Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[Happy Little War Painter]

Russ should petition to move the case to Wyoming.

Fuck it, move this case to the UK. It would make just as much sense as where it is now.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Okay, so it looks like this screenshot is the "evidence" Greer disclosed to Hardin in the above matter:
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He appears to be DMing with someone who works for Goodreads, or at least he thinks they do. Notice how this person's replies are not shown.

what a lazy redaction geez russ.

 

[The Dude]

So for those who only really know about Ol' Pipsqueak from the lolsuit and not his dedicated thread, Russ grew up in Evanston, Wyoming, a nice small town just east over the border with Utah. Lovely town, nice people, it's where Utahns go for good fireworks (lots of fireworks stores in Evanston) and beer that isn't watered down (Utah has some silly liquor laws). Russ grew up there up until he went on his mission for the LDS Church, then when he returned home he moved to the Salt Lake area of Utah to attend LDS Business College to spend five years to get a certificate of completion as a paralegal, which is typically a course that only takes two years to complete. Russhole lived in Utah for a few years until he moved to Las Vegas.

His parents, however, still live in Evanston. I don't believe Shit-Lips has moved home, despite the dire straights he's found himself in lately. What my guess is that he's having any payments sent to his parents, possibly to have them deposit it in an account that he still has access to. But I'm willing to bet that Dildo Saggins is still living in Vegas for several reasons, among them is close proximity to brothels, but also because he is a narcissist and has made being a Las Vegas resident a part of his identity. He has convinced himself that Las Vegas is where he is going to be "discovered" by big wigs in "The 'Biz" and will be the launchpad for his rise to fame and fortune.

 

[Suah Noteb]

Ol' Pipsqueak

Russhole

Shit-Lips

Dildo Saggins

I wonder, has Greer tried submitting a list of all the insults and nicknames aimed at him to the court? I'm sure such a list could put the judge in his favor.

 

[The Dude]

I wonder, has Greer tried submitting a list of all the insults and nicknames aimed at him to the court? I'm sure such a list could put the judge in his favor.

I hope that wouldn't mean I would have to be included in this bullshit, since I'm the source of quite a few of those nicknames. I'm still quite proud of Dildo Saggins.

 

[RodgerDodger]

And it is indeed owned by his family. And since the tax office mailing address is the same, it's likely not a rental or anything.
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Just to remind everyone. By everything we have observed over the years Greer's adoptive parents are sweet, kind caring people who are not cows. His father was cooperative and helpful with Hardin. His father is very ill. They certainly do not deserve the ton of shit constantly dumped into their life by Russ. Let Hardin do his job and otherwise ignore the Parents.

 

[moorhen]

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He has tried everything. Everything except a phone call. That was just a step too far.
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Alternative calculation: you would be lucky to get $1 from 366 streams on Spotify.

Spotify pays anywhere between $0.003 and $0.005 per stream, and as a nobody, Rusty would’ve been on the bottom end of that.

He would’ve made $1.01 on Spotify.

Apple pays around a cent per stream, according to Google, which means he could have made $3.66 from Apple in streams.

Or, he could’ve used YouTube, if he could get monetised, and earn about $0.36.

On Amazon Music, he would’ve made $1.42

All of this is easily googleable information.
It also leads us to ask the questions “does a stream translate to a sale?” (No) and “would the average person pay $4.99 for a single song?” (Also no)

I also can’t find anything at all about pricing via cdbaby, they seem to be a distributor and licensing company.

 

[Poop Shoot]

And I'm arguing that with a few more beatings and a few less coddlings, Russ could have been a decent, productive human. Alas, we will never know.

You’re certainly allowed to think that way, but from watching Russ over the years, he is incapable of learning from his mistakes. That’s why he’s a cow in the first place.’

I really think they tried their best, but he’s just a retard doing retard shit.

 

[ScooterL]

Any job that Russell ever gets will be ruined by his biggest character flaw: he lies to everyone, always, in even the most trivial interaction. He can't even send messages to instathots without claiming he's a brothel owner or pop star. We have no evidence his adoptive family shares this habit or taught it to him.

He does it in court cases, too, and he's too stupid to do it well, which is a big part of the reason he's never won one.

 

[Dyn]

Russell isn't retarded he's just really fucking stupid.

 

[Shig O'nella]

Russell isn't retarded he's just really fucking stupid.

Everyone has a talent. That is his.

 

[Clovis]

And when he's not outright lying he's just living in a parallel reality where:-
- Someone telling him no = crazy person flying off the handle and yelling at him.
- His warped idea of how a celebrity ought to behave towards him should be enforced by the courts.
- He can and should achieve pop stardom by writing songs that other people perform for him.
Etc, etc, etc.

Sure, the court system has to accommodate stupid, but it should be becoming clear to even the judge (who is unfamiliar with this particular pro-se, IFP gimp's long and history) that his filings are a trifecta of stupid, dishonest and deranged.

All of this is easily googleable information.
It also leads us to ask the questions “does a stream translate to a sale?” (No) and “would the average person pay $4.99 for a single song?” (Also no)

Will it ever get to the point of undigging the fluff and asking him to illustrate his account of lost profits? I'd like to see them try to drag evidenced figures out of him at this stage. Can he understand the concept? Clearly in his mind it translates to him being entitled to all those 4.99 downloads, and more because he thinks it's not just the pirating of his content that's the issue, he insists there's a pool of hapless duped consumers out there being put off his works by bad reviews. And he's totally entitled to them and their money, too.

I don't know about the US but in the UK actual lost royalties awarded are generally a pittance because how do you say with certainty what people would have paid and how many of them would have paid it? They're happy to say when a copyright has been breached and rule on that unequivocal fact, but not on imaginary profits.
But hey, maybe all the plights and hurt feelings make all the difference.

If he's actually got any faith in his books and music he'd have been putting stuff out under an alias years ago, so he could show its the nasty meddling kiwis that have ruined his name, not the fact he's putting out garbage.
But in that timeline I guess he wouldn't be a homeless bum filing IFP.

 

[FamicomGorby]

Will it ever get to the point of undigging the fluff and asking him to illustrate his account of lost profits? I'd like to see them try to drag evidenced figures out of him at this stage. Can he understand the concept?

Russ is only seeking statutory damages in this case, so basically a fixed amount that's set by the law. He definitely knows that his music and book combined would never have made him $100 let alone $600K.

Just to remind everyone. By everything we have observed over the years Greer's adoptive parents are sweet, kind caring people who are not cows. His father was cooperative and helpful with Hardin. His father is very ill. They certainly do not deserve the ton of shit constantly dumped into their life by Russ. Let Hardin do his job and otherwise ignore the Parents.

I kinda feel the same way about em as Bob Chandler, may he be spared an eternity as Robertchu. Basically someone who did their best but was never equipped to handle a special needs kid like Chris and ended up not fully equipping them for the real world.

Actually there are a lot of parallels between 2000's Chris Chan and Greer. They both daydream excessively, mention their disability every five minutes as a shield, and believe they are far more capable than they actually are. Can only hope that Greer doesn't also troon out and fuck his mom, though the only positive for the latter is it technically wouldn't be incest.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

He definitely knows that his music and book combined would never have made him $100 let alone $600K.

I think he actually believes that if it wasn’t for a conspiracy against him they’d all have been best sellers, or at least enough to get noticed by a big time producer and made him famous. He’s that delusional.

 

[not william stenchever]

The part of me that wants Josh to win is hoping the judge comes back from his holidays and immediately throws the case out.

The part of me that wants to watch the funny is hoping the case gets tossed out... over to WY, and the ball gets rolling on this case seeing every state's court before being deemed an international court case and eventually being thrown into the sun.

Before it reaches the sun the case will be transferred to Zeta Reticuli. Josh will have pay his space lawyers in silver Kiwi Koins and there is a significant risk that the space judge will rule that the appropriate remedy is to exterminatus the planet

 

[obsdj]

the space judge will rule that the appropriate remedy is to exterminatus the planet

It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Before it reaches the sun the case will be transferred to Zeta Reticuli. Josh will have pay his space lawyers in silver Kiwi Koins and there is a significant risk that the space judge will rule that the appropriate remedy is to exterminatus the planet

If this case survives much longer I'm not sure we have a good argument against exterminatus.

 

[a hapless toad]

Reminder that the only reason the book was even uploaded to Google drive in the first place is because Russell himself made it available IN FULL FOR FREE on Amazon. Because as Dyn said, he's really fucking stupid.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Please subpoena the correspondence between Russell and the big music studio exec that axed his music contract because of trolls.

 

[Jew-ish]

So for those who only really know about Ol' Pipsqueak from the lolsuit and not his dedicated thread, Russ grew up in Evanston, Wyoming, a nice small town just east over the border with Utah. Lovely town, nice people, it's where Utahns go for good fireworks (lots of fireworks stores in Evanston) and beer that isn't watered down (Utah has some silly liquor laws). Russ grew up there up until he went on his mission for the LDS Church, then when he returned home he moved to the Salt Lake area of Utah to attend LDS Business College to spend five years to get a certificate of completion as a paralegal, which is typically a course that only takes two years to complete. Russhole lived in Utah for a few years until he moved to Las Vegas.

His parents, however, still live in Evanston. I don't believe Shit-Lips has moved home, despite the dire straights he's found himself in lately. What my guess is that he's having any payments sent to his parents, possibly to have them deposit it in an account that he still has access to. But I'm willing to bet that Dildo Saggins is still living in Vegas for several reasons, among them is close proximity to brothels, but also because he is a narcissist and has made being a Las Vegas resident a part of his identity. He has convinced himself that Las Vegas is where he is going to be "discovered" by big wigs in "The 'Biz" and will be the launchpad for his rise to fame and fortune.

This is more of a general observation, so my apologies for shitting up the thread, but I imagine one of the advantages of Vegas is the heat, which helps dry out all the spit constantly leaking from his gaping retard maw.