Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

[j.peikko]

No way they answered 9000 calls last year.

That's roughly 25 calls a day (that's including weekends and holidays). And we have proof they don't answer even during their own business hours. Of course none of the people reading Gretas lies have the brains to do simple math.

perhaps thats including returned calls from food delivery

 

[Smutley]

They could be counting "answered calls" as including the ones the "call back later" machine picks up.

 

[JU 199]

btw this post reading TTL was reblogged by linkara- http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/153251544448

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Trans Lifeline isn’t a scam.

queer-trash-witch:

There’s a post going around right now claiming that Trans Lifeline is a scam that exists to harm vulnerable trans youth. This is false, and much of the “evidence” is fabricated.

Much of it comes from a site called Kiwi Farms, which functions as a sort of base of operations for 4chan-style online harassment campaigns against marginalized and vulnerable people. Over the summer, Kiwi Farms launched a harassment and misinformation campaign intended to discredit Trans Lifeline. (Notice that the Twitter account linked in the post is a bot that was only active for a few weeks in August, and that many of the other links go directly to Kiwi Farms.)

The line about the founder showing up at someone’s house refers her reaction to the harassment campaign: locating the person who runs Kiwi Farms and going to confront him in person. Her “vague threatening posts” were in response to being doxxed and having threats directed at her and her family.

Why don’t operators call 911? Because police responding to suicide-related 911 calls have a history of failing to deescalate situations and murdering marginalized people. A lot of trans people feel safer discussing suicidal thoughts with the assurance that they won’t have to deal with cops at their door.

Is Trans Lifeline unable to answer every call they receive? Yes. I’ve witnessed it happen. This is because Trans Lifeline is a small org struggling to fill a massive need for services, not because they’re all sitting around ignoring the phone. And I don’t doubt that some people have had bad experiences with Trans Lifeline operators. However, the project’s flaws result from a lack of resources - which is why they’re fundraising to hire more staff and provide better training for volunteers.

And about their post-election day blog post? They’ve since updated it to read “rumors that eight or more trans folks died” in light of the information that the list may have been fabricated.

Stop spreading misinformation, especially when lives could be at stake.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

btw this post reading TTL was reblogged by linkara- http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/153251544448

We don't think TLL "exists to harm vulnerable trans youth." We know it exists to fund Greta and Nina's endless holidays, and vulnerable trans people are incidentally harmed because they erroneously trust in TLL.

Given the work people have put in around here to document exactly how screwed up TLL and its founders are, I can't help but think that Greta and co should really stop telling people about us. Their assumption that everyone will mindlessly believe everything they say may hold true among the troon brigade, but to everyone else it's pure Streisand.

 

[NQ 952]

We don't think TLL "exists to harm vulnerable trans youth." We know it exists to fund Greta and Nina's endless holidays, and vulnerable trans people are incidentally harmed because they erroneously trust in TLL.

Given the work people have put in around here to document exactly how screwed up TLL and its founders are, I can't help but think that Greta and co should really stop telling people about us. Their assumption that everyone will mindlessly believe everything they say may hold true among the troon brigade, but to everyone else it's pure Streisand.

Blogs like this really piss me off. I didn't spend almost 5k of my own money because I hate transexuals, or have some personal vendetta against Greta (I don't even know the person, really). I spent the money to try and validate what @Null was claiming.

I did it because, despite the vitriol I spew out, I do take suicide prevention seriously. If you're just going to ignore actual numbers you're just a virtue signaling faggot not worth the skin you inhabit.

I don't think TLL exists in bad faith. I think the business model is such that it's turned around and TLL needs new management to successfully complete their mission, because right now every bit of data we have says they are failing.

Now I'm just angry. What a fucking crock of shit.

 

[Null]

I don't think TLL exists in bad faith.

Oh, I do. If they really cared they'd answer the fucking phones themselves.

Do we have a big infopost ready to roll out?

 

[NQ 952]

Oh, I do. If they really cared they'd answer the fucking phones themselves.

Do we have a big infopost ready to roll out?

I already posted the docs in this thread. Wasn't prepping anything else, unless you want me to?

 

[Twrx]

btw this post reading TTL was reblogged by linkara- http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/153251544448

I like how they put that tll has since realized the number of suicides on election night were fabricated, but mentions nothing of the lie that the orge said he had reached out to those 8 or 9 families.

 

[JU 199]

I like how they put that tll has since realized the number of suicides on election night were fabricated, but mentions nothing of the lie that the orge said he had reached out to those 8 or 9 families.

Greta has killed more trans people then Trump.

 

[Null]

I already posted the docs in this thread. Wasn't prepping anything else, unless you want me to?

I'm going to be on The Dick Show with Dick Masterson on Sunday and I want to tell the story of TLL because I think it our story going from poo to poo in the loo reaches across lines and manages to be interesting, sad, upsetting and funny at the same time.

I want to link something though.

 

[NQ 952]

I'm going to be on The Dick Show with Dick Masterson on Sunday and I want to tell the story of TLL because I think it our story going from poo to poo in the loo reaches across lines and manages to be interesting, sad, upsetting and funny at the same time.

I want to link something though.

Alright. I'll get you a forum post tonight/tomorrow morning.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

What is this, a call to arms for the Crusades?

TROONUS VULT

 

[Null]

Alright. I'll get you a forum post tonight/tomorrow morning.

Talk to @Field Marshal Crappenberg because he's working on something for LCW.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

btw this post reading TTL was reblogged by linkara- http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/153251544448

I saw the headline of "TLL isn't a scam", and that was all I needed. Linkara, I know you're a feminist when it's convenient for you, but come on, bro. Even you gotta know TLL is bullshit.

 

[AnOminous]

What is this, a call to arms for the Crusades?

I like that his name is almost "Colon Fail."

Cause that's what will happen after his dickings are finished.

 

[Manapan]

Is this ever going to fucking stop? I am so absolutely sick and tired of fighting. I just want to grieve in peace. Fuck you for making me come at this over and over again, Greta.

 

[keksz]

@Manapan, just don't answer. Honestly, if all you want to do is process your feelings in peace, you can't feed the people who are interrupting that process for you, no matter how noble you try to be while at it. The entire world can wait until you're feeling stronger - your son needs you to get there and we'll be happy to have you again when the time comes. Don't waste your time and energy on these people.

I like how they put that tll has since realized the number of suicides on election night were fabricated, but mentions nothing of the lie that the orge said he had reached out to those 8 or 9 families.

@Field Marshal Crappenberg: you'll probably want to add this admission without explanation to your final report! Thought I'd ping you since this is pretty new stuff and you might be done with gathering data already.

I'm going to be on The Dick Show with Dick Masterson on Sunday

That's awesome, good luck with that! I'll make sure to tune in! EDIT: anywhere we can hear this live? The show's site seems to be an archive only.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

Lol, Gretas big plan to get back at KF is to have Vice do a story. Any reporter worth the title would look into why TLL doesn't answer calls 89% of the time and use donations to fund a non-stop travel and vacations. Not to mention the fact they are endangering lives by not reporting suicide calls to authorities, have minors working as volunteers and if someone bothers to answer the phone they will hang up on anyone who's not 100% sure they are trans.

 

[Very Honest Content]

It's really sad that apparently the media is going to live down to my prediction of considering Amanda to be less worthy of listening to and signal boosting because they're too busy being blinded by the Oppression Olympics points tallied up by Kjel and the parade of rats he pied pipers in his wake.

Sad, but completely expected for the foreseeable future . . .

 

[JSGOTI]

Lol, Gretas big plan to get back at KF is to have Vice do a story. Any reporter worth the title would look into why TLL doesn't answer calls 89% of the time and use donations to fund a non-stop travel and vacations. Not to mention the fact they are endangering lives by not reporting suicide calls to authorities, have minors working as volunteers and if someone bothers to answer the phone they will hang up on anyone who's not 100% sure they are trans.

>Any respectable reporter
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