African-American Appreciation Thread - Highlighting contributions from our most productive citizens

i fully believe that it's possible for a "human" (under out vast defenition of 'human') race to have a language lacking in any and all complexity of even the simplest degree
of all the chimps that have been taught sign language, none of them have actually learned any kind of complexity to our knowladge- there are plenty of people insisting that various animals have spoken long and complex, almost human sounding, statements. koko the gorilla's last speech was supposedly about the dangers of global warming how convinient but the recording seems to be cut up and pasted together and appears as if there's someone behind the camera telling her what gestures to make. the longest recorded UN ALTERED sentence ever spoken by a chimp was just them repeatedly asking for food again and again with no connective words whatsoever

it's not unlikely that a very simple human race who's everyday social affairs, as well as thinking abilities as a whole, don't go much further than "me eat, hold rock, animal there" could exist
There’s a co called Toki Pona that’s a modern attempt to create this. The whole language only has about 140 words in it.
 
Always a good read, and it hits the same notes as the "confessions of a public defender" article. Shame accounts like these are relatively hard to come by, though. At least ones that don't just equate it all to racism and oppression.

Reminds me of the YT video of the language scientist who started researching African languages and found they lacked words for exacting measuring ie general no words for numbers past what can be counted on a hand, no words for future or hypothetical ideas, basically anything that has to do with abstract thinking and planning past what happens in the extreme present, they have no concept of.
 
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having actually watched the video now, the funniest part about it is the guy that triggered the 911 call was the chillest dude there, meanwhile everyone else is screaming their heads off. Dude was like "get me the fuck OUT" :lit:
 
Fucking niggers man...
Thing is, niggers are prone to anger if they are thrown off by a situation, even if there is no hostility involved on your part. I have two examples from my own experiences:

A nigger once asked me what he needed to do to open up a restaurant. I started listing things and he started getting upset. What he actually wanted to do was brag about how good his brisket and coleslaw recipes were. Once he talked about how he prepared his brisket, he was smiling and laughing n’ sheeeit where two minutes prior it seemed like he wanted to come to blows because I said he’d get random visits from a food inspector.

Another nigger who was my Uber driver told me he wanted to either be a semi truck driver or a welder. So we started talking about it until he did a 180 and got pissy. He never put much thought into being either and didn’t want to get into specifics. These were just vague goals he thought he’d want to do someday and that was it.

Never help niggers out. They don’t help each other out and the concept of randoms taking an interest in what they do is so unusual to them that their fight or flight defenses kick in.
 
Regarding language and African descent, I recall watching some boring documentary in school about some specific sub Saharan village or something. The narrator describes them as very quick and adapting learners speaking 3 languages by age 12. moments later in this documentary it's revealed on a quest for potable water a man must go to 2 other locations nearby and speak in the other two languages. I will never recall the exact phonetic of the word he used for "water" but, the "entirely different languages" contained almost phonetically identical words. He asks he neighbor do have any potable "unquessa?" No? travels to another village where they speak an "entirely different language" do you have any "anquessa"? No? the next village do you have any potable "umquessa"?

I'm making these words up but, it was unquessa anquessa, umquessa. And the documentary acts like it's some entirely different language they should be credited with mastering. It sounded like the equivalent of some guy from inner city Boston USA talking to some guy from the southern England area. Yes, they are going to phrase and pronounce the word "water" differently, the guy from Boston might make it sound like it should be spelled "watah" but it's NOT an entirely different language. The fucking cope alone when people tried to get "Ebonics" officially recognized as a language was fucking retarded.
 
There’s a co called Toki Pona that’s a modern attempt to create this. The whole language only has about 140 words in it.

Toki Pona, a language created by western nerds, extensively uses metaphor and recursion. Just because a language is grammatically simple or has a limited vocabulary doesn’t make it unga bunga. Only the brains of the people speaking it can.

Regarding language and African descent, I recall watching some boring documentary in school about some specific sub Saharan village or something. The narrator describes them as very quick and adapting learners speaking 3 languages by age 12. moments later in this documentary it's revealed on a quest for potable water a man must go to 2 other locations nearby and speak in the other two languages. I will never recall the exact phonetic of the word he used for "water" but, the "entirely different languages" contained almost phonetically identical words. He asks he neighbor do have any potable "unquessa?" No? travels to another village where they speak an "entirely different language" do you have any "anquessa"? No? the next village do you have any potable "umquessa"?

I'm making these words up but, it was unquessa anquessa, umquessa. And the documentary acts like it's some entirely different language they should be credited with mastering. It sounded like the equivalent of some guy from inner city Boston USA talking to some guy from the southern England area. Yes, they are going to phrase and pronounce the word "water" differently, the guy from Boston might make it sound like it should be spelled "watah" but it's NOT an entirely different language. The fucking cope alone when people tried to get "Ebonics" officially recognized as a language was fucking retarded.

No, people in Africa legit sometimes speak a shitton of languages. Watch “Empire of Dust” — the translator dude speaks several Congolese languages, French, Mandarin Chinese, Swahili, English, etc.

I think it’s because Africans spend so much time socializing and sitting around. All it takes to learn languages is time and exposure.
 
All it takes to learn languages is time and exposure.
...too bad that exposure seldom is to the written word or even complicated discussion.
In my city, all the imigrants get shoved into "language high schools", that specialise in the study of languages, because they speak very basic Dari, basic Arabic, basic Finnish and basic English, but there is no way in hell anyone of them will go on to complete a degree in linguistics, because they are all semi-illiterate. Of course chaos ensues and no-one learns any marketable skills, but diversity line go up. 10% native girls into poetry and stuff, and 90% sand- and regular niggers that are into gangster rap, all being prepared for the same university. Tax euros well spent.
 
Toki Pona, a language created by western nerds, extensively uses metaphor and recursion. Just because a language is grammatically simple or has a limited vocabulary doesn’t make it unga bunga. Only the brains of the people speaking it can.
having a person of normative intellect try and understand those who's intellect is as low as humanly possible is just as difficult for them, as it is for the unintelligent to try and understand intelligent people
to comprehend how the mind works and to try and simplify your own to such a degree where it feels natural is a hard task, it's not just a matter of acting dumb, you have to think dumb. it's not enough to ask yourself "what's 2-2" and confidentially say you don't know... you have to IMAGINE not knowing, imagine lacking that knowladge, or even harder- imagine thinking "2-2 = 9", just try and get into a mindset where you earnestly believe that and can convince yourself that it is true somehow

people capable of a more complex language will struggle to build a simple yet usable one without using metaphors because they're thinking of simplifying the world they know as much as possible. for example, if we're only allotted so many words, then the word for "a basket of fruit", a physical concept, should be the same as the word for "many little things", a more generalized concepts, right? as such we have a metaphor
but that's thinking like an intelligent person designing a simple language, that's thinking as someone who KNOWS of the nonphysical idea of 'many little things', whereas you should be trying to think like a person who doesn't comprehend such a notion
what should the word for such a concept be, then? well we don't need one, it doesn't exist, 'many little things' does not exist, world is small and only few things in world exist, basket, fruit, tree, elephant, that's it, a metaphor isn't needed because a thing cannot be compared to another thing, it simply cannot be, recursion isn't needed because a thing cannot be expanded on, thing is thing
in order words- unga, and might i even add, bunga
 
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It would be funny if that were made in China.
 
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It would be funny if that were made in China.
I actually looked it up out of curiosity
It's made under a brand name called "The Silver room", it's run entirely by black people and is based in America, so as you can probably guess their merch comes in three styles- trashy faux-rich (think of anything kim kardashian would wear, mostly all the mauve handbags and gold plated stuff), harsh modernist grunge, and "how many patterns and colors can i slap on this to try and make it come off as some kinda 'traditiona' african folk aesthetic"
and half of it has statements in it ranging from strongly political to the safest status quo fashion statements imaginable

Behold notable examples:
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The real question is, is it made in America? Do they have their own in-house studio creating these, or are they being ordered from someplace? If so, there's still a very good chance it's in China
 
I actually looked it up out of curiosity
It's made under a brand name called "The Silver room", it's run entirely by black people and is based in America, so as you can probably guess their merch comes in three styles- trashy faux-rich (think of anything kim kardashian would wear, mostly all the mauve handbags and gold plated stuff), harsh modernist grunge, and "how many patterns and colors can i slap on this to try and make it come off as some kinda 'traditiona' african folk aesthetic"
and half of it has statements in it ranging from strongly political to the safest status quo fashion statements imaginable

Behold notable examples:
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The real question is, is it made in America? Do they have their own in-house studio creating these, or are they being ordered from someplace? If so, there's still a very good chance it's in China
That 3rd shirt is one "bix nood" quite away from being a shitpost. I kinda want it.
 
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