Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Ah, the continuance fairy’s been again. At least we left a mince pie and a carrot for her this time.

 

[Lian Xing]

>this fucking thread proceeds to have to have a meltdown about it

The meltdowns are the best part of this whole thing.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Ah, the continuance fairy’s been again. At least we left a mince pie and a carrot for her this time.

She put them in the fridge for later.

 

[SCRAM]

Well if this is going to August surely Greer will have had Null, Hardin and all the users of this site arrested before then.

 

[LiquidChrisRespecter]

Hardin ultimately has to proceed as though this case will eventually reach a conclusion if the "case-ending sanctions" aren't brought.

I see no issue with him allowing himself the maximum amount of time possible to get all of his ducks in a row if the day in court ever comes. Russ will rue the day he ever tried to fuck with such a well-oiled relentless and thorough opponent.

If somehow Russ doesn't get put on the naughty step by the judge and everybody is forced to sit through a trial where all of his "evidence" is irrelevant and inadmissable, this could easily be one of the most expensive and embarrassing days of our little whoremonger's life. That's quite a feat for a living abomination whose life is a neverending series of embarrassments.

 

[RodgerDodger]

There's two tracks in this case right now running in parallel.

The normal track, case moves forward, discovery, routine motions for extensions, etc.

The retard track, where all the shit flinging is happening, requests for sanctions, etc.

Eventually, track two can derail track one, but until then the parties and court need to treat the other part of the case as any other and keep it progressing forward.

The problem is and has been the Plaintiff is off the rails.

 

[RussianParasite]

>this fucking thread proceeds to have to have a meltdown about it

I want everything about Russel Greer ON THE INTERNET! I’ll send in detectives! I’ll send in Hardin! I’ll do everything IN MY POWER! So yeah, please, get everything on the Internet NOW NOW NOWW NOOW NOWWWWW!

A senior prank where he had anxiety issues.

Lol him having to submit evidence that he’s been a societal pest since he was a minor really chaps his ass. My bet is he’s going to leave out some key cases like the e-stalking and restraining orders.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Lol him having to submit evidence that he’s been a societal pest since he was a minor really chaps his ass. My bet is he’s going to leave out some key cases like the e-stalking and restraining orders.

If Russ has moved on since those issues they are not deemed as admissible into evidence by his standards. Russell cannot be prosecuted or punished for things he has done in the past, everyone else on the planet can, though.

 

[obsdj]

If Russ has moved on since those issues they are not deemed as admissible into evidence by his standards. Russell cannot be prosecuted or punished for things he has done in the past, everyone else on the planet can, though.

Remember after the Afghanistan withdrawal, when George Snuffleupagus was interviewing Biden and asked him how he felt when he saw the videos of people desperately clinging to the planes trying to get out? And Biden replied, "That was four days ago! Five days ago!" so indignant, like it was offensive and how absolutely dare you undig up stuff from the distant past like that to throw in his face? That's what this reminds me of.

 

[Malcolm X]

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But as Hardin has ever-so-politely pointed out, we are well past that point:
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It endlessly amuses me that Russ, who graduated from a paralegal program, has less understanding of the American legal system than anyone who has seen a single episode of Law & Order.

Also, I know I'm late and gay and there are much bigger things to laugh at, but dadgummit it does annoy me that Russ, in his totally grown-up legal-jitsu lawyerin' emails, addresses Hardin as "Matthew". Christ, even the meanie trolls here at Kiwi Farms, a website know not to do that, especially in writing and in (at least potentially) legal documents. Reminds me of an old professor I had in grad school who once got an email from a student that began with "Hi, Paul."* This prof was pretty well known for, let us say, rather cutting remarks, and seeing the smile on his face when he told us this story, I imagine he must have lit up that student in his reply, poor norm-transgressing bastard.

*Actual name changed to avoid PL.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Remember after the Afghanistan withdrawal, when George Snuffleupagus was interviewing Biden and asked him how he felt when he saw the videos of people desperately clinging to the planes trying to get out? And Biden replied, "That was four days ago! Five days ago!" so indignant, like it was offensive and how absolutely dare you undig up stuff from the distant past like that to throw in his face? That's what this reminds me of.

I kiiiiiinda see what you're saying. But the difference is the complexity and depth of the circumstances. Pulling your soldiers out of a 3rd world hellhole to bring them home was going to catch flak either way you slice it in the vein of 'why were you ever there/what took you so long to leave?'
Russ feels that stalking a woman he fancies despite repeated attempts from the woman to tell him to fuck off is reasonable, even an expected step of courting her. He felt telling her he'll kill himself on her doorstep to punish her was reasonable, a perfectly normal response to the circumstances. He thought making a kill list in a school, which is always going to be a hot button issue was a funny prank because he's just a silly dude. He thought suing Taylor Swift, Ariana, etc. Was a perfectly valid avenue to gain the attention and respect of the object of his desire. Why, I frequently sue the women I want to marry, everyone does it!
Now that he knows these are all retarded things and that being a boisterous retard negatively impacts your ability to announce that, yes, I AM Russell Greer of a certain level of notoriety. He isn't Russell Greer, the man who seduced Taylor Swift and Defender of Brothels. He is Russell Greer, Actual Retard. In his mind his past is irrelevant and shouldn't be brought up, even though it shows a well established pattern of behavior. That doesn't matter! What matters is what YOU did to HIM. This is not a two way street!
To this day he will not admit he did anything wrong ever, it's never his fault and people only view him negatively because of the trolls and the bias judges and the negative press.
That is to say, Biden had clearly had it with questions that suck because there was no way to come out of that looking good. Russell is just indignant that people know of his past, not that he did those things.

 

[Harm]

He knows what he's doing. He wants to waste as much time and money as possible so that even if he doesn't win, Null still loses. He will do everything in his power to approach getting sanctioned by the judge while still avoiding any real consequences (such as covering the defense's legal fees). The endgame isn't to win the lawsuit or see it end, the endgame is to cost Null as much time and money as possible.

He didn't go from failing to send his dad and brother's names and phone numbers until two hours past the deadline in the dead of night to filing full-fledged responses citing case law on time one-after-another by accident. He knows that everyone, including those who hate him, will chalk up his failure to comply to "he's just too retarded to do anything right and he's trying his best!" when it's truly malfeasance. That's why he'll declare he's doing his best when he's a contemptuous sack of shit who has no respect for anyone or anything, not even his own family.

Even Chris Chan, a man who had trolls gaslight him into believing he's a woman and tried to give himself a vagina by slicing his taint open, is capable of malice and deceit to get his way. There's no intellectual barrier to acting selfishly, maliciously, and in bad faith to get your own way. Especially when it's seemingly worked this far for Greer.

 

[reactionary]

just eight more months guys and it'll all be over come on just eight more months only eight more and we will win just eight more months...........

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

Oh, to be a fly in on the wall of the police station as they explain to the drooling, wailing retard that 1) the Kiwi Farms posters aren't Null and 2) it isn't stalking or harassment to laugh at your publicly avaliable online posts and past legal shenanigans. The inhuman pipsqueak thinks he's the only one to ever go to the police for people laughing at them online, and thinks if he squeaks enough the police will arrest mean old Null, but Null isn't a gross greasy idiot like Russell is, and nothing he or we have done is illegal.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Any sanctions less then Greer receiving electric shocks to the balls until he can form a full smile will be too lenient imo

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

even the meanie trolls here at Kiwi Farms, a website know not to do that, especially in writing and in (at least potentially) legal documents

yeah, always use professional and polite greetings like "What's good, nigga?" or "What's crack-a-lackin', homeboy?"

 

[AnOminous]

The legal kiwis in this thread probably know better than I do, but I have heard of discovery costs alone in larger, more complex lawsuits getting into hundreds of thousands of dollars, or even millions of dollars when it comes to retarded slapfights between large corporations.

I'd imagine most lawfags here have experienced the glory of "document review." Discovery between megacorporations having a tard fight often involve things like dozens of requests for production, each of which require reviewing literally millions of documents depending on the size of the corporations and the scope of the dispute. These can't be done by laypeople, since it constitutes the "practice of law," so every single person of the dozens of people doing it has to be an actual licensed attorney (I think this has been slightly relaxed).

You're not going to be paying named partners to do this, so anyone fresh out of law school at a certain time probably did lots and lots of this early in their career unless they graduated right into some white shoe firm. It's also not unknown for solos and others whose billables fluctuate wildly to pick up a few bucks doing some of this.

So just for discovery you may have a whole team of newly minted lawyers each getting something like $50-100 an hour (probably higher now) for hundreds of hours, never mind overtime for tight deadlines, then the doc review company's overhead on top of that, and that's if things are going smoothly.

If disputes arise, and they will, the costs and fees immediately spike. While the automatic fee-shifting provisions of discovery disputes discourage taking most of these in front of a judge, just the cost of engaging in sabre rattling over it for months can be ridiculously costly.

And note this is just stuff like requests for production, one of those FRCP 26 "initial disclosure" things. After that, it really starts to get hairy.

Russhole has all of ONE Request for Production, and look at him squalling like a little bitch over it. It doesn't even involve a massive search. The AGT guys already did most of the work for him.

 

[StinkySnack]

The endgame isn't to win the lawsuit or see it end, the endgame is to cost Null as much time and money as possible.

I'm very surprised that Hardin never brought the following post of Russell's to the judges attention, where he flat out states that the point of the suit is to bankrupt Null:

 

[FamicomGorby]

Russhole has all of ONE Request for Production, and look at him squalling like a little bitch over it. It doesn't even involve a massive search. The AGT guys already did most of the work for him.

Much like Chris Chan's vision of a mayor was someone who just sat on their ass doing nothing while people around them did work, I get the impression Greer had a similar idea of what lawyers do from TV and movies. Also in his eyes, why should he have to do work when it's Null who's wronged him and he's already won?

My bet is Greer submits nothing and says that he just deleted everything, wiped his computer and emails off with a cloth.

I'm very surprised that Hardin never brought the following post of Russell's to the judges attention, where he flat out states that the point of the suit is to bankrupt Null:

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Might come up later if the Judge awards fees. Greer will just say it was a funny goof.

 

[Bridgeburner]

>Hardin asks something of the Judge
>Judge grants it
>this fucking thread proceeds to have to have a meltdown about it

Judge could have followed up on this threats about case-ending sanctions after reading filing after filing of insanity, libel against defense attorneys, not producing any witnesses, not complying with rules, not meeting deadlines...