Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Ghostse]

That was the online nickname of the unnamed Jedi minifigure from the Republic gunship set back when Episode 2 came out. He got the name Bob because he looks so generic. It’s a nice homage to the 25 years of Lego Star Wars.

The set is also from the the Lego Starwars What-If series so meant to be cheeky and fourth-wall breaking.
I dunno, Lego animated stuff is aimed squarely at children, clearly intended to not be canon, and is made by people who actually like fun and star wars so while some of its really stupid I just can't bring myself to get mad about it.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

The total cost of the first 6 films was like 406 million. Disney is a fucking leaky pipe just pissing money away and/or laundering like @Mr. Racewar1488 said

Fucking a, Attack of the Clones looks ten times better than all of both Disney Wars post-Endgame MCU. And that cost just $113 million dollars back in 2002.

 

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Attack of the Clones in today's money is about $200 million.

In today's money, the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy cost $475 mil.

I recall Andor's production level been pretty high. So the real head scratch is the Acolyte being so shit. As Star Wars man has been saying recently, why is that getting so much money and shows people want like Kenobi are given a shit treatment and much lower budgets?

For the others, the use of the volume is started to get a bit dull and flat looking. I suspect at first they were trying really hard, now they're used to doing it less time and effort is put into how the shot looks.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Attack of the Clones in today's money is about $200 million.

In today's money, the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy cost $475 mil.

I recall Andor's production level been pretty high. So the real head scratch is the Acolyte being so shit. As Star Wars man has been saying recently, why is that getting so much money and shows people want like Kenobi are given a shit treatment and much lower budgets?

For the others, the use of the volume is started to get a bit dull and flat looking. I suspect at first they were trying really hard, now they're used to doing it less time and effort is put into how the shot looks.

Hell, even Davy Jones from the Pirates sequels and the first Bayformers look a lot better than today’s movies.

2000s cinema in general had better cgi in my opinion because it was used to enhance the practical effects. I think some of the reasons CGI has fallen hard is when Disney bought ILM when they bought Lucasfilm in 2012.

 

[King Dead]

Hell, even Davy Jones from the Pirates sequels and the first Bayformers look a lot better than today’s movies.

2000s cinema in general had better cgi in my opinion because it was used to enhance the practical effects. I think some of the reasons CGI has fallen hard is when Disney bought ILM when they bought Lucasfilm in 2012.

Even setting aside how overworked VFX artists have become in churning out the latest Disney slop (not helped by retarded producers who order constant changes without understanding that just because it's on a computer doesn't mean it's quick or easy to redo), I think more people are starting to realize that even the best CGI simply can't hold a candle to something that's real. Seeing real actors performing real stunts on real sets with real effects going off around them helps immerse you much better than a CGI wankfest. It also helps get better performances out of your actors when they actually know what they're playing off of, as opposed to standing in front of a greenscreen and having to do their best to figure out where CGI characters will eventually be composited in.

But more than that, CGI just isn't impressive anymore. Over the years they kept upping the spectacle, having more things on screen and layering more effects on top, until eventually you had massive sequences of thousands of individual models to make people get excited. But they reached a point of diminishing returns, where adding another hundred or thousand things on screen really doesn't make a difference to the spectacle. And when you've seen one gigantic CGI fight, you quickly realize you've seen them all.

That's not to say that practical effects will guarantee a production turns out great, or that CGI isn't still a valuable tool in a filmmaker's arsenal. But I think studios would stand to benefit from the realization that it's just that: a tool, not a replacement for good filmmaking. When you have Disney filming a scene of two characters in a bar in front of a greenscreen for literally no reason, you know shit's gone more than a bit too far.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

I recall Andor's production level been pretty high. So the real head scratch is the Acolyte being so shit. As Star Wars man has been saying recently, why is that getting so much money and shows people want like Kenobi are given a shit treatment and much lower budgets?

Agenda. Kenobi is just fanservice for Prequel fanboys, whereas Andor is for the Antifas while Acolyte is for the Wiccans who want to get seduced by demons and other evil forces.

Star Wars' current property holders value the latter over the former, obviously. To the point where fanservice shows like the Mandalorian declined in popularity because not enough attention was paid to tard-wrangling the writers to make sure they're writing something people would actually like.

I mean, if Mando S3 just had 8 episodes of Moff Gustavo gallivanting around the galaxy, playing space Game of Thrones and killing shit, that would've made them more money and kept the franchise popular. Instead, they allowed Filoni to go all TCW Filler Arc on that crap. Which works for a 20-episode season of a cartoon show, not for an 8-episode season for a live-action series.

Then they doubled-down on Ahsoka, which basically meant that it was more TCW/Rebels filler even though the runtime was just 8 episodes again, so the first season wound up being a whole load of nothing. They should've at least had 16 episodes, or Thrawn should've been brought back in episode 4 or 5, so that he could have some time to play power games with the New Republic and the other Imperials in the Shadow Council.

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Then they doubled-down on Ahsoka, which basically meant that it was more TCW/Rebels filler even though the runtime was just 8 episodes again, so the first season wound up being a whole load of nothing. They should've at least had 16 episodes, or Thrawn should've been brought back in episode 4 or 5, so that he could have some time to play power games with the New Republic and the other Imperials in the Shadow Council.

I would watch the hell of a Star Wars show focusing on the Imperial Warlords feuding with each other for power while the New Republic tries to keep them from uniting.

I think Skeletion Crew is likely the best season of a live action Star Wars show if it sticks the landing

 

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I mean, if Mando S3 just had 8 episodes of Moff Gustavo gallivanting around the galaxy, playing space Game of Thrones and killing shit, that would've made them more money and kept the franchise popular. Instead, they allowed Filoni to go all TCW Filler Arc on that crap. Which works for a 20-episode season of a cartoon show, not for an 8-episode season for a live-action series.

Mando s3 really did feel like they wrote the treatment for the plot and then Filoni crammed in his side episodes and all it did was disrupt the larger story which was then rushed.

Why they stick with 8 episodes is odd.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Here’s a video containing all of the lightsaber fights from the Complete Saga. No Disney videos where the lightsabers are mistaken as laser bats.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

i love those prequels reviews and think the prequels suck and thus agree with the majority of what rlm say, but i will never forgive them for making lightsaber fights boring with their complaining that "new fights suck because theyre not geriatric like the old fights"

 

[Gondolindrim]

I'm late on this next one: Remember that Clone Wars finale movie/season, Siege of Mandalore? I found myself thinking about it and I realized that the sole purpose for it's existence is for Filoni to "justify" why all his OCs and pet characters aren't dead by episode 3. It's basically just official fanfiction, that's why 16 year old Ahsoka and deranged, extremely OOC Maul are both somehow so in the know about Palpatine taking over the Republic. And of course Bo-Katan, all his precious mandos and favorite clones are in it too.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

What if...

Star Wars galactic history is in the future...

and in this galaxy...

and it's in the "Dark Age of Technology"...

and the Force is tapping into the Immaterium (with "Midi-chlorians")?

 

[Male Idiot]

What if...

Star Wars galactic history is in the future...

and in this galaxy...

and it's in the "Dark Age of Technology"...

and the Force is tapping into the Immaterium (with "Midi-chlorians")?

Star Wars is closest to canon was somewhere in the second millenium, where Indiana Jones and Chewbacca's lifespan connected.
So SW movies happen sometimes in the 17-19th century, with Chewbacca surviving long enough to be called Bigfoot.

That, and there is the different galactic geography and no elves in space. Do you really want Darth Vect? He would be twice as much of a ballbag he already is!

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Sad that everyone forgotten the "long time ago" in a galaxy far, far away opening crawl.

 

[Male Idiot]

Long time ago could mean a few hundred years ago. To the Euro it means 6 gorillion years, but to a red blooded American Hippie like George, a few centuries is a long long time.

This would explain the easter egg about ET and Yoda. To ET, Yoda would be like to us Napoleon or Columbus, recognisable enough historical figure. Before Disney made Luke into TDS Hamill who never talked about the Jedi at any rate.

I wonder what the future explorers of India will think when they stumble upon a Trump shrine.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

I had the mandela effect while rewatching Phantom Menace with three scenes I never noticed.

1. A first person view of C-3PO looking at Anakin as he is preparing to leave with Qui Gon. I never noticed it until now.

2. Maul standing next to Nute Gunray and Rune Haako while they watch the Naboo fighting back against the Droid army. This was right before they fought to the hangar and Anakin hid in one of the Nanoo fighter jets. I remember that scene roundly but I never knew Maul was standing next to them.

3. Right before Qui Gon ran into Jar Jar, I noticed that some of the Naboo animals fleeing from the Trade Federation some crushed by the collapsing trees.

I have a feeling I’ll have mandela effects when I continue rewatching the complete saga. I’m definitely not watching the What If trilogy again because I know they’ll be way worse than I remembered.

 

[Screamer_2]

That's why it's fun to revist things now and then. Especially things you think you know really well but haven't seen in a long time. There's plenty of stuff you have forgotten. Things sometimes unfold slightly differently than you remember. You spot things you never noticed before. Or did you forget about them? You also see things and remembe that you did remember it but forgot.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Another thing I noticed on my rewatch of Phantom Menace on the 2011 Blu Ray set is that the Fox logo has a blue tint on it while the others have the dark purple tint that was plastered on the older logos.

I’m aware the newer prints have restored the Fox logo without “a News Corporation company” byline. Apparently the newer and stupider 20th Century Studios logo now appears on the recent theatrical rereleases of ROTJ and TPM.

 

[Registration]

3 weeks late but I watched this video and the dude came out with receipts to BTFO RLM.

https://youtu.be/OkW035f_hZ8?si=ZhonrBPTLp13G0ap

Man, sourcing stuff and showcasing the context of the object absolutely works for both science and youtuber bullshit.

 

[Male Idiot]

3. Right before Qui Gon ran into Jar Jar, I noticed that some of the Naboo animals fleeing from the Trade Federation some crushed by the collapsing trees.

The Jar Jar scenes are the best parts.