Hollywood major mistakes thread - In which we discuss the many foibles of visual media production companies past and present

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This thread is for talking generally about The many errors, mistakes, and "what were they thinking" moments throughout the history of the visual medium.

I made this start because I particularly want to talk about how dumb Hollywood prop Masters are for ever allowing real bullets and real guns on a set at the same time. Handing actors loaded guns has led to at least two major incidents in which people were murdered, most famously being Bruce Lee's son dying on the set of the crow, the lesser one being Alec Baldwin reenacting the okay corral on some shitty Western set. Both of these tragedies occurred because the prop master, who is ultimately responsible for these things, screwed up and gave actors real guns loaded with real bullets when they should have been blanks.

There is absolutely no reason why fully functional bullets should ever be on set. I realize that they have them there for scenes where an actor is pointing the gun at the camera, they want the bullets to be in there and for them to look as realistic as possible. You can make fake bullets that look identical on the exterior to real bullets, but are absolutely and completely 100% safe. All that would need to be done is buy a loading press, which you can get for probably less than $100 these days, and press a lead bullet into a brass casing. That is it. Now you have a bullet that looks identical to the real thing in a revolver but cannot go off, because it has no primer and even if it did have a primer there's no gunpowder to explode and push the bullet through the barrel.
 
Brandon Lee's death was very much a consequence of people not realizing that blanks still eject shit, even if they aren't lead. It was a tragedy and prop masters learned a lot from it.
Baldwin, on the other hand, was just reckless, and his prop master was negligent.
On perusing the unbiased and perfect and never wrong source Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, It seems the prop department did not follow my advice and Left the primers in the casing but removed the powder, so when the primer went off it pushed the bullet into the barrel which nobody noticed, and then the same now squib loaded gun was reloaded with blanks which when fired recreated a regular bullet system which then hit and killed Brandon Lee yet somehow never penetrated his skin.
 
There is the infamous Twilight Zone movie disaster. People talk about the work hours of the child actors a lot which I always felt is a complete red herring on the accident because even if it had been during business hours and the kids had been hired on the correct contracts and shit the actual issue was the retarded play between pyrotechnics and forcing a chopper pilot to fly too close and low.
 
I’m willing to argue that Disney taking over Marvel and Star Wars for the rest of eternity actively changed the landscape of entertainment as far as we know it, but that’s just speaking the obvious.

As far as props go, there was the time in American Sniper where Bradley Cooper’s character holds a fake baby in one of the scenes that somehow went unnoticed:

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There is absolutely no reason why fully functional bullets should ever be on set.
I disagree. Only actors who've been shot at can give the genuine reaction needed for the audience to really believe what they're seeing. I also find the idea of bajillionaire celebrities freaking out on set very funny.

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Thankfully the film didn't make it's money back.
 
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an entire thread could be filled with their mistakes alone. If I had to pick the one that rankles me the most, it's deliberately marketing Treasure Planet like shit so it could bomb and thus give them the excuse they needed to kill off their 2D studio because "CGI IS NEW N SHIET"
 
Tax: this piece of shit right here. Look at it!
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You can actually see exactly how the midwit retards of Hollywood came up with this shit solely based off charts and "market research" without any understaning of film making or art.

They literally applied a formula without any understanding of how humans work. Take a famous broadway musical, cast famous actors in it, push to release and profit.

At no point did they actually try and understand the musical itself, or what it was, or try and make sense of how to best translate it to film. Just a blanket replacement of the parts and shove out the door. And they were shocked it didn't work.

Any retard on the street would be able to do better, but then it wouldn't be following the "formula" they wanted. They worship their fucking gay ass spreadsheets and charts to the point of kafkaesque absurdity.

The ungodly ugly models? They did it because they wanted you to still be able to see the actor's faces. Because they think that is what people go to movie for, to see actors and not the acting. If they made the cats actually look good they would have had to hide the facial features and they can't have that no no!

Doing it with makeup like on the show? Also not possible. That would hide them too much, and the lack of CGI would mean that you would be able to tell very easy when the body doubles come on.

Make it animated? Animation if for kids only! Never mind The Simpsons is almost 40 fucking years old and the many styles of animation that exist.
 
Doing it with makeup like on the show?
The costuming and makeup being what it is, is actually what a lot of people appreciate about theater. There is a type of suspension of disbelief and make believe the audience is in on when it comes to stage plays that don't translate well to screen. They tend to sort of be overtly self-aware and that's part of the charm.

The only way this could have worked is if they did an animated version perhaps in the same sort of style as Aristocats. Just plain singing cartoon cats. Trying to make everything work as a live action is dumb.
 
Make it animated? Animation if for kids only! Never mind The Simpsons is almost 40 fucking years old and the many styles of animation that exist.
The only way this could have worked is if they did an animated version perhaps in the same sort of style as Aristocats. Just plain singing cartoon cats. Trying to make everything work as a live action is dumb.
Funnily enough, an animated adaptation WAS in the works by Steven Spielberg's animation studio, Amblimation
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There is the infamous Twilight Zone movie disaster. People talk about the work hours of the child actors a lot which I always felt is a complete red herring on the accident because even if it had been during business hours and the kids had been hired on the correct contracts and shit the actual issue was the retarded play between pyrotechnics and forcing a chopper pilot to fly too close and low.
It only took 4 posts to mention when they negiligently crushed a child with a helicopter. Any further than that and I would have lost faith in this forum.
 

Absurdly based to be quite honest.

There is also the time they literally killed a few people to make a good flood scene for a Noah's Ark film.


It's this movie. Entire thing is on youtube since the copyright is expired. The flood scenes are on the end of it, around the final 10 minutes. The main flood scenes where the injuries happened is around 1:32 to 1:35.

Total of the butcher's bill was 3 dead, 1 dude who got a amputated leg, the lead actress caught pneumonia and around 40 people suffering from many levels of drowning and crush injuries. Apparently it took some 35 ambulances to help out everyone.
 
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