Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Neodymium-60]

what sort of combat you do consider honorable.

None?

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

An idiot, pacifist AND a coward. What a combo.

 

[IKOL]

What honor? Being gutted like a fucking pig and getting your fingers chewed off?

Fighting for your life in the cold melee duel like our ancestors have intended. It wont matter if you win or lose, you foungt your best, your earnest, you'll reap your reward regardless of you passing away into Oblivion or keep living victorious, yet probably damaged for life.

Unfortunately neither two of you niggers can relate nor understand the whole spirit and implications of that.

 

[Neodymium-60]

An idiot, pacifist AND a coward. What a combo.

Me not having retarded notions of honor does not make a pacifist

 

[Betonhaus]

Me not having retarded notions of honor does not make a pacifist

There are people who will see you being a doormat and just take advantage of you, because "pwetty pwease stahp" does fuckall. Eventually there's a point where you do need to fight to defend honor, or to avoid a more costly fight.

 

[AllieKat]

If you don't think there's anything honorable in a 1 on 1 knife fight then I can't imagine what sort of combat you do consider honorable.

Weed whacker duel to the death

 

[moocow]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2ldpnyewx1o

https://archive.is/io95H

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Fascinating. The losing side doesn't really get to dictate terms in a negotiation.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

 

[God of Nothing]

Fascinating. The losing side doesn't really get to dictate terms in a negotiation.

That's what they mean. It's just phrased in such a way to make them look determined despite their failure. I genuinely have no idea how anyone can keep a straight face when the entire war has been Russia taking ground and Ukraine losing it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

a cut up version where the ukrainian won

Yeah, that's hilarious, sad and mentally deranged all at once.

That Ukrop piggy recorded his own trip to the slaughterhouse

That's kind of the problem with this war for the Ukrainian Tik Tok generation that believes war is a video game, strap on the GoPro and stumble around until they're killed.

Also don't bother with the other thread, they believe in a fantasy version of this war where their beloved Nazi larpers are angels and Russians are dumb orcs.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Back-to-back terrorist attacks in the United States. Both suspects have connections with Ukraine, just like Trump's second assassination attempt. All three are pro-Ukraine veterans.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

What honor? Being gutted like a fucking pig and getting your fingers chewed off?

I agree, there's no such thing as an honorable fight outside of some kind of pre-planned honor duel. Maybe pistols at dawn if we REALLY wantto be gentlemen about killing one another.

Other than that killing people is messy and shit and usually traumatic for the survivor unless they're wired for it, which most people aren't. It's still necessary though, wars need to be fought for many reasons. But I doubt if you asked that Russian guy if he felt that was honorable he'd say yes.

"War is sweet to those who have no experience of it, but the experienced man trembles exceedingly at heart on its approach."

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

It looks like Ukraine is sponsoring terrorism against the United States at this point.

 

[Slicc Vicc]

Back-to-back terrorist attacks in the United States. Both suspects have connections with Ukraine, just like Trump's second assassination attempt. All three are pro-Ukraine veterans.

Wahhabi faggots Hohols

It’s beautiful.

Who wants to bet it’s all a part of wider US/Trumposuarus strategy to shape domestic public opinion before cutting any and all funding/aid

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Who wants to bet it’s all a part of wider US/Trumposuarus strategy to shape domestic public opinion before cutting any and all funding/aid

I doubt that would work. Faggots in the 2024 Syrian opposition offensives are already defending the same Biden backed Isis that attacked New Orleans because Russia bad and Israel good.

 

[Average Russian Spy]

Back-to-back terrorist attacks in the United States. Both suspects have connections with Ukraine, just like Trump's second assassination attempt. All three are pro-Ukraine veterans.

Looks like my prediction of Ukrainians being the cause of the next big wave of terrorism in the West turned into a realization sooner than I expected. I wonder what else Budenov has in store for DJT and his supporters.

On a different note, seems like it's been a rough beginning to the new year for Ukraine. Mass desertions, along with a brutal video showing some central asian gutting a Ukie. The sheer amount of online squealing I've seen since that vid came out is astonishing. Hohols love to hoot and holler and dunk on Russians whenever they post a POW drone snuff vid, but the moment a true fight is caught on camera, with the Ukie dying instead, they lose their shit and call everyone else subhuman and evil.

Respects to the Ukrainian that died, but unfortunately, he fought for American interests.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Wahhabi faggots Hohols

It’s beautiful.

I won't say I told neocons you so but "I told you so". Remember, they will bring these same meth addicted goons to the US when Russia takes Ukraine and use them against anyone against their agenda-like us. And Tump.

Who wants to bet it’s all a part of wider US/Trumposuarus strategy to shape domestic public opinion before cutting any and all funding/aid

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It's glow niggers reminding Trump they can get to him. That brings me to this:

killing people is messy and shit and usually traumatic for the survivor unless they're wired for it

Survival has been hardwired into us since before the Paleolithic. Return to monke is literally in everyone of us unless we're defective in some way.

 

[jje100010001]

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It looks like Ukraine is sponsoring terrorism against the United States at this point.

Some theorizing:

https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1874937265191112859

https://x.com/smccoy3620/status/1874976261342409161

https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/1874935208975483387

https://x.com/WCdispatch_/status/1874926080437665899

If Azov has been moved into the US and Europe, then truly 'interesting' times are to follow.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Survival has been hardwired into us since before the Paleolithic. Return to monke is literally in everyone of us unless we're defective in some way.

I agree with the premise but, just based on anecdotal evidence, many people seem to have either had it bred out of them or may just be defective in some way as you say. That's why veterans are often so fucked on return home. Look at the suicide and depression rates of Western vets who only got in minor fighting against insurgents, and now imagine the trauma Russian & Ukrainian vets are going to have after being involved in this shit.

Regardless of what our ancestors experienced, life and death situations are NOT normal anymore and most people are NOT hardwired to fight to the death. They'll do it if they have to but it fucks them up in the long term.

I'm the opposite of a pacifist, I think there are many situations you'll have to fight in life bur it's never honorable and in fact the less honor the better because it'll hopefully bd over quicker. Be dishonorable, do what you need to win. Hit them first, really fuck them up. But don't sugarcoat it with "honor".

Russia was honorable at the start of this war, it fought with restraint and look how that turned out. Gloves are off now, and Ukraine is fucked.

 

[God of Nothing]

I agree with the premise but, just based on anecdotal evidence, many people seem to have either had it bred out of them or may just be defective in some way as you say. That's why veterans are often so fucked on return home. Look at the suicide and depression rates of Western vets who only got in minor fighting against insurgents, and now imagine the trauma Russian & Ukrainian vets are going to have after being involved in this shit.

Regardless of what our ancestors experienced, life and death situations are NOT normal anymore and most people are NOT hardwired to fight to the death. They'll do it if they have to but it fucks them up in the long term.

Oh, this is a stress thing. For most of our history, we fought pretty upfront wars all things considered. Get in formation, face the enemy, and lift your shield when arrows come. Shit can get loud, but it won't blow out your eardrums. Now your eardrums are always getting blown out. Arrows were replaced by artillery shells. Anyone can kill you any time from anywhere. We didn't exactly evolve to deal with this kind of warfare. Something in us just snaps, and we're never quite the same. You're right that not everyone is wired for this, but it'd be better to say none of us are wired to worry about bombs dropping on us.

I remember something like even people who said war was when the best of mankind emerged during WW2 thought artillery was horrible.