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https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hlo5dp/kiwifarms_artist_hate_thread/ (https://archive.is/tjBAM)

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Runch said:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtistHate/comments/1hlo5dp/kiwifarms_artist_hate_thread/ (https://archive.is/tjBAM)

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Oh shit, they know

Quick everyone, brace for impact!!

for real though, was that one of our guys?

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Which one of you people is this refering to? Also lol @ the neo-nazi callout when most farmers shit on hitler as much as the anti-ai people and they're acting similarly as the actual national socialist party in germany back in world war 2. Their entire methodology had been outdated since the atom bombs dropped.

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We do discuss paraphilia, but it's mostly to discuss lolcows who have them and the strange behaviour that occurs because of that e.g. anti-ai people and their irrational hatred of a bunch of noise. I bet a lot of farmers don't even jerk off to the particular strange fetishes their target of discussion gets off to.

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Lol big cope
While there's some ai-loving lolcows (as in, to the degree of worshipping it like the second coming of jesus), a larger volume of lolcows are artists, pretty sure a part of them has anti-ai sentiment beyond the usual for artists. Apparently mental deviancy and terminal intolerance go hand in hand in being an artist. They also have much worse behaviour than the ai technocultists, so it's prime milking material.
 
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Benjamin BLM (@stealcase on X) is one to look out for, a simp for Karla Ortiz, his cluelessness is only matched by his Marxist-wannabe virtue signalling. Prime lolcow material. His latest stunt has been to push the idea that Suchir Balaji was murdered by openai
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Lol big cope
While there's some ai-loving lolcows (as in, to the degree of worshipping it like the second coming of jesus), a larger volume of lolcows are artists, pretty sure a part of them has anti-ai sentiment beyond the usual for artists. Apparently mental deviancy and terminal intolerance go hand in hand in being an artist. They also have much worse behaviour than the ai technocultists, so it's prime milking material.
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Reddit Drawslave: “YOU’VE TAKEN EVERYTHING FROM ME! I don’t even have any milk left to be squeezed from my teats. I’m going to kill myself.”

Non-sentient image generation algorithm: “Beep Boop.”
 
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some stupid shit i saw on my twitter. anti-AI fags are violent
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I recall watching a video recently that said something like "now that AI has come around artists are desperately trying to rescue objectivity from the well they drowned it in, now that AI has come around you need to decide whether you're going to continue your subjectivist take on what art is and be forced to accept that AI art is art, or try to claw back some sense of objectivity and actually meaningfully define art for once in your life".

Same video also pointed out the parallels to the NFT bros that they were trolling with "lol I saved your monkey jpeg". NFT bros were saying there should be legislation that prevents people from saving their monkey JPEGs and they got clowned on. A month later the artists are pushing for legislation that prevents programs from saving their JPEGs.

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Now to be fair upscalers might not be considered generative AI, but Nintendo is probably comfortable playing with the technology in non-creative application.
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Functionally, they're basically the same tbh. They're denoising algorithms which force the AI to fill in the gaps. It's just that with image generators, the "gap" to be filled is basically the entire image while AI upscaling is filling in the gaps from upscaling an image.

At it's core level, it's probably doing the exact same process you'd see from something like an image-to-image generation you get in stable diffusion. It's just that <10% of people actually understand the tech well enough to know it's the exact same thing. Many artists still believe that AI art generation is forming a collage of data from other images.
 
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linchan said:
He made the same video 5 times over the year with the same points.
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Where are my autism reactions. I want back my autism reactions.

Welsh Catgirl Enjoyer said:
At it's core level, it's probably doing the exact same process you'd see from something like an image-to-image generation you get in stable diffusion. It's just that <10% of people actually understand the tech well enough to know it's the exact same thing. Many artists still believe that AI art generation is forming a collage of data from other images.
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It becomes really apparent to me that people are significantly more accepting of AI depending on if it's convenient or inconvenient for them, even if by principle the same thing they hate is the same thing they directly benefit from.

Now is this hypocritical? I think it's fine to draw a line on what you personally like or don't like but as soon as someone pursues some legislation through a bad understanding of technology, such as the collage parallels, they risk intruding on other forms of art that follow similar principles.

This is how modern copyright laws transformed. The DMCA was originally meant to regulate technology in a way that prevents mass piracy through services like Limewire and Napster. Now those websites are as good as dead, but piracy has merely proliferated, and most websites are happy to comply with these laws, not to respect the copyright of creators but to move the liability towards the users. So as a result of this legislation, who tends to be the one that suffers the most?

Ironically, the artists usually who takes a lot from pre-existing assets and properties through fan-creation and remix culture. There used to be a bustling culture of Anime Music Videos and Youtube Poops that was unique to internet culture, but over time they started to die off. One can say these are too low-brow to be worthwhile art forms but in retrospect, there are plenty of people who look at these fondly, and they are at risk of being removed from the face of the earth if the rights-holder does anything drastic.

Outside of art, these copyright-compliant systems hurt the careers of many internet creators. The music review scene is basically dead beyond Anthony Fantano because you simply can't use the music sample in a discussion of an album. Movie reviews less so, and fortunately, companies laxed their use of their copyright over the years but it's not rare to see a perfectly fair use video being taken down because of the compliant system within these websites. Not that movie reviews don't suffer from these systems, usually, they don't get in trouble for copyright but for content guidelines that basically force creators to mangle their words if they want to discuss darker topics.

Yeah, this is partially the fault of the websites not accounting for nuance, and one can blame the law, I personally do as well, but these systems largely exist born from the concerns of the "little guys" or" the weak", or at least that's what they say to justify it. These systems often are written and pushed haphazardly and hastily, not really getting why exactly the worst-case scenario can happen, so they completely miss their target and incur collateral damage.

Sometimes I can't help but think that this is an instance of the zeitgeist getting wrapped up in the possibility of the worst, while not realizing that the very thing they are fear-mongering is more often than not sabotaging the livelihood of others. Especially with people thinking that things like art style should be protected legally under copyright.

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