremist will jump another bandwagon and still be shitty.

 

[Mrs Paul]

I also think it's just funny how ridiculous the whole sjw-brand women's empowerment movement has gotten. If you've ever witnessed a catfight or any salty back and forth banter between two women, you'll quickly notice how much women hate each other despite all the hand-holding and coddling that goes around in places like Tumblr.

A-fucking-men. I've always said that the nastiest people in the world are middle-school girls.

 

[DoctorJimmyRay]

I couldn't say that they, or anyone else for that matter, are evil. I'd have a hard time saying that evil exists at all.

 

[ZeCommissar]

Also SJWs DO believe what they are doing are the "right" side of history, that since people were conservative in the past, and that in the past we had less tech, social rights, and generally a shitty way of living and dying, that means conservatism as a whole means "going back to the dark ages"

SJWs aren't evil, they are just misguided as any other extremist. Only when they start physically harming people with terrorism would someone be "evil" in my eyes.

 

[Henry Bemis]

I couldn't say that they, or anyone else for that matter, are evil. I'd have a hard time saying that evil exists at all.

Well, no one is evil in the Disney/Saturday morning cartoon sense of actively owning and boasting about being evil.

 

[Dragoonism]

I have encountered many SJWS in my line of post-grad school (law) and I have discovered, the more left-wing they are, the more likely they are to be obnoxious and unpleasent.

A little late, but i would say that both sides have their nutcases and depending on what side you lean towards makes you consider who is worse than the other.
But regarding to the original question, no i don't think that SJW are evil, not intentionally, but they can appear evil when supporting something you dont, especially the fanatically driven ones. Otherwise they are just very driven people standing up for something they believe in, in good or bad.

Oh yeah, trolls pretending to be SJW are evil, but then they aren't SJW to begin with.

 

[ASoulMan]

There are two kinds of Social Justice Warriors; Ones that think they're doing the right thing, and ones that are only in it for themselves.

 

[Oh Long Johnson]

@Ponderous Pillock is right - it is simple ignorance.

I've always enjoyed Freddie DeBoer's blog. He's young but he gets what the progressive movement should have been and how it has been co-opted by a massive influx of ignorant people, from your bog standard Democrat, to reprehensible college students, to professors too ignorant to field a simple question without lashing out and to the swarms of these idiots currently working in the media.

He made a great blog post yesterday about his frustration getting any of these social justice people to answer a simple question. I love his take on how most of them are stupefied as to how he could broach such blasphemy, then mangle an answer when pressed. You ask these people a question, you're a troll - especially with all our cows and 99% of twitter. And if you manage to corner them, they wind up shitting all over themselves. DeBoer's question about impeding Trump voters illustrates this perfectly. If this is the rise of a new evil, a new era of fascism, isn't the reluctance to bash some skulls in at the polls an act of traitorous cowardice? Or is this not the big deal you are making it out to be?

Needless to say, if a twitter SJW got the chance to go back in time and stop Hitler, they'd spend their entire time in the past bemoaning the loss of their iPhone and questioning the lack of African representation in Leni Riefenstahl's movies.

So yeah, it's ignorance all the way down. Tons of people living in e-communities, safe in the knowledge that every one of their deeply held beliefs is beyond questioning. Their friends echo their catechism and help them chase off or burn the heretics. The media feeds their belief that every wrong in the world is perpetrated by honkeys, but not them - blackpeopleloveus.

And when they get a dose of what happens in the real world, we get a salt tsunami that ripples for months. There is no self-reflection because that would require they understand the issues they claim to know beyond question.

This embarrassing period of humanity is going to last a lot longer than people think. Praise Kek.

 

[DirkBloodStormKing]

Check the Bestiary out a moment. Go on, I'll wait.

Short version is this. Most of them aren't really evil. 5s, 6s, 7s, 8s, and 9s aren't usually evil so much as misguided and/or posessed of the belief that it's necessary to get the change they want.

Type 4s are either outright dipshits or so misguided that they allow themselves to be dipshits. There's no middle ground.

Type 1s, 2s, 3s, and 10s are almost to a man reprehensible people. These tiers of Social Justice appeal to sociopaths, either for the personal enrichment, ego-trip, or simple self-satisfaction and they don't care who has to be fucked over to make it happen. It's always these assholes that dictate policy, and when policy is dictated by people who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves, you can expect the others to follow suit.

I would switch type 3 and 4 around or even say type 4 would be in the reprehensible person category after reading the descriptions on the types of SJW.

 

[Jaimas]

I would switch type 3 and 4 around or even say type 4 would be in the reprehensible person category after reading the descriptions on the types of SJW.

You'd think so, but the Profiteers are the ones most-likely to turn on the clique and turn over evidence when they do. Too much self-preservation instinct, and when the crazy gets too strong, they leave. Very often they'll be the first ones to admit that they only preached lip-service out of need for scratch.

 

[DirkBloodStormKing]

You'd think so, but the Profiteers are the ones most-likely to turn on the clique and turn over evidence when they do. Too much self-preservation instinct, and when the crazy gets too strong, they leave. Very often they'll be the first ones to admit that they only preached lip-service out of need for scratch.

I would still say Type 4's are still absolutely reprehensible people and would put them in the latter category.

 

[CatParty]

or just ignore them online and not worry about such silliness

 

[TH 360]

Similar to what others have said in the thread, SJWs themselves aren't really "evil" per se. Usually when I see people in this movement, they genuinely seem to think they're doing the right thing. Which isn't a terrible mindset to have in concept, but "good intentions" may lead to atrocities if one is overzealous in trying to prove that they are "right". Or to put it simply, one's "good intentions" may not really fix the problem at hand. In fact, what someone may want to change, may be at the expense of others.

At best they seem to come off as sheep, or blissfully ignorant of what's around them. This can happen if one is unable to see from both sides, which comes from being stuck in one's echo chamber for so long. Both Pro-SJWs, and Anti-SJWs are guilty of this kind of thing. A good thing about discussions and arguments, is that it allows you to understand where the opposition is coming from and see why they think this way. Yet, when they see a viewpoint they don't agree with, they tend to have kneejerk reactions and think you're their enemy, which is rather disappointing.

But at worst, you get various people similar to what we see as lolcows or rat kings. These people tend to vary from being delusional or in it for themselves. In a way, one can think the delusional side is not really evil...but it depends on how far they go in their fanaticism. Then we have people who are in it for themselves. They're definitely evil, at least in my eyes. They are profiting off of using their followers as their personal army, to harass anyone who disagrees with them. What more could be said about them?

 

[King Kong... with wings?]

Maybe somebody said this or maybe somebody didn't, but here is how I look at these "social justice warriors" and radical feminists out there. Their ranks are filled with lots of edge teens out and about looking for acceptance. Unfortunately, they tend to go crazy with their rebellious mindsets and stupidly abuse a movement and its wording to describe what they are doing.

These teenagers are too stupid and privileged ironically to realize that they have it good in comparison to others and unfortunately for legitimate social justice people who want to make things better for everyone such as members of the NAACP or the GLAAD, their message is ruined by dumbass teens on the internet who unwittingly provide ammo for bigots to justify why social justice is a bad thing

 

[Zorin (ASK ME ABOUT CHILD RAPE)]

I think SJWs are more likely to be evil and psychopathic than the average person because of the silly notion of 'revenge against the world for all the discrimination done to me' that fuels their degenerate ideology, not much different than the view of the Unabomber or the Columbine shooters.

Also in a book on sociopaths by Martha Stout Phd, she said one strong tell of a sociopath is their desire to have others 'feel sympathy' for them and blame the world for their own miserable lot in life. You regularly see this come up with sociopaths, such as Ted Bundy blaming pornography, Hitler blaming the Jews, et cetera.

A sign of a sociopath is that they never take personal responsibility for anything, and always seek to cast blame and play the victim.

 

[xxxyyyxxx]

The SJW movement is an exhibition of reptile brained infantilism , it's about covert narcissists herding / subverting the even more irrational overt narcissists. Former type has an introvert false self (yet they are not true introverts) and an inner child self with exaggerated emotions and hypersenstivity, then wrap this into some outwardly appearance/ display of selfless, irrational faux humanism . Latter type narcissist is only about the false self, that's what their irrationality is all about, so they naturally find themselves lower in the narcissist food-chain.

Basically it's the worst stuff narcissism has to offer, a masquerade of precocious child tyrants .

 

[Omni Ram]

Imho, if we go only with their intentions, SJW aint evil peoples (Like who are you to say someone is evil?). But the problem lies in their extreme opinions and feelings that totally disregard reality. Lack of awareness and perspective is whats dangerous in society. You cant have an open mature conversation with someone when they are so ego-invested in being right. Being wrong for SJW hurts their core values, and its kind of sad how close minded they are.

 

[i dont understood]

Most of these SJWs aren't born like that, they were created under a system which doesn't question their beliefs, their parents (or the nannys, as I have seen that many of them are kinda rich) never said ''NO'' to them, everything they wanted they had it. And what happens when these children grow up? They become a mess who can't respect authority and doesn't have the pulse to see outside of their minds, they don't see other people as equals, just ''things'' who agree or dissagree with their ideas, they're weak because they never got challenged and so they didn't learn nothing about the real world, a pure SJW happens.
And with the Nyberg, rat kings kind of SJWs, it must be something which they were born with it, called it mental illness mixed with terrible education. With them it's not the question that they are evil because they are SJWs, they could be conservatives and still be terrible people.
Long story short, a mix. I firmly believe that many of them will look back at their SJW years with cringe, thinking what was wrong with them, and the more extremist will jump another bandwagon and still be shitty.

Maybe true for some. I think the prototypical SJW is analogous to a born again Christian. They have fucked up mental scape and a sense of powerlessness, and then they discover a philosophy that tells them that all their suffering is caused by the outside world, and that even if they've made the wrong choices, its because systemic oppression gave them a shitty set of choices to choose from. It's a philosophy that empowers them to tell Good from Evil and commands them to go out into the world as a righteous warrior for positive change. As soon as you have a simple litmus test for who is good and who is evil, you can immediately set to work waging war on the world.

It hijacks their insecurity and weaponizes it. Why else is social justice so performative and affectatious? It's not enough to "check your privilege" and sensitize yourself to social issues, you need to show everyone else that you're one of the good ones. The difference between an SJW and a legit activist is the extent to which their sense of self worth is tied up in their being one of the Righteous -- the more you threaten their ideas, the more you threaten them, and the more vicious and incoherent they become. The more you question them, the more obviously you are one of the Evil Oppressors.

 

[John Furrman]

HoneyBadgerRadio does a pretty good analysis on SJWs. As well as the history behind them and the various incarnations of SJWs in the past. The metaphors they use are very apt.

 

[McGregor]

SJW, there's a loaded conversation any way you slice it. The best analysis I ever saw of them came from a UofT professor of psychology. He initially went into political science but found it unsatisfactory in arriving at the answers to his questions and became a practising clinical psychologist and professor of psychology with a focus on politics. His views are naturally controversial but I've yet to see any of his debaters successfully counter them leading me to suspect he's likely close to on the money. The short answer is probably best described by - I know, I know, Rebel Media what were they thinking? - this audio inept interview conducted with Lauren Southern.

He seems to have given the current SJW conundrum and PC conundrum a great deal of thought and research compared to nearly every other source of info out there. I find his work impressive. Hopefully it provides some insight for the thread.