Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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Toji Suzuhara said:
It was gonna happen eventually, as what the TNO devs' wanted for Russia post-2WRW was almost oppossed to what the 2WRW submod presented. Still good for them and hopefully they are able to make all the changes they want, they clearly care more about war than the TNO devs and they also have past experience working with other dev teams as well, so they can get some outside help
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It wouldn't surprise me if TrooNO did things out of sheer spite in reaction to someone making a mod that's better than theirs.
 
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Karakhalkin-Gol said:
TNO: 2WRW is making moves to become its own independent mod.
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Pray for their success, kiwis.
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This one has a chance of being an actual redux. As every other redux is "edgy kid got called a fascist for being a tradcath and is making his own with no coder" 2ndWRW has a chance as they at least made actual extra content. We'll have to see if it comes full circle and we get them filling in the 1960s content.

foreman 89 said:
The devs just completely vanished on their discord server after they were integrated into the base mod.
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What the fuck happened there?
 
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Coberald said:
The original submod release already had the Neushwabenland content and teased a Burgundian Ahnenerbe research base lead by Wolfram von Sievers.
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It might still be in the game?
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Rome's rightful successor said:
It might still be in the game?
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He's probably gonna get cut to some extent once Burgundy gets the axe. Actually that's a problem which I saw in my Neuschwabenland run, a lot of its narrative explicitly relies on the GCW happening, for example like a dozen events about the 2nd mountanieer division choosing a side in the war, which is getting cut once the Germany rework happens. They've added content which they know they'll have to delete in the future
 
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Toji Suzuhara said:
He's probably gonna get cut to some extent once Burgundy gets the axe. Actually that's a problem which I saw in my Neuschwabenland run, a lot of its narrative explicitly relies on the GCW happening, for example like a dozen events about the 2nd mountanieer division choosing a side in the war, which is getting cut once the Germany rework happens. They've added content which they know they'll have to delete in the future
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This makes me believing in the conspiracy theory that the modern devs are just modern HOI4 modders. In that they themselves can make art and pretty looking gui and portraits but cannot code. So they need to hire and out source for submods. This is more of my own conspriacy theory but we might either see one of two things. Either main TNO actually begs and pleads to 2WRW to integrat into their mod since all they can do is outsource. Or 2WRW becomes the main TNO instead of a redux. Anyway we will have to see as idk if 2WRW has updated recently either.

I still think the needless crappy gui and mini-games is what hurts most of these tno devs and mods. My modding skills are not the best but I was self taught on hoi3 since its not too hard to recognize the patterns in HOI4 scripting Issue is making events and national focuses is pretty easy. Not as easy to make all these gui mini-games that have all these variables tied to them. I think as a test of my own skill one time I ported the TNO election system of the U.S to KR USA for its second ACW. After I did that I realized it was retarded as I did get it working... but realized that deep down just pressing a button to get a president was better.
 
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Ryona420 said:
This makes me believing in the conspiracy theory that the modern devs are just modern HOI4 modders. In that they themselves can make art and pretty looking gui and portraits but cannot code. So they need to hire and out source for submods. This is more of my own conspriacy theory but we might either see one of two things. Either main TNO actually begs and pleads to 2WRW to integrat into their mod since all they can do is outsource. Or 2WRW becomes the main TNO instead of a redux. Anyway we will have to see as idk if 2WRW has updated recently either.
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I honestly believe that. The Antartic Administrations don't have focuses, or factories, or troops, or research slots. They rely entirely on their events, the resource minigame, and the antartic grid system to pad out the run (which is why we are never getting full content for them, btw, can you imagine staring at the exact same UI for 10 years? It's like Frostpunk but shitty). Laos and Cambodia have almost 10 news events, and each of them have like seven national spirits that they get throught the run, all of them with a unique artwork. Operation Southern cross is literally just a single border conflict between the OFN and NSL, and the subcontinental war (India VS Pakistan and Azad Hind) starts because of a single event. Bhose falls into a coma, recovers, and then declares war, there's almost no build-up for it unless you are one of the major powers getting involved. The only thing that this update added that isn't toozer level or putting pre-existing code in is the Patterson Projection, that's it
 
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Coberald said:
Because they didn't bother to change it from the original that was released almost three years ago. The event chains are the exact same I remember from 2022.
>14 Januray 2022
What a joke.
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Normally this wouldn't be a concern but since the rework was well-known for a good few months, they should've edited the event chains to conform to the new TNO timeline. Also is it just me or do the new map colors changes look off? Personally, I find it hard to look at, especially with the border lines being near nonexistent.
 
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Ryona420 said:
This makes me believing in the conspiracy theory that the modern devs are just modern HOI4 modders. In that they themselves can make art and pretty looking gui and portraits but cannot code.
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Its not a theory its fact, the vast majority of hoi4 modders don't have a solid understanding of how to code and this has always been the case.

Toji Suzuhara said:
which is getting cut once the Germany rework happens
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They're removing the GCW?
 
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Moja Zemlja said:
They're removing the GCW?
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I'm sorry but they're removing the kore event that sets off literally everything in the mod? Sure all the shit that goes down in Europe is fucking pointless anyways since the victors are railroaded into being annexed by Germany again anyways, but seriously?

This is like removing Black Monday from Kaiserreich, except fucking worse because Black Monday is just a fucking event that can be rewritten into anything else, not a civil war that destabilizes the Nazi Regime to the point rebellions erupt everywhere.
 
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manfred von manfred said:
I almost never play TNO because I think Burgundy and the Burgundian System is comically evil and only serves to cockblock Germany playthroughs. Feel free to correct me because I havent touched the mod in years.
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So, around 2022 or so Burgundy got a rework of sorts. No Globalplans anymore or anything like that, Himmler is now just the nazi Kim Il-Sung who rules an slave state and to build bunkers with the goal of nuking the world afterwards, which he isn't able of actually doing because canonically Burgundy collapses into civil war at the start of 1970 and what's left is invaded by Germany. Then in the quest for further realism the devs have decided to in the future remove the SS coup from the lore, thus also replacing Burgundy by a regular RK, Himmler now being in Germania doing SS things. All of that and more is explained here
 
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Corpun said:
I'm sorry but they're removing the kore event that sets off literally everything in the mod? Sure all the shit that goes down in Europe is fucking pointless anyways since the victors are railroaded into being annexed by Germany again anyways, but seriously?

This is like removing Black Monday from Kaiserreich, except fucking worse because Black Monday is just a fucking event that can be rewritten into anything else, not a civil war that destabilizes the Nazi Regime to the point rebellions erupt everywhere.
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Apparently they are replacing it with a power struggle mechanic, can’t have any actual conflicts in our grand strategy game mod!
 
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Corpun said:
I'm sorry but they're removing the kore event that sets off literally everything in the mod? Sure all the shit that goes down in Europe is fucking pointless anyways since the victors are railroaded into being annexed by Germany again anyways, but seriously?

This is like removing Black Monday from Kaiserreich, except fucking worse because Black Monday is just a fucking event that can be rewritten into anything else, not a civil war that destabilizes the Nazi Regime to the point rebellions erupt everywhere.
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I've not played TNO for years but wasn't the event that sparks the GCW the death of Hitler?
 
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Notorious N.I.G said:
Does that mean Dirlewanger's funny rape state won't exist anymore, since the entire point of him even being in Russia is because he took his men and fled into it due to the failure of the coup? If so than that is the true 9/11 for this Mod.
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The communiqué doesn't mention it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they simply don't cut him because they forgot to. Also, these reworks are fucking absurd1000016476.jpg
No french civil war

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No SS civil war with Heydrich's Germany as well, obviously

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No Kruschev, and no Kaganovich

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And the dyke is saying that despite Germany not even having the need to mobilize for the WRW (the first one), it's still a pyrrhic victory for them. Also, 99% of Germany's economic and military problems come from their post-WRW overcorrection when they started funneling everything into the army, why would they do that if their actual army wasn't even involved in the WRW?
 
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Toji Suzuhara said:
The communiqué doesn't mention it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they simply don't cut him because they forgot to. Also, these reworks are fucking absurdView attachment 6793116
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And the dyke is saying that despite Germany not even having the need to mobilize for the WRW (the first one), it's still a pyrrhic victory for them. Also, 99% of Germany's economic and military problems come from their post-WRW overcorrection when they started funneling everything into the army, why would they do that if their actual army wasn't even involved in the WRW?
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>Germany barely had to lift a finger to win
>Erm, how dare you think they stomped the Russians
Looks like the hrt rotted this stunning transbians brain.
 
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