Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 66 14.6%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 55 12.1%
  • This Year

    Votes: 72 15.9%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 152 33.6%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 108 23.8%

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    453
Getting your dick sucked by a prostitute is not typically considered to be a fundamental human right.
Are you trying to deny Greer his fundamental human right to love and affection?

So just for discovery you may have a whole team of newly minted lawyers each getting something like $50-100 an hour (probably higher now) for hundreds of hours, never mind overtime for tight deadlines, then the doc review company's overhead on top of that, and that's if things are going smoothly.
And in larger cases, that team of fresh lawyers probably also have a number of paralegals working support functions. Those paralegals are also going to have to get paid, and that's only going to add to discovery costs.

I'm very surprised that Hardin never brought the following post of Russell's to the judges attention, where he flat out states that the point of the suit is to bankrupt Null:

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Russel Greer said:
I have attorneys representing me against said website and we are confident we can bankrupt the owner
I wonder now, is that something that Russ wanted originally, or some tale the DJF told him to string him along while they used him to get a appellate precedent favorable to their interests?

I never did document review like that (just went straight to shingle-hanging because no-one was hiring when I graduated/passed the bar), but I recall hearing stories about malicious compliance in production, like having delivery trucks show up unannounced and wheeling in rooms' worth of bankers boxes filled with deliberately mixed-up out-of-order papers that were largely irrelevant to the case.
Greer wishes he had the cunning to play the malicious compliance game with a bunch of dump-truck discovery.
This can backfire because it is not unknown for the dump truck discovery response to include numerous smoking guns that they weren't planning on but later become relevant.
I have little doubt that if he tried such malicious compliance as dump truck discovery, exactly this would happen.
 
They reviewed December fully per my request and there is still nothing
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Thanks and I apologize, when you said you were posting with Hardin's permission I thought it was he who made the inquiries.

One last question: In his filing, he said it was "the witnesses" who called the police to perform a welfare check, and in this case "the witnesses" are Scott and Nathan Greer. Those are the names you requested? And it has to include addresses (per @Malcolm X's comment above it sounded like the address is optional if you have the caller name)?
 
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Thanks and I apologize, when you said you were posting with Hardin's permission I thought it was he who made the inquiries.
"On information and belief (with evidence to be provided to Mr. Hardin), Russell Greer lied about the welfare check his parents supposedly called on him."

I specifically quoted this post to provide the context of what I am talking about. Mr. Hardin is not leaking anything through me, nor have I asked him to.
One last question: In his filing, he said it was "the witnesses" who called the police to perform a welfare check, and in this case "the witnesses" are Scott and Nathan Greer. Those are the names you requested?
At the risk of repeating myself; yes, I mentioned the names of the Greers as they were his witnesses.
And it has to include addresses (per @Malcolm X's comment above it sounded like the address is optional if you have the caller name)?
Are you just asking general questions, or is there a purpose to this?
 
I specifically quoted this post to provide the context of what I am talking about. Mr. Hardin is not leaking anything through me, nor have I asked him to.

At the risk of repeating myself; yes, I mentioned the names of the Greers as they were his witnesses.

Are you just asking general questions, or is there a purpose to this?

Unclench, I already apologized. And you did say:
all information I had regarding any party that may have made those calls (namely, as Russ claims, his parents)

"His parents" are not the witnesses; one parent and a sibling are. And as far as addresses, I was just trying to clarify whether you had to include addresses in your inquiry or not, since a broad search for calls from anybody named Greer (including the brother) without specifying an address would seem to cast the widest net, that's all.
 
You're probably not ready to hear some Real Talk™️ about Santa Claus, are you? We'll have to save that for another day.
I'll break the news for him. Santa Claus is Odin after he rebranded and the thing about the reindeer is made up to explain Sleipnir's eight legs. Marketing also thought it was funny that reindeer rhymes with Sleipnir.
 
"His parents" are not the witnesses; one parent and a sibling are.
Yes, and as indicated I provided all the information I had. "Parents" was a shorthand. I suppose witnesses would have been a better choice. My bad.
And as far as addresses, I was just trying to clarify whether you had to include addresses in your inquiry or not, since a broad search for calls from anybody named Greer (including the brother) without specifying an address would seem to cast the widest net, that's all.
You don't always want the widest net for several reasons including increasingly high false negatives; the authorities hate or don't always honor vaguely broad requests, and depending on the information sought (and the cataloging type) you will have just provided irrelevant info. They might also charge you out the ass for any such request they honor.

I wished to confirm whether a specific incident occurred, and I gave them all the information needed to make sure they had the easiest (and most correct) search to confirm whether that incident occurred.

To specifically answer your question (and I apologize for my strong response before) it is possible I could have gotten the correct result without any addresses (though it is much easier to judge a positive result than a negative one). It is equally as likely that I could have gotten a false negative if Greer's witnesses misidentified themselves, didn't identify themselves, or were incorrectly noted.
You didn’t search his true and honest parent, one Patrick S Tomlinson.
Federal umbrella, my good friend, federal umbrella
 
The exhibits attached to doc 205 did a pretty good job of laying that out I think.
The exhibits are what we're going nuts about, not the extension itself. The court looked at those exhibits, shrugged, and granted the extension.

I'm sure Hardin will be referencing them in future arguments about sanctions, but then he's asking the Court has to go back and re-consider them while Greer squeals that "I conferred and he got the extension therefore no harm done".
 
>Hardin asks something of the Judge
>Judge grants it
>this fucking thread proceeds to have to have a meltdown about it
I just want the judge to get a big spike, spear the greer end to end and start roasting a big ugly moebius syndrome turkey roast inside of the courthouse.
is that too much to ask?
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real question: were russell’s stupid fucking book in part at the heart of this issue to be entered as discovery, would it help to compare the book to his numerous public lawsuits? he essentially tells the tale, sometimes with word-for-word verbiage, of his plights in nearly ALL of his other lawsuits. the only things not in his lawsuits that are in the book is all the shit he made up or embellished. he made his own story public through using the court as a livejournal over half a dozen times. the vast majority of his book is available in court documents, again often word-for-word replication. the book was a much lesser attempt to make money off his “story” than he thought any one of his lawsuits would.

someone brought up the record of russell’s high school arrest. to my knowledge, the only one who got their hands on those dox was nick cokesnot rekeita, he posted a video going over them in detail, but did not otherwise share them to my recollection.
 
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