Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.8%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 55 12.1%
  • This Year

    Votes: 72 15.9%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 152 33.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 108 23.8%

  • Total voters
    454
I am just waiting for this judge to take that one step to far
The primary issue here is less the judge's fault, and more the American legal system in general where the process becomes the punishment and retards are completely able to use the legal system maliciously without blowback. It's the weird thing where it might be one of the few cases that there is too much freedom in the system, and it needs to be dialed down somehow, either through easier means of retaliation for bullshit, or a dramatic increase in the judge's ability to exercise review.

Any fix require exponentially more judges and court staff however, and thus more money, so don't expect it ever to be fixed, only continuously broken in new and interesting ways.
 
I dont know what Russell expected when this case was moved into discovery, but this certainly wasn't it.
Russ is being forced to confront why civil suits are frequently settled, why the courts often encourage parties to settle instead of going to discovery or taking things to trial, and indeed, why the contractual terms for the many interactions a person will have with almost any corporation require binding arbitration in place of any right to civil suit. Civil suits, discovery in particular, can get very expensive, very quickly. The legal kiwis in this thread probably know better than I do, but I have heard of discovery costs alone in larger, more complex lawsuits getting into hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions of dollars when it comes to retarded slapfights between large corporations. Most cases probably aren't that bad, but if there is a lot of relevant evidence, and it is going to take a lot of work to collect and organize it all, well, that's more billable hours of work.

Discovery has barely even begun in this case, and already cost thousands of dollars, per the exhibits in Hardin's most recent filing. What Russ is either unwilling or too retarded to appreciate, is by digging in his heels and refusing to comply, not only is he causing Hardin to rack up billable hours, he is making an ever stronger case for the court to order this case dismissed, and even order Russ to pay Hardin's fees instead of Dear Feeder.

In this latest filing, we see Russ plightsperging in emails to Hardin about the extra work involved in keeping up with all of Hardin's communicaitons and motion practice. I suppose now would be a good time to remind Russ that if it is just too much to keep up with the work required to move the suit forward, defendants would be happy to accept his voluntary dismissal, with prejudice, at any time.
 
Civil suits, discovery in particular, can get very expensive, very quickly. The legal kiwis in this thread probably know better than I do, but I have heard of discovery costs alone in larger, more complex lawsuits getting into hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions of dollars when it comes to retarded slapfights between large corporations.
These multi-billion dollar corporations could learn a thing or 6 from legal mastermind Greer. Just label anything your opponent prompts you to produce as irrelevant. Check and mate.
 
Something I forgot to ask, in one of Russ's filings he says that he agreed to the stipulation of no witnesses but didn't on any evidence. I dont remember the exact wording but it was the opening line of one of his main point paragraphs. Now assuming he actually had something he could pretend is evidence how would he even be able to introduce evidence during trial without witnesses?
 
Ok so has the court actually seen any of the filings since Russ spazzed out and committed a crime by telling his family not to comply with hardin?
Probably not in any official capacity. It’s the holidays. Don’t expect any work to be done until at least January 2. Someone may have briefly read the filings but I guarantee no work has been done.
 
Probably not in any official capacity. It’s the holidays. Don’t expect any work to be done until at least January 2. Someone may have briefly read the filings but I guarantee no work has been done.
The judge is probably writing a sua sponte appeal to have the original judge unrecused. It is a lolsuit after all.
 
Russ is being forced to confront why civil suits are frequently settled, why the courts often encourage parties to settle instead of going to discovery or taking things to trial

The thing is, he has already made it clear that he would LOVE to settle:

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But as Hardin has ever-so-politely pointed out, we are well past that point:
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Any fix require exponentially more judges and court staff however, and thus more money, so don't expect it ever to be fixed, only continuously broken in new and interesting ways.

An obvious and easy fix would be to make the loser pay the other side's costs. Some of these boneheaded pro se cunts might be a little bit less litigious if they knew that the outcome was likely to be a lien on their paycheque for the rest of eternity.

Discovery has barely even begun in this case, and already cost thousands of dollars, per the exhibits in Hardin's most recent filing.

Greer has no good reason to care about any of this. None of it is costing him anything.
 
As in two simultaneously cases against one website? Mr Greer's Wild Ride never ends.
Claims and cases are two entirely different things.
Ok so has the court actually seen any of the filings since Russ spazzed out and committed a crime by telling his family not to comply with hardin?
The clerk has. The judge might have glanced at it (the court was open from the day after Christmas onward), but I have no way to say whether he read it at all or not.
Something I forgot to ask, in one of Russ's filings he says that he agreed to the stipulation of no witnesses but didn't on any evidence. I dont remember the exact wording but it was the opening line of one of his main point paragraphs.
Here is the stipulation:

Here is his summary of it in his own words:
 
So for potential sanctions, assuming the Judge doesn't let him off from all of this with a slap on the wrist and wag of his finger, let's say Hardin gets the Judge to award them like $3K in fees for the last couple weeks of fuckery. Would Greer have to start paying that immediately or would he argue that he won't pay till the end of the case since he thinks he's gonna get $600K in statutory damages?
 
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