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CBS: FAA expands drone flight restrictions in New Jersey. Drones are now restricted in 9 more municipalities in addition to dozens of municipalities already under restriction. "It's unclear why the new restrictions were put in place". Nothing to see here folks. (December 31)

The Borough of Atlantic Highlands has now fallen under FAA restrictions for drone use effective immediately until at least January 19, 2025.
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A BBC Science Focus Magazine (sciencefocus.com) article that I archived was deleted.
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Ask a Pol: Rep. Timmons calls for "better imagery, better sensors" post-Dec. AARO SCIF briefing (archive) (Reddit)
 
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The Gene Genie said:
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"It's China AND they are using alien-derived technology" would be the most fun answer to the mystery by far. Thread for whatever that email is.

This was a recently reposted Ask a Pol:
“I do think that the government is trying to assess whether it's China or non-human." - Rep. William Timmons

They are getting antsy over this podcast, it's almost 3 hours. Will look at that instead of listening to 8 hour Elder Scrolls video:
* Disclosure has happened, we're just catching up.
* I've debunked the sudden disinformation conspiracy theory that the UFO soft-disclosure NASA and Department of Energy related podcast episode is some sort of "deep fake" or "AI". Multiple participants confirmed it was real.

Finally, various "sources" say the "drone" flap is still happening, here's the Daily Mail:
Drones 'the size of buses' are still invading New Jersey... as experts reveal why crisis has gone silent (archive) (Reddit)
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
"It's China AND they are using alien-derived technology" would be the most fun answer to the mystery by far. Thread for whatever that email is.
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It would be a bizarre one, but I find it hard to believe China would have access and we wouldn’t, unless that’s a part of this whole thing. When I’m done work I’ll watch the podcast and see if there’s anything more than a schizoemail from Ashton Forbes’ biggest fan.
 
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The Gene Genie said:
It would be a bizarre one, but I find it hard to believe China would have access and we wouldn’t, unless that’s a part of this whole thing. When I’m done work I’ll watch the podcast and see if there’s anything more than a schizoemail from Ashton Forbes’ biggest fan.
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The Lore Masters have/will say that China's reverse engineering program could have advanced past ours because they can throw more personnel at it while maintaining secrecy, since they are not afraid to execute your entire family line and everyone knows it. Ross Coulthart relayed a story about how a US scientist was a sad sack only able to study alien debris/technology by watching video of it and could not talk to colleagues in the next offices over. This was to support a broader narrative of reverse engineering progress stymied by the secrecy requirements of The Program. And I think the well known "4chan whistleblower" poster said something about China's progress on reverse engineering the alien mining lasers.

China harassing US bases with alien hybrid drones is a tough sell. Even their explanation for 2023 balloons ("it was *cough* mainly *cough* a civilian meteorological airship that had been blown off course") may have been mostly honest. China's overall technological/military progress is often downplayed here on KF, but they are spending a lot of money and living their best life stealing any secrets they can. I think it's plausible that they could have an advanced "gravitic" drone while having worse warships and fighter jets, for example, because everything is compartmentalized.
 
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
The Lore Masters have/will say that China's reverse engineering program could have advanced past ours because they can throw more personnel at it while maintaining secrecy, since they are not afraid to execute your entire family line and everyone knows it. Ross Coulthart relayed a story about how a US scientist was a sad sack only able to study alien debris/technology by watching video of it and could not talk to colleagues in the next offices over. This was to support a broader narrative of reverse engineering progress stymied by the secrecy requirements of The Program. And I think the well known "4chan whistleblower" poster said something about China's progress on reverse engineering the alien mining lasers.

China harassing US bases with alien hybrid drones is a tough sell. Even their explanation for 2023 balloons ("it was *cough* mainly *cough* a civilian meteorological airship that had been blown off course") may have been mostly honest. China's overall technological/military progress is often downplayed here on KF, but they are spending a lot of money and living their best life stealing any secrets they can. I think it's plausible that they could have an advanced "gravitic" drone while having worse warships and fighter jets, for example, because everything is compartmentalized.
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Oxyjen said:
Fake

And gay.
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Feels like a nothing burger as far as “we” are concerned. No proof just assertions that anyone associated with the Ashton Forbes and Shawn Ryan part of the UFO community wouldn’t come up with on their own. It’s more of a two-part manifesto but even then I wouldn’t call it a manifesto. If I had to guess his aims here it’s because of some air strike in 2019:

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I believe this is legitimately from him, but I do not believe he knows anything more than the average UFO fan of anything associated with The Program.

EDIT: He may CLAIM he has UAP access but that doesn’t make it true. In other words: he can elaborate in relative detail about a 2019 airstrike including location and names of people involved and his specific role in that operation, but he can’t state anything on the UFO Program except what he could’ve gathered on /x/ or r/UFOs?
 
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GradeAGobbleDeeGook said:
a MetaBunk thread has been started on the "UAP Related Manifesto Claims"
posted about 10 minutes ago by Mick West himself
it has not been populated yet as it is so new, but i archived the original post anyway
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They are going to be loving this. It's proof that everything needs to be deboonked so we don't get schizo attacks.

This is the podcast, it was already archived by someone else:


The real email/manifesto sent to @samosaur per @ShawnRyan762 (archive)

Trump Tower bomber. UAP/Anti-Gravity Connection from Shawn Ryan Show. (archive)

(East Coast Drones) FBI says they have "strong evidence" that the email shared on Shawn Ryan's show *was* sent by Livelsberger before the explosion (archive)

"Drones in the U.S. are from China and have gravitational propulsion": The shocking information comes from an email released recently, attributed to former Green Beret Matt Livelsberger, who, on January 1st, drove a Tesla Cybertruck loaded with explosives to the Trump International Hotel in Vegas. (archive)

My god, this is not china. (archive)

Twitter account attempting to expose Shawn Ryan? (archive)
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Reading a lot of the commentary about the emails and this guy on Twitter, from boneGPT and other such people, I'm inclined to believe that the email sent to Sam Shoemate has enough doubts in its authenticity to question whether or not it was really Matt Livelsberger that sent it. I don't agree with boneGPT that Sam or Shawn wholesale faked it, but I don't think it's an authentic email from the guy. The fact that
>The car he said was his first was NOT his first
>The details laid out in the email (specifically relating to the UFO phenomenon) are both nothing new and exactly the kind of narrative I'd expect a paranoid Government to push for
>(according to Jack Poso) the details of the 2019 Airstrike were wrong

Means that there is enough to doubt their veracity. For what it's worth, I think the "phone message" is fake too and reads like the kind of shit an FBI analyst would expect a "deranged lunatic MAGAt" to write.

I think that this is a psyop, and it's curious that what appears to be the main angle for it is about the UFO phenomenon.
 
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Samhain said:
I'm not saying the email sent to Sam/Shawn is real or fake, but Posobiec is a spook.
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He is, but it's not just Posobiec questioning the airstrike that makes me think it's fake. I just put that there for extended emphasis.
 
Ryan Graves: https://x.com/uncertainvector/status/1875635552399081726 (archive) (Reddit - archive)
A whistleblower came to ASA regarding a mid air collision between a Gulfstream jet and an unidentified metallic object that occurred off the coast of Florida on December 11 at approximately 27,000 feet and resulted in engine failure and an emergency landing.
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ASA = Americans for Safe Aerospace
This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.

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What is going on? (archive)
Last night I read about military bases implementing temporary measures and restricting access to military bases, requiring biometric identification card even when traveling with DOD card holders, all trusted travelers have been suspended effective immediately as of yesterday. This seems very unlikely if there is no threat, actions like this are never going to happen without a threat. I could understand one base but from what I read based across this country are implementing this elevated threat. I just pulled up information on the Naval Academy and read similar alerts from others checking info at bases in their areas. Before people start debunking this I would suggest everyone look up websites for bases near them and see if it’s ALL military bases. It’s literally posted on their websites.
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As an engineer, the "Chinese drones" theory is NOT plausible. Here's why. (archive)

OPCEN (operations center) for US gravitic drone program (archive)
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Shawn Ryan and Sam Shoemate Are Lying | Ryan McBeth on Youtube | Jan 4 2025

Ask a Pol: After "several" UAP briefings, Norman says conservatives want hearings "with some teeth" (Reddit)
 
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Reading a lot of the commentary about the emails and this guy on Twitter, from boneGPT and other such people, I'm inclined to believe that the email sent to Sam Shoemate has enough doubts in its authenticity to question whether or not it was really Matt Livelsberger that sent it. I don't agree with boneGPT that Sam or Shawn wholesale faked it, but I don't think it's an authentic email from the guy. The fact that
>The car he said was his first was NOT his first
>The details laid out in the email (specifically relating to the UFO phenomenon) are both nothing new and exactly the kind of narrative I'd expect a paranoid Government to push for
>(according to Jack Poso) the details of the 2019 Airstrike were wrong

Means that there is enough to doubt their veracity. For what it's worth, I think the "phone message" is fake too and reads like the kind of shit an FBI analyst would expect a "deranged lunatic MAGAt" to write.

I think that this is a psyop, and it's curious that what appears to be the main angle for it is about the UFO phenomenon.
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Addendum to this: Sam, Shawn, and bone have all been crashing out against each other. There's too much to link let alone archive, but it basically just reaffirms that everyone should be suspect of whatever they're saying with this email. It should go without saying that this:
Ben Zener said:
i think sam and shawn are both spooks, nobody is "ex intelligence". either youre either still currently, or never were. intelligence agencies are so thorough with what information they allow you to even talk about publicly. these guys acting like theyre brand new is fake, and gay.
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remains accurate, and whatever is going on is an active disinformation campaign. My personal beliefs (woo-woo they're hiding the Federation!) aside, this is clearly an engineered attempt to steer conversation around the UFO phenomena towards being ZPE drones from China, which is retarded and belongs on an Ashton Forbes broadcast and not in any serious discussion.
 
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