Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Outer Space Traveller]

59 year old male. salamacian.
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Spoiler: FFS and Vagina

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What the fuck is that. lol his stinkditch looks like two deflated balls, and his face looks like "some former boxing champion who got beaten up attempting to pick up a fight".

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Why aren’t these men horrified about the idea of their dick being split in half and sewn down between their legs? That’s all I can see in these photos. Sheer body horror.

Because they are fucked up in their head. They don't think like normal people.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Why aren’t these men horrified about the idea of their dick being split in half and sewn down between their legs? That’s all I can see in these photos. Sheer body horror.

Mental illness. Once you've accepted "female brains in male bodies", magic surgically scultped fuck-stigmatas aren't that much more of a stretch. Why do ana-chans starve themselves to death?

 

[Stan]

NOTE: I don't have breasts yet, starting HRT soon. Just wondering as I love swimming and I wanted to think of a solution before my breasts came in (so weird to see myself typing that, but I love that!).

Does this guy not know what a rash guard is? Is he too stupid to glance at a swimwear site before heading to Reddit to humblebrag about his titties?

What kind of dysphoria could his voice possibly be causing that he can perceive,

IIRC deaf people can sort of hear their own voices, in the way that you can hear your own voice when you're wearing earplugs. But the extent to which deaf people can perceive the sound of their own voice is gonna vary based on why they became deaf.

Ugh he groomed both his kids too.

I hate how he acts like his 9yo son wanting to troon out is somehow "genuine", even while he's acknowledged that his kid could be doing this to imitate him. It's that gross sticker with the old troon grooming the kid in rainbow tights, but IRL, and they're now father and son.

Medical Kiwis, is there a reason why pooners pass a bit better than troons do? It seems like testosterone does actually masculinize a woman's body a hell of a lot more than estrogen feminizes a man's. They're always short and small but that photo of the pooner grilling veggies almost looks like a dude. Meanwhile troons always are quite obviously a dude in drag.

I'm no doctor so I got no idea on any of that. Is it like a thing where you can go from estrogen to testosterone but not testosterone to estrogen? Like how babies start out as somewhat female or something?

I may be able to help explain. At the risk of oversimplifying:

Female is often nature's default configuration of sexual development. The Y chromosome basically has one protein-coding gene on it, which is called SRY. SRY basically codes for the production of testosterone, and that's it. In the absence of sufficient testosterone, male fetuses with Y chromosomes will follow a female-looking path of development. Some examples of this would include: Klinefelter Syndrome, which is XXY genotype, or androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS). These result in genetic males who have underdeveloped or absent male sex characteristics.

Conversely, when testosterone is present in the uterine environment of a female fetus, it will cause masculinizing effects that cause the female fetus to follow a male-looking path of development. An example of this would be freemartins, which occur when a female cow fetus and a male cow fetus share the same intrauterine environment, and the testosterone naturally produced by the male twin is passed to the female one. That intrauterine exposure to T makes the heifer infertile and will behave more like a steer (castrated male) as an adult than like a cow. Freemartins are infertile.

So when we look at troons, they're XY males who went through a male puberty and acquired masculine secondary sex characteristics, and now they want to undo those characteristics. Pooners OTOH are females naive to androgen (at least at the conc'n found in males) and have gone through a female puberty. It's easier to impose these masculinizing changes by T monotherapy than it is to try and undo traits that are already there with antiandrogen therapy. And as I'm sure you know, some changes of puberty are permanent, like changes in body hair color & texture. No amount of E is going to stop a troon's beard from growing, though it may grow a bit more slowly. So pooners often look more like real natal males, with the caveat that they're always short and they often still have a very dainty feminine bone structure, because estrogen imposed those changes and closed those growth plates back in puberty.

 

[Gluten free nut milk]

since this contains a chick with a mutilated genital area, i think it fits best in this thread..
straight porn a little bit differently kek

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A hairy bald woman with a mastectomy moaning and pretending she feels anything while a man with breast implants passionlessly rubs oil on a dildo she stuffed in her pants. This is the saddest attempt at intimacy I've ever seen.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Medical Kiwis, is there a reason why pooners pass a bit better than troons do? It seems like testosterone does actually masculinize a woman's body a hell of a lot more than estrogen feminizes a man's. They're always short and small but that photo of the pooner grilling veggies almost looks like a dude. Meanwhile troons always are quite obviously a dude in drag.

I'm no doctor so I got no idea on any of that. Is it like a thing where you can go from estrogen to testosterone but not testosterone to estrogen? Like how babies start out as somewhat female or something?

Check out this post from years ago. A woman who used to work for the CIA creating disguises for their agents explains how a disguise works and why you can disguise a woman as a man, but not vice versa.

 

[Aunt Carol]

“146 over 96,” the doctor said, her tone cool, almost clinical. She arched an eyebrow at the reading and turned her attention back to Alta. “Your blood pressure is still high. Have you given any more thought to starting medication?”

Alta sighed deeply, her frustration mounting. “I have,” she signed carefully, “but I really don’t want to. I’m trying other things—fasting, supplements, cutting back on sodium.”

This is so classically middle-aged-malebrained. He's already taking cross-sex hormones and he's trying to get his testicles removed, but noooo he doesn't waaaaant to take medication for his hypertension. (As opposed to "supplements?")

Biology is fact, dude. Renal capillaries don't care that he identifies as someone with lower blood pressure.

is there a reason why pooners pass a bit better than troons do?

Like everyone else said, the tl;dr is that testosterone is pretty one-way. Add to that that a hulking hon is an unconscious threat--what other parts of the social agreement will he break--while a dumpy manlet doesn't ring the same alarm bells.

Also it's my turn to post the CIA disguise lady (cued):

You can turn a woman into a man. I would mention that it's almost impossible to turn a man into a woman. What we do is additive.
eta: dammit @Peaches Demure I was too slow

But the extent to which deaf people can perceive the sound of their own voice is gonna vary based on why they became deaf.

I guess I assumed he wasn't lying when he said on that non-troon subreddit that he literally cannot speak aloud. Not that he's got a thick deaf accent: bro said he can't speak. If he learned to speak as a deaf adult, he's only had five years of practice, learning in his late 30s. Troons lie but I don't know what direction he's lying.

 

[Amin Yasister]

My brother has a nurse friend who gets people (men) at the ER who "accidentally" end up with things in their butt. One such specimen, put a condom over an entire coconut and shoved it up his ass. When had done pleasuring himself with the fruit, he accidentally broke the condom attempting to pull it out. He went to the hospital, and they had to sew his butthole shut due to the extensive damage caused by the coconut fibers in his rectum, and they had to give him a stoma. A few weeks later, that same guy came back to the ER with a cucumber stuck in his stoma.

I had a road accident and was taken to the Accident and Emergency hospital to be checked over.

Whilst waiting to be assessed, I heard a conversation between a patient and the triage nurse.*

"Nurse, I have a cricket ball stuck in my rectum"

"How's that?"

"Don't you bloody start"

*may not be understood by American and European members here

 

[I call shenanigans]

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Please bear in mind that this forum doesn’t always work as it should. I’ve used the highlight to quote method since it came into being. Sometimes though it just doesn’t function correctly, and I just have to go with the “sorry can’t quote right now” and just @ the member I would like to quote. The are also times when a simple hit of the quote button also doesn’t work, because it’s not there, even for very short one sentence posts. It is what it is, and jumping on a user isn’t always helpful. There are ways to guide people to correct methods without being suck a prick.

 

[Magic Pickle]

Why aren’t these men horrified about the idea of their dick being split in half and sewn down between their legs?

Spoiler: My theory - possibly tinfoilly.

Trannies, like many chronically online people, have a particularly difficult time with the proper congruence of their mental selves with their physical selves. I theorize that because so much of the internet is so minimal on physical activity and so heavy on mental activity (even if it's something as brain-melting as those triple-screens Gen Alphas are accustomed to) that they don't seem to be as aware of their bodies being "them" as they should be.

More eloquent and thoughtful farmers have likely explained it better than I have in pages past, but to explain further: essentially, the "body" isn't real to these people and does not represent them as people. This incongruence leads to alleged "dysphoria" - whether it's legitimate dysphoria or not is rarely ever properly screened by a professional - and for some can be such a state of disassociation that they just aren't feeling things the way they should. Maybe it's the fact they think everything should feel strongly and believe it's odd that there are mild and borderline non-existent sensations, maybe they are bullshitting, maybe the truth lies somewhere in between. Until these idiots let us properly study them, we'll always be flying by the seat of our spinny-skirts.

Having observed many troons of both sexes, I often find extremes in how they report physical sensations: they may be chronic masturbators who struggle with addiction and drug use to feel as much as they can as possible, or on the other end of the spectrum they are aimless, absent pilots to a machine they care little for.

Spoiler: Differences in the sexes.

Pooners seem to have more trouble feeling "in touch" with their bodies and work harder to separate themselves from it as a result - see binding, refusal to bathe/poor hygiene, many often have scarring that implies self harm via purposeful cutting or more compulsive behaviors like skinpicking, etc. I notice that pooners are more likely to be alcoholics and/or chronic weed smokers.

On the other side of things, trannies are more invested in chasing ever-after highs - how many posts have we rolled our eyes at about fucking full-body female orgasms where you're seizing violently like an epileptic being the goal? These dudes are willing to use shit with animal hair in it because it was made in a bathtub because they think it'll give them orgasms typically seen on ahegao hoodies. In contrast to the pooners, while trannies also smoke weed and drink heavily, they are also more likely to experiment with more intense drugs ranging from benzos to shit as intense as fentanyl. Suddenly, the statistics about tranny deaths makes more sense when you realize a lot of them are dying in drug disputes because they're doped-up crackwhores being killed by other junkies.

(Funny enough, pooners seem to become more sexed-up and craving novelty - even seeking danger - once they begin testosterone treatment, whereas trannies often become more apathetic and anxiously start questioning the authenticity of their genders once that engine of theirs isn't running the same way. Curious, isn't it?)

None of this is statistically backed, by the way - simply trends I've personally observed from being forced to share spaces with degenerates of both sexes while also seeing what they like to say when "the cissies" aren't looking. Take it with a grain of salt.

But I digress - my main point is that trannies seem to be so disconnected with the physicality of their actual bodies that they will go on to do abjectly horrible things to it that the rest of us would consider a fate worse than encountering The Lament Configuration. Stapling your dick into your pelvis isn't quite so bad if you don't really connect with your body; after all, it's simply clay for a surgeon to mold into a thick bimbo cheerleader slut who loves big black penises! You are not your body, your body is therefore not you, so why not let someone else fix you so you're one step closer to being Viktor from Arcane?

This is part of why there is such a fixation among trannies towards cyberpunk subjects and transhumanism as a whole - your mind is what's you, so your body matters little. It's really only once the morphine wears off and they can't even score Tylenol #3 anymore that they truly feel their bodies - right when their caverns cave in and their urinary tracts burn and swell with unemptied urine. Maybe The Lament Configuration is a better deal, actually.

Whew, that was long. Time for some laughs.

Charming-Tiger-8654
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Is this hypergranulation?​

Hello, wondering if the redder part of my rff graft site is just hyper granulation ..? It is smoother and less irritated looking as you can see in other areas of my arm and the inner arm is also super smooth. Will it all go down to normal levels in time? I am 5 months post op for reference.

Spoiler: Starting to understand why we're called long pork now.

When we last hear from Unusual-Name7773 back in September, she was trying to get her partner to derail life to be a caretaker. Safir did an excellent follow-up post that I advise you give a read as well. With that out of the way, let's see how things have panned out for her since.

Unusual-Name7773 (Dr. Peters at OHSU; shaft-only ALT w/no UL)
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4.5 months post op and still no tactile sensation​

I can’t reliably reproduce any tactile sensation in my dick yet and it’s really bumming me out. I will be honest, I’ve had a lot going on in my life and haven’t been consistent with the nerve rehab exercises, and I know I’m still early and need to be patient, but damn… I’m taking lion’s mane and magnesium, I have some erotic sensation but I’m not sure if that’s just psychological. I really really want tactile sensation, it’s always been my top priority, but I’m scared it will never come. My surgeon is Dr. Peters with OHSU, and I have stage 2 (glans, burial, scroto, possible slight debulking) scheduled next month. I worry that I did too much tugging too early in my recovery and somehow, idk, disconnected the nerves they harvested without knowing because I couldn’t feel it. I have no idea if it even works like that but that’s the type of shit I keep worrying about. I feel like I should have something by now. But I haven’t had any zapping sensations like what people describe. I might have some referred sensation near the base on the top left side but I’m not even completely sure about that.
Just venting. ALT, no UL

Spoiler: Very committed to keeping her 'dog afloat.

ShaiGaiKai (Drs. Chen, Watt, and Safa; RFF w/ UL)
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Hand Turning Purple When Stretching​

Hey guys!
I'm about 2 months post op, going on 3 months and my hand swelling has not really gone away after a certain point.
I just ordered my compression gloves so I hope that helps.
I have very little general discomfort and my arm is back to almost 100% in terms of strength and mobility. The issue is, when I try to do a push up or something that puts actual pressure on my wrist and hand, my hand straight up turns purple and white. Not really painful. It does go a little numb. But it kinda freaks me out. What if I start body building or olympic weightlifting again. Would purple mean my hand will fall off or get badly injured? Is purple hand a permanent side effect that is harmless?
Anyone else have similar issues? Does it ever go away or is just a thing?
Thank you all for your advice and time!

• Kai

And, well, hey - it's been a minute since we saw some top surgeries, so let's showcase some of those, too.

Longjumping_Lock_587
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How’re my scars looking?​

I’m about 2 months post op and I’ve been following the scar care routine my doctor recommended. Aquaphor massage then cover with silicone gel. I did notice stretch marks starting to show up on my left side and a good amount of tightness and pulling feeling on the spots near my armpit at the incision. My next appointment isn’t til March was just wondering what everyone else thinks. Am I on the right track or should I be concerned my scars are so wide and dark? Thank you!

Spoiler: Looking very cis, bro - super natural, dude.

Gothvomitt (Dr. Brodie Parent)
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3 weeks post-op!​

Hey everyone, thought I’d post another update. I’m currently three weeks post-op after double incision and I’m doing great! Besides some nipple graft rejection, the doc said I’m healing very well.
I’m working on putting together a sorta half my experience with top surgery half advice I have for others regarding top surgery(specifically other disabled and fat trans people). Is that something y’all would be interested in reading when I’m done with it? I can post it here if so.
As always feel free to ama or dm me!

Spoiler: I wonder if OP's anesthetist would operate on Julianna Aprileo.

 

[Paper Machete]

simply trends I've personally observed from being forced to share spaces with degenerates of both sexes

To add: in my personal view I think it's their character failings in other ways that make them susceptible to getting in the tranny trap. Do trannies use drugs a lot because they're trannies or are they trannies because they do drugs and it's baking their brain and increasing the likelihood of compulsively seeking out extreme and novel sexual stimulus? In my personal view I think being a tranny is a sort of end stage. They take these personality traits with them as they troon out.

"Wherever you go, there you are" is still true to trannies. Drug seeking, narcissistic behavior, being disorganized and unclean, it all remains the same. People don't like being honest about failings, even if doing so as soon as you recognize them would help you to get a handle on things before you reach rock bottom, so they likely do not articulate what they were like before. At least, not without heavy editorializing and making lots of excuses.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

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My bothers in Christ, have you ever needed scaffolding to prop up your little dood?

 

[Mad_Dog]

My bothers in Christ, have you ever needed scaffolding to prop up your little dood?

Have I ever hand sewn a woolen dick-cradle to carry my guy? Why, yes, yes I have. I've sewn a periwinkle one, a mauve one and a chartreuse one, as most men have.

 

[Deepland Bystander]

since this contains a chick with a mutilated genital area, i think it fits best in this thread..
straight porn a little bit differently kek

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This is my favourite kind of content, when troons and pooners are together it's beyond obvious which one is male and which is female.

This is part of why there is such a fixation among trannies towards cyberpunk subjects and transhumanism as a whole - your mind is what's you, so your body matters little. It's really only once the morphine wears off and they can't even score Tylenol #3 anymore that they truly feel their bodies - right when their caverns cave in and their urinary tracts burn and swell with unemptied urine. Maybe The Lament Configuration is a better deal, actually.

I think your theory has a lot of truth, from my experiences and it also makes 'touch grass' a genuine advice. Also with cyberpunk, troons always miss the melancholy of the genre. They just want the cool transhumanism bit without realising that the characters are exploited, their modifications always have some problems and there's a sense of loss in their unnatural body modifications... You can use cyberpunk to criticise troonism and they wouldn't bat an eye because they miss the point cyberpunk is trying to day

 

[UnfOrtuNatE BaskEtt]

Twitter. @CidPup. may be of interest to this thread....they is an EnBee AMAB...wot used to be a gay guy....wot has now had SRS to be a non-binary AMAB gay-man with a "pussy"....they is approaching a Buck Angel arrangement of their giblets and accessories - but approaching that status from the male side....this is they from they's X account, with a newly surgically-derived man-pussy and catheter and drainage bag. I am wondering if they will now need to have synthetic testosterone, having had they's balls removed. They had previously had they's cock n balls locked up in a restraint, and they appears to be into submissive roleplay. Like some Mrkn gay guys, they is happy to load stuff onto the internet so we can share in they's "journey"...which is kinda kewl (he actually seems like an ok person who just runs around in a harness in leather bars in Mrka) ...but......common sense, like the rules of English grammar, have been abandoned...discarded like a pair of unwanted testicles....

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[conodont]

GOOD AFTERNOON MUSLIMS!!!!

Spoiler: Daily dose

Spoiler: In case you've forgotten, here's what an actual vagina looks like

 

[Xrinxo910]

GOOD AFTERNOON MUSLIMS!!!!

Spoiler: Daily dose

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Spoiler: In case you've forgotten, here's what an actual vagina looks like

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Good God. Thumbnails, my guy. Use them.

 

[Mad_Dog]

GOOD AFTERNOON MUSLIMS!!!!

Auzubillah Min Sitinkiditsh Rajeem
Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim

I seek refuge in Allah from the accursed Stinkditch
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

 

[whotfsaidthat]

Twitter. @CidPup. may be of interest to this thread....they is an EnBee AMAB...wot used to be a gay guy....wot has now had SRS to be a non-binary AMAB gay-man with a "pussy"....they is approaching a Buck Angel arrangement of their giblets and accessories - but approaching that status from the male side....this is they from they's X account, with a newly surgically-derived man-pussy and catheter and drainage bag. I am wondering if they will now need to have synthetic testosterone, having had they's balls removed. They had previously had they's cock n balls locked up in a restraint, and they appears to be into submissive roleplay. Like some Mrkn gay guys, they is happy to load stuff onto the internet so we can share in they's "journey"...which is kinda kewl (he actually seems like an ok person who just runs around in a harness in leather bars in Mrka) ...but......common sense, like the rules of English grammar, have been abandoned...discarded like a pair of unwanted testicles....View attachment 6795656

the interesting thing about these gay enby/nullo dudes is, that theyre actually happy afterwards. like i havent seen one with a rotpocket which theyve had issues with. what could be the reason? i think its fascinating.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

Time for some laughs.

That "peen sling" rotdog support platform and its matchy belt crocheted in retina burning turquoise was simply >chef's kiss<.

Wildly un-self-conscious pooner crafts is one of my favorite things.

Spoiler: A bit OT

I can just imagine a group of Doods getting together on a regular baisis to crochet their peen slings and other manly pooner accessories in each other's homes. Energy drinks and cookies will be served. The merits of "tactical" black yarn will be politely debated.

I really really want tactile sensation, it’s always been my top priority, but I’m scared it will never come.

Yeah, about that... what exactly did the Doc say? (Dr. Peters? Really? I looked him up and recognized him right away- he's that He/They pink haired demon with the praying mantis vibe.)

I worry that I did too much tugging too early in my recovery and somehow, idk, disconnected the nerves they harvested without knowing because I couldn’t feel it. I have no idea if it even works like that but that’s the type of shit I keep worrying about.

True to fem brained form, she's wondering if her lack of sensation is due to something that she inadvertently did.