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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Snekposter]

America has Q

Man, I wish we did. Rest in peace, Desmond Llewelyn.

 

[Slur Generator]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit? Wasn't the main selling point of Brexit that they couldn't control immigration because of the EU's free movement rules? And now, all Brexit really seems to have done is swap out Andrzej for Mohamed. Was it actually all about "MUH WOTAH RIGHTS" the whole time?
Reform Will just mean less illegal Mohamed and more legal Akshit.

 

[Miriam Margoyles]

Muslamic [sic] rape gangs

This might be a little bit tinfoily, and rate me Dumb if you think so, but the name of that remix was 'Muslamic Ray Guns', which sounds like a comical, ridiculous concept, that these people are angry at the idea that those dastardly Muslamics are building a big Bond villain style doomsday weapon or something.

But he's clearly saying 'Rape Gangs'. Which is a horrifying, disgusting concept that people would rightfully be appalled about, if it was occurring in their local area.

Why are you deliberately misrepresenting and obfuscating what he's saying, and who does it benefit to do so? Why are you deliberately trying to play down the horror of what he's talking about, and making out like he's some kind of idiot ranting about something clearly ludicrous? That's kind of sinister, don't you think?

Now, granted, it might have more to do with classism, and they might be just making fun of his Norf F.C. accent, but if you ask me, it could be both.

 

[FedPostalService]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit? Wasn't the main selling point of Brexit that they couldn't control immigration because of the EU's free movement rules? And now, all Brexit really seems to have done is swap out Andrzej for Mohamed. Was it actually all about "MUH WOTAH RIGHTS" the whole time?
Reform Will just mean less illegal Mohamed and more legal Akshit.

Because he’s a tool of the old establishment who is deployed to bully the Tories in to stop being gay every few years.

 

[Allo Vera]

Why are you deliberately misrepresenting and obfuscating what he's saying, and who does it benefit to do so? Why are you deliberately trying to play down the horror of what he's talking about, and making out like he's some kind of idiot ranting about something clearly ludicrous? That's kind of sinister, don't you think?

Now, granted, it might have more to do with classism, and they might be just making fun of his Norf F.C. accent, but if you ask me, it could be both.

The problem with lefties in this country, IMO, is they are primarily concerned with their own internal feelings of being good people: more tolerant, liberal, smart… just better. Back when the clip went out on the Russell Howard show, I would have considered myself one of those people. LOL, aren’t we so much better than that thick white working class racist? My background is white working class incidentally.

Truth is, I was in an echo chamber of friends and acquaintances who were even more hard left than I was, and I’d read the Guardian shit they shared on FB, and therefore knew that the likes of Owen Jones were the voices we needed to pay attention to, etc. I’m pretty sure I didn’t believe it, but I knew this was what I was supposed to believe (the alternative being a disgusting, bigoted Tory).

Basically, I was an idiot, and too lazy/afraid to challenge the orthodoxy I’d decided I inhabited. Mainly due to the grave social repercussions of saying the wrong thing.

This only changed eight or so years ago when I said the mildest TERF adjacent statement (something like “trans women aren’t the same as women because they aren’t born, raised and socialised as females”) and was immediately shunned by these people. Of course I’ve been a raging TERF ever since.

Lefties today are consumed by the need to pander to troons whilst ignoring the egregious harms being done to children right now in the name of gender ideology.

Plus ca change plus c'est la même chose.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit? Wasn't the main selling point of Brexit that they couldn't control immigration because of the EU's free movement rules? And now, all Brexit really seems to have done is swap out Andrzej for Mohamed. Was it actually all about "MUH WOTAH RIGHTS" the whole time?
Reform Will just mean less illegal Mohamed and more legal Akshit.

Because he didn't have any real power over what happened next. I actually think he just got exhausted during the long, drawn out leaving process. He was sick of campaigning, and as he was drawing attention to the fact that everything was being done incorrectly, all he could really do was shout into the void. Even during the referendum campaign, all the big money and establishment media coverage went to the Johnson-Cummings Vote Leave group, rather than to Leave.EU or Grassroots Out, where Farage was.

He's only just been elected to Parliament. His job when he was in the European Parliament was essentially to be a gadfly, because his group(s) had no power to block anything. In the intermittent years, the part where the government had to leave the EU was mostly led by Tory politcians who did not want to leave the EU, and did not understand (either through wilful or genuine ignorance) why the majority of voters wanted out. They certainly didn't want to change the high level of immigration.

I think he felt Johnson might have changed things because they're cut from a similar cloth - personally liberal, but with a kind of appeal to conservatives and patriots - but when Johnson decided to listen to his newest wife instead of actually doing the right thing, it was clear that the Tories were completely, irreversibly done. That is why Farage eventually decided for one more roll of the dice to actually get into Parliament and perhaps be able to finally get migration under control if Reform becomes a big enough threat.

 

[FedPostalService]

Plus ca change plus c'est la même chose

Holy shit, you are almost literally me. Except I stoped buying The Guardian on 12 September 2001 as the world had really changed then. This became my long and slow drift from being a lefty retard.

It was the troon shit which turned me into what could be considered by some right-wing crank.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Do not fear about all the far right propaganda going around
Truth and Decency are on our side fellow neoliberal bros and we will win

 

[teriyakiburns]

As for "people didn't know", and I see this a lot, the Jay Report was released ten years ago into the scale and details of the horrors in Rotherham.

And yet many people didn't know, because all but the barest minimum information about the report was covered by the media before being shuffled off the metaphorical front page as fast as possible. Politicians and bureaucrats at every level went out of their way to hide it and distract people from it, because it was a perfect demonstration of not only how deeply they had failed to protect the most vulnerable, but also how they had colluded to punish anyone who tried to stop it.

There's also a certain level of willful ignorance about it, amongst the people who don't want to accept that it was allowed to continue, or don't want to believe that something so horrific could be happening right under their noses. They don't want to accept the possibility that our "betters" actively participated in covering it up, or that such barbarity was tacitly endorsed as the price for "diversity".

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit?

He says the right things. He makes great, bombastic speeches, corrals enough of the angry mob into a useless corner to stop them being a threat, ejects all the "racists", and then claims another pension.

Do not fear about all the far right propaganda going around
Truth and Decency are on our side fellow neoliberal bros and we will win
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They can talk all they like about change and fixing things, but when one of their own is genuinely threatened, suddenly they're all united in a common purpose. It's no surprise to see this supposed "small government" tory standing up to whitewash Starmer's disastrous tenure as head of the CPS, his long history of abetting child rape, and his persecution of innocent people for trying to stop it.

 

[Ahriman]

I want to make a reminder to everyone, and apologies that this is quite preachy.

It is a sad but understandable fact that people who understand what I will simply call "the situation" in this country, do not want to put their name on the line organising or trying to directly affect political change, as the deck is so completely stacked against us by the state.

What I believe is not acceptable is not even trying to change a few minds and communicate with trusted people about the state we're in. The situation seems so immovable because despite it being current year, the state still rests on a gigantic bedrock of normies who will grumble about this and that, but still fundamentally believe that the state has their interests in mind, that tolerance and acceptance is an unquestioned virtue, and that the British-on-paper of this country really are British in their hearts and minds, with the same goals and incentives as the natives. Those normies almost certainly include close friends and family members of people here.

If you possess even the slightest modicum of conversational skills, it has literally never been more easy to bring up the rape gang situation without seeming like a weirdo with an axe to grind. It costs no social capital to talk to a close friend about things like:

• The "grooming" gangs were/are systematic child rape and torture gangs
• The gangs were almost all Pakistani men
• Basically all the victims were white British girls, and they were targeted on racist grounds, and racially abused with terms like "white slag" and "kaffir" while being raped
• The girls were drugged, raped 4 at a time, beaten and raped with baseball bats, burnt, cut, pissed on, branded with their abusers' initials next to their anus, and a seemingly never-ending list of other atrocities
• Girls were taken to different towns to be raped by dozens of men a night, many nights a week
• The only people who have been prosecuted have largely been the gang members who had control of these girls, and doesn't include the uncountable number of nameless men who were the customers of these gangs, whom the girls were pimped out to
• A kebab shop in Blackpool killed at least one girl and mixed her body into the kebab meat
• Police arrested girls at the scene for being "drunk and disorderly"
• Despite the massive underreporting and coverup, 1 in 73 Muslim men in Rotherham were prosecuted for being in the rape gangs.
• 1400 underage girls in Rotherham alone were raped and abused. This is described as "a conservative estimate" by the report that produced it (Jay report)
• It is estimated that 5-10% of all white British underaged girls in Rotherham were abused
• Grooming gangs have operated in dozens of towns all over the country, with Rotherham being only the most well-known
• The Rotherham rape gang did what it did despite Pakistanis only consisting (at the time) of 2% of the town's population
• South Yorkshire police deliberately did not record the ethnicity of the rape gang members
• Pakistani council members repeatedly used their powers to deny enquiries and investigations
• Muslim MP Naz Shah liked and retweeted a post saying "those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of #diversity". She received almost zero attention for this and is still MP for Bradford West years on from this.
• The Conservative party created a Home Office panel to advise on the gangs, and put Imran Ahmad Khan, MP for Wakefield and Pakistani Muslim child molester, on the panel as an expert on child sexual abuse (is now convicted, was under police caution at the time of being added).
• While the Mirror "broke" this story in 2013, members of the BNP were put on trial for race hate in 2006 for saying the same thing. The Guardian even reported Nick Griffin in saying "I was speaking the truth to an audience of decent working people in West Yorkshire who in some cases are facing terrible problems, including the grooming of their children by paedophiles." and yet no notice was taken.
• In 2011 a man was interviewed at an EDL march and spoke about "Muslamic [sic] rape gangs" and "15 year olds are getting raped, that's why we're here". He became a gigantic meme and the subject of intense derision by the left for years, with remixes making fun of his poor speech getting millions of views, and comedy hosts (like Russell Howard) broadcasting abuse of him on national TV. The anonymous man was completely factually correct.

All of these are easily fact checked, and every one of them is a gigantic, eye-opening truth that cannot be swallowed by a member of the "normie" contingent without seriously reconsidering their beliefs about ethnicity and integration in this country. The average person's exposure to "grooming gangs" news was, until now, successfully limited by the state to one "Horrific abuse of 1400 girls" headline 12 years ago, and the odd drip drop of "14 convicted of grooming offences" on the BBC local news section.

As someone reading this, you belong to the top tier of professional noticer. You hold more sway from the knowledge you have than you may realise. Most of the doomer points about the British state were also true of the USSR during the disaster and coverup of Chernobyl. It was all watertight until everybody knew the lies were lies, and everybody knew that everybody knew.

Very nicely put. Indeed, it's very simple to drop these little nuggets of wisdom on normies (without showing your powerlevel like you would on a forum like this), then let it linger for a while - the Socratic method is your best tactic. This way, you spring out knowledge that was already within that person, through question and contradiction.

In our case(), as you have already noticed in the news media, it's been over 1 year already and we have pretty much cornered leftoids and their international propaganda, we are hammering them constantly with statistics to the point of desperation, they just cannot refute tangible, undisputable evidence that they are wrong. An incident regarding child trafficking and about some woke book talking about masturbation that was part of our primary school curriculum, nowhere near as vile as what you guys have over there, has been brought up to light recently and when leftoids tried to run defense, their narrative was quickly called out... it ultimately fell apart. The main difference is, even the normiest Argentine NPC has been beaten down with lies and propaganda for so long, that he turned into a complete stranger who promised true change and so far, he has delivered in spades. To quote one of my favorite movies:

"Abel, look at that picture. Look at all those people. They are incapable of a revolution. They are far too humilliated, too afraid, too downthrodden. But in ten years... by then, the 10-year-olds will be 20, the 15-year-olds will be 25. To the hatred inherited from their parents, they will add their own idealism and impatience. Someone will step forward and put their unspoken feelings into words. Someone will promise a future. Someone will make demands. Someone will talk of greatness and sacrifice. The young and inexperienced will give their courage and their faith to the tired and the uncertain. And then there will be a revolution. And our world will go down in blood and fire."

It's no surprise why Milei has become extremely popular with the Argentine millenials and zoomers, as they have inherited a country in shambles and believe that they deserve better than this. I mean for fuck's sake, the guy dismantled our equivalent of the American IRS (whatever it's called in the UK), for a much more smaller, efficient government agency - let's see if Trump has the balls to do something like that in the US. Elon is basically copying our reforms and state mandates blueprint and incorporating them into his "DOGE" department. I could go on, but you get the idea; it all started with a social shift, someone just picked up on it and our results speak for themselves.

It's no joke when I tell you Brit folks that, the moment someone who comes up and finally asks the hardest questions, shows ACTUAL balls to confront the British establishment for all its faults, you must rally behind him and give him your support.

https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1875177597321015699

You guys know that I hold no ill will against you but for once, it's time to start pushing back.

Signed,

A concerned Argentine.

 

[Geoff Capes Vapes Apes]

Do not fear about all the far right propaganda going around
Truth and Decency are on our side fellow neoliberal bros and we will win
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Pakistani's, as whole communities, got together to routinely abduct, torture and rape little white girls, in some cases murdering them afterwards, but for goodness sake don't let the "legacy Daily Mail" make "islamophobic dog whistles" about this.

We've all known this was going on in my end of Norfshire for at least 25 years now, but we've also known that if you speak up the entire weight of the mohammedan-occupied local authorities, police etc. and their useful idiots would come down on you and try to destroy you.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit? Wasn't the main selling point of Brexit that they couldn't control immigration because of the EU's free movement rules?

I have problems with Farage but I think it's silly to blame him for the betrayal of Brexit because that is entirely due to the Tory government (most of it's members voted to remain in the EU) who were the ones actually making the decision to flood the country with third worlders.

Boris Johnson famously said he decided to open the borders because he wanted to be make friends with the Financial times.

 

[Ahriman]

Pakistani's, as whole communities, got together to routinely abduct, torture and rape little white girls, in some cases murdering them afterwards, but for goodness sake don't let the "legacy Daily Mail" make "islamophobic dog whistles" about this.

We've all known this was going on in my end of Norfshire for at least 25 years now, but we've also known that if you speak up the entire weight of the mohammedan-occupied local authorities, police etc. and their useful idiots would come down on you and try to destroy you.

>Their useful idiots

You can't cull these vermin fast enough. The only reason these saracens have taken root like they have, is because of self-absorbed enablers like them. You guys NEED to start calling them out on it, start rubbing in their faces the consequences of their actions.

Like I've said a few pages ago, ask yourselves, "WHO BENEFITS?".

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit?

Cause the Right Wing are very, very stupid to put it nicely.

 

[FedPostalService]

You guys know that I hold no ill will against you but for once, it's time to start pushing back.

The Falklands are still ours and you’re not getting them, mate.

 

[Ahriman]

The Falklands are still ours and you’re not getting them, mate.

I wouldn't be so sure - you've already lost your country, judging by what I've seen. If anything; kelpers are NOT allowed into Argentina, enjoy the trip back to Britbongistan. /sneed

On a more serious note, our Navy is finally getting the attention it deserves and we will be getting 3 brand spankin' new submarines, along with 24 new F-16 fighter jets that we've purchased from the Danish Air Force. We will be rearming ourselves and finally, we'll get our aerial and marine supremacy, at least in our neck of the woods. This is another reason why Milei is massively popular with our military, he is giving them the much needed attention they deserved for so long. And we've managed to get all that money, just by slashing our public spending, and dismantling retarded state ministries and unions. The money was always there, it was just badly misused/mismanaged.

Having said that - you guys have much bigger problems back home. Us rearming ourselves should be the least of your worries.

 

[Slur Generator]

I have problems with Farage but I think it's silly to blame him for the betrayal of Brexit because that is entirely due to the Tory government (most of it's members voted to remain in the EU) who were the ones actually making the decision to flood the country with third worlders.

Boris Johnson famously said he decided to open the borders because he wanted to be make friends with the Financial times.

He directly says he is fine with the brits being replaced as long as they act "british"
its a costume to him.

A guy like this will never EVER be the right call if you want Britain to still be British in 50 years.
People like this are more dangerous than the shitlib.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Sorry if that article might not fit that thread but it was worth to share.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/01/will_elon_musk_bring_down_the_british_government_over_the_grooming_gang_cover_up.html

https://archive.is/RLIPM

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4qTTr

January 3, 2025

Will Elon Musk bring down the British government over the grooming gang cover-up?​

By Andrea Widburg


My X feed suddenly started featuring posts about the infamous and utterly heinous story that Muslim rape gangs in Northern England had, for more than three decades (from the late 1970s to 2013), exploited hundreds of thousands of British children. Worse, they were enabled by British police and politicians afraid of “inflaming tensions” with the Muslim population.

Why the sudden interest in an 11-year-old story? It turns out that Elon Musk, who is unafraid of being imprisoned by Britain’s increasingly totalitarian government, learned about what happened and went on an X rampage, forcing the story into the daylight, including PM Keir Starmer’s apparent role in the cover-up.
Here’s what I was able to piece together:

Beginning in the 1970s and accelerating hard and fast in the 1990s, Yorkshire, once the most English region in the UK, became the primary destination outside of London for Pakistani immigrants. In 2013, news broke that Muslim rape gangs had been sexually exploiting non-Muslim children in Rotherham, a town in Yorkshire. That was terrible, but what made the story a scandal was that the police and government had known about these gangs and had done nothing for fear of “inflaming” the Muslim population.

 

[Ahriman]

Sorry if that article might not fit that thread but it was worth to share.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/01/will_elon_musk_bring_down_the_british_government_over_the_grooming_gang_cover_up.html

https://archive.is/RLIPM

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/4qTTr

The answer to this is @Slur Generator 's comment, a few pages ago.

Elon is boosting the rape gangs story because its mostly pakistani men that are doing the raping. He is doing this to distract people from the indian menace. He is listening to his jeet advisors because they hate pakis. What he doesn't realise is that only Indians and pakis can see the difference between them.

 

[Smyrna]

Can someone, preferably a reformer britbonger, explain why Nigel Farage still has any influence after the absolute trainwreck of a betrayal that was Brexit? Wasn't the main selling point of Brexit that they couldn't control immigration because of the EU's free movement rules? And now, all Brexit really seems to have done is swap out Andrzej for Mohamed. Was it actually all about "MUH WOTAH RIGHTS" the whole time?
Reform Will just mean less illegal Mohamed and more legal Akshit.

The most straightforward explanation is that Farage personally has never betrayed the demands that led to Brexit, as he has never been in government. He has never had any direct influence on what the government does. Therefore, people do not blame him for what the Tory governments have done since 2020, particularly regarding immigration. It should also be pointed out that the Boriswave has little to do with membership of the EU - he could still have done it even if we had not left the EU.

The most Farage can be credibly accused of is writing Johnson a blank cheque in the 2019 election by standing down Brexit Party candidates in Tory-held seats. He regrets doing that, but would do it again as in 2019 Labour were no longer promising to leave the EU - their policy was to revive May's terrible deal in full and then put it to a second referendum where the only other option would be to remain, with the hope that a lot of Leavers would stay at home in protest and that the vote would be to remain (incidentally, this policy was designed and orchestrated in full by the Shadow Brexit Secretary at the time, a man called Keir Starmer). So the way Farage saw it, only the Tories would deliver his flagship policy. For what it is worth, the Tory manifesto of 2019 did also promise to reduce net migration, although the previous 3 manifestos had all said the same thing without the promise being kept. So you can argue he should have known better, or that he is only pretending to care about migration.

Is Farage himself controlled opposition? Quite possibly. If he became Prime Minister in around 4 years time, would be fail to control immigration? Wouldn't be surprised. But for almost all the people who are fed up of the 'legacy' parties, there are no other viable anti-migration parties right now. The next biggest party in that vein is probably the SDP, who achieved 0.1% of the vote at the general election and averaged fewer than 300 votes per candidate. Every other soc-con\nationalist pary (UKIP, Heritage, English Democrats, Homeland etc.) is smaller than that. So most of the people angry at the government won't be aware these parties exist - only Reform.

Personally, I share a lot of the same concerns - Farage is a Thatcherite who probably understands the concerns about migration but at the same time probably isn't too bothered about sorting it, and that his primary concern is enriching himself. But there is no other credible public figure to the right of him who can call him out.