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[Paper Machete]

Ever since the tranny agenda has grown stronger, many artists have been condemning exaggerated sexual dimorphism in FANTASY stuff. Like, what? You mean to tell me the fact that the female of the species is slimmer or curvier than the more muscular and bulkier male is stranger than the existence of some weird god out in the stars or the fact that people in whatever fantasy series can fly on brooms? It's fantasy. It's weird. It's wild. It's over the top.


Female and tranny artists want EVERYTHING to be androgynous in features for muh inclushun, muh "female" gaze, and muh feelingz. There will always be traits that will out the male and female features of a species. It's only been us humans that have discarded that natural concept and embraced poonerism enough to complain about literal sexual dimorphism.



I have a feeling Steven Universe kickstarted that more androgynous, gender-neutral, gemder-special, "inclusive" character design trope. In fact, I don't see what's so androgynous with the gems. They're all female-shaped and female-voiced. They're female.


They all just wanna goon to ladyboys, tomboys, dickgirls, cuntboys, and futas.


So they don't want exaggeration in cartoon drawings of men and women? The exaggeration is there to make a distinction among the characters if done right. Once everyone starts to look more androgynous, I'm sure these people would complain they all look the same or are all overdetailed like Vivziepop's art. TF you faggots really want?
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While most people are somewhere along average the funniest thing is that there ARE human beings that represent this extremes. So why is it so outside the realm of possibility for anthro fantasy races? Like there are woman who barely reach 5' and guys who are closer to 7' that literally dwarf their smaller counterparts. It's not necessarily made up, it's just that media likes to focus on exceptions a lot to make up for being fantasies by being more of a spectacle and because that's what drives interest: so all stories of all types are going to deal with "representing" exceptions and exaggerations in any number of ways.

Yet, these are the people always going on about media literacy lmao

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

Woman who's been trooning out and peddling it for nearly a decade, Alex Bertie, has recently had a hysterectomy. The entire ordeal seems like a divine reality check. She discusses how embarrassing the whole procedure was.

-Being the only single 'man' in a gynecologist waiting room filled with pregnant women.
-Being a lesbian who doesn't enjoy penetration and has been abusing testosterone for so many years, her vagina was left dry and tight, leading to it ripping during her hysterectomy.
-The post-surgery care for this complication was having to insert estrogen into her vagina for a few weeks
-The main reason she claims she got this surgery was so that she wouldn't experience a period again. However, the first time she attempts to pee without a catheter she bleeds so much on the bathroom floor it would put even women with the heaviest flows to shame. The first time she's experienced this since 2016.

This entire ordeal seems to have shaken her pretty bad. She explains how during recovery in the hospital she was paranoid and irritable, constantly seeking reassurance from visitors that the staff didn't misgender her. Part of me feels bad, knowing how young she was when she was coerced into tranny shit. At the same time, who knows how many little girls cut their tits off because of her
C’est la vie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbfFFnpo05g

Famous pooner Alex Bertie has recently deleted her youtube account after almost a decade and a half on the platform. She was the first pooner I can remember being exposed to, and has gathered quite an audience over that time. This comes almost exactly a year after her invasive and traumatic hysterectomy, which I've covered here. I can not find reference as to why or when she deleted her channel, but TheWaybackMachine has a snapshot from October of this year.

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Alex Bertie, a pooner I had forgotten about, seems to have popped up as a contestant on the new series of The Traitors in the UK. This might explain why she recently deleted her YouTube channel. Looks a bit different but the age listed by the programme and her Wikipedia page match. Credit to ripx4nutmeg on X for spotting this.

You can read a profile of her in this archive of a BBC piece on the launch of the show. Highlights:

Psychological warfare AND a game show. I watched it with my mother-in-law, and she said, “I think you'd be really good at this.”

She thinks she'll do well in a game all about lying and deception. Huh.

Some might assume silly equates to being stupid so, I've found that throughout my life, a lot of people have maybe overlooked me or underestimated me.

I have always been more of a starving artist sort of person as opposed to a sort of athletic person. These days I'm just an artist because I'm definitely not starving, and I love pasta! I'm not particularly physically strong, possibly stronger than I look, but definitely would try and avoid physical activity where possible. The closest thing I've got to a sporting achievement was attending PE once in a three-year period! So, I'm not particularly physically active, I am known as a bit of a weed. I've tried to lift weights and when it when it comes to running, I think I would just rather not know how unfit I am.

When I spoke to my mum about it, she said you'd make an excellent Traitor. And I was like, what does that even mean mum?! Basically, what she said - and some other people throughout my life have said the same - is that it's quite difficult to read me sometimes.

I quite like being the centre of attention, when you're the centre of attention it gives you quite a good 360 view of everybody.

Me and my wife aren't able to have biological children and it's obviously very expensive to start IVF so that would be the first thing on the list. I'm desperate to be a dad, I'm just a big kid and just always wanted to be a dad. So that will be first on the list.

Well, maybe not always.

 

[2SLGBQTIA+ 2 Furious]

Apologies for the doublepost; had a chance to catch up with The Traitors and can confirm that while Alex is a pooner, it's not Alex Bertie as she has a Scottish accent and the arm tattoos don't match up. Just happens to be the same name and age with similar features.

 

[183 baras]

Ever since the tranny agenda has grown stronger, many artists have been condemning exaggerated sexual dimorphism in FANTASY stuff.

IMO There's nothing bad in wanting more than buff men and small feminine women. I think, this boring ass human dimorphism is the thing that contributes to girls pooning out since it feeds the idea of somewhat masculine women being secretly men inside.
If we're picking fantasy race in a game we're picking it for cool design, maybe beastly features like badass horns or scales, but if you pick female model there's a chance it being dull and toned down. I mean, there's nothing bad about some women being feminine and men being masculine but no way in hell there's no masculine females with huge fucking horns and, idk, spikes. Nature has dimorphism, but different species have big females and small males, why not to try this idea?
Imagine the whole world teaching you about womanhood as being a girly thing with interest in dolls and romance and every show having girl characters in pink or adding shit like pink bows while games having cool male orcs in fun armor and their females as fucking human women with grin skin, maybe tiny fangs and stripper clothing. Growing up you start to see womanhood as boring, dull and "safe", you learn to pick male characters when possible and associate yourself with male protags in cartoons or any other show.
I had to go through this myself and it took time to accept womanhood as something more than conservative (at a time) world taught me.

 

[Tomboy Tuti]

I have a feeling Steven Universe kickstarted that more androgynous, gender-neutral, gemder-special, "inclusive" character design trope. In fact, I don't see what's so androgynous with the gems. They're all female-shaped and female-voiced. They're female.

Oh it's way older than that buddy

Is that a man or a woman? I want to say woman but I don't even know. I want to say the androgyny shit began with bowie dressing like a fag in the 70s but I could be wrong with that. I do know women went mad for that and to this day the bowie androgynous look informs troon/pooner fashion to some extent (at least mainstream fashion, we all know they're wearing blouses skirts and thongs in their homes).

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Oh it's way older than that buddy
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Is that a man or a woman? I want to say woman but I don't even know. I want to say the androgyny shit began with bowie dressing like a fag in the 70s but I could be wrong with that. I do know women went mad for that and to this day the bowie androgynous look informs troon/pooner fashion to some extent (at least mainstream fashion, we all know they're wearing blouses skirts and thongs in their homes).

That’s a flaw unique to this adaptation, probably due to crap artwork. The character is unambiguously female - this is her in the original TV series:

The graphic novel took some liberties with the source material. This character:

became this:

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Oh it's way older than that buddy
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Is that a man or a woman? I want to say woman but I don't even know. I want to say the androgyny shit began with bowie dressing like a fag in the 70s but I could be wrong with that. I do know women went mad for that and to this day the bowie androgynous look informs troon/pooner fashion to some extent (at least mainstream fashion, we all know they're wearing blouses skirts and thongs in their homes).

Neil Gaiman was a sucker for the New Romantic movement and post-punk, its only natural he went on to be part of the social justice crowd but i think he is cancelled or meetood now too. Most of those bands just figured out that some women get wet over the aesthetic and exploited it, same as with Yaoi authors and visual kei in Japan or kpop boybands today, the hair metal bands all looked like drags but got drowned in pussy because of it, most of those guys were not pretending to be anything else than very horny straight men. The look and the insane gender ideology can be divorced, its why the activists are so annoying, somebody liking goth fashion should not immediately translate in support for the gender religion and all that comes with it but nowadays its assumed that it does.

 

[Mad Hunter]

Oh it's way older than that buddy
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Is that a man or a woman? I want to say woman but I don't even know. I want to say the androgyny shit began with bowie dressing like a fag in the 70s but I could be wrong with that. I do know women went mad for that and to this day the bowie androgynous look informs troon/pooner fashion to some extent (at least mainstream fashion, we all know they're wearing blouses skirts and thongs in their homes).

Prominent tits means woman





Also, yeah, I do kind of agree with women in fiction needing variety in shape and size, but even if you give EVERYTHING in regards to variety, the trannies will always find a way to tell you "no don't do that do this." It has happened on Twitter when someone made a transfem Laios from Dungeon Meshi (I never understood the need to turn every fictional character into a tranny) and it actually passed as female but then trannies and faggots dogpiled the artwork.

Even if you played with gender roles, sexual dimorphism, gender in general in fantasy, it has to be one of the trannies who'd say something about muh representation. Even if you put in an intersex race like snails or a race that can switch sexes like clownfish, there's a chance they'd go "why do they look so heteronormative when they switch sexes you something-phobic" even if the said character is a hero, a good guy. All just because the said character can make himself pass as a male or female. There's no winning.


The only media where I've seen intersex beings not being portrayed as muh representation was the tranny flowers Jigokuraku so far, and guess what? They were the bad guys (though even trannies love a good villain). And hey, it still makes sense considering that many plants have both male and female parts. Guess the trannies just want all people to troon out.

Yeah true, a man doesn' need to be huge and hulking to be "man" and a woman doesn't need big tits and butt to be "woman," everyone comes in all shapes and sizes, but at the end of the day, something in their face and voice ESPECIALLY will tell you, no matter how androgynous.

I think this is also why so many people are scared to make diverse appearances. Some idiot is gonna go "woman with square face? Trans! Butch lesbian! Representashun!" If they get offended, they'll go "why is the trans girl so masculine looking? Transphobia!" If I were them, I wouldn't do that because that's the stereotyping they'd typically condemn.

They hate sexual dimorphism because it means they will never truly pass. there will always be something giving them away.
A guy doesnt need a square chin and broad shoulders to look like a man, their facial structure and voice will tell you they are men.

Gonna play a bit of devil's advocate and say I agree when its like, the males have more monstrous features but the females are just human women with green skin. I feel in cases like that its ok to say its lame.


I seen this furry in my TL who draws giant busty furry women and call them "he/him"s
If I see them again I'll post a pic.

Honestly, stereotypes exist for a reason. One of the common tranny stereotypes is a fatass with flabby boobs with the remnants of his or her biological sex with poor fashion. Any tranny could try and pass, even a bit just like Buck Angel and Kim Petras, but no. They don't want effort. They don't work out. They don't try to eat healthier, or even reduce sugar in their diet. They don't train their voice. They don't bathe. They don't shave. They don't groom themselves. They don't even save up for HRT. They don't find good fashion that suits their bodies. They don't WANT to do anything. Well guess what? Even cis, straight people have to work out to look good. They need to train to sound or walk a certain way. They have to clean themselves so they don't smell like a carcass or look like some shabby brigand. They need to dress properly so they don't look strange or filthy. They save money for medicine, food, housing, provisions, anything important or not. It's hard. But that's life. Those trannies might realize they aren't that different once they make effort.

 

[Male Idiot]

Sexual dimorphism drives trannies to the walls.

Yes, I want cute tiddy waifu in my game not 5 ton blob of hairy, wart covered fat, or buff manly Chud McMuscle not Doodly McDood the noodle armed 5 foot manlet.

This is fantasy, and I don't get how they don't want to look good for even their chosen sex.

Games used to understand this. Male Draenei or Qunari were giant slabs of muscle, females were dainty curvy and cute for the former. Now look at Veilguard, they turned them into weird blobs.

 

[Mad Hunter]

Sexual dimorphism drives trannies to the walls.

Again, that's because they cannot pass as the gender they LARP as.

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

They all just wanna goon to ladyboys, tomboys, dickgirls, cuntboys, and futas.

Do they even want to jerk it to this stuff? Or do the loudest creeps in their discord groups (pedos, troons) talk about it so much that they think it's normal? So many of them say they're "ace" or whatever so we have a bunch of frustrated weirdos who think they arent attracted to anyone because they're disgusted by what they're "supposed" to be into. Like reverse conversion therapy but self perpetuated. Imagine psyopping yourself into being attracted to some kind of Chimera with cut up parts, failing, and being like "Oh well! I guess I'm just special and I hate sex. I give up! Time to cut parts off!" They'll try anything except normal human experiences.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Sexual dimorphism drives trannies to the walls.

Yes, I want cute tiddy waifu in my game not 5 ton blob of hairy, wart covered fat, or buff manly Chud McMuscle not Doodly McDood the noodle armed 5 foot manlet.

This is fantasy, and I don't get how they don't want to look good for even their chosen sex.

Games used to understand this. Male Draenei or Qunari were giant slabs of muscle, females were dainty curvy and cute for the former. Now look at

Appealing androginous characters embody the most atractive traits of their own gender but have some appealing elements of the opposite in lesser degree, without negating each other. Pretty much like ying and yang principle (maybe thats why its such a popular beauty standad in Asian cultures) .

Its a very highly idealized artistic abstraction anyways, is not meant to be a representation of objective reality.. Autismos just don't get it, these yaoi characters and bishounens are just highly subjective and expressionistic interpretations meant to only tickle the imagination, same with all these alternative art movements and fashion magazines, its just glamour, mirage for the senses only, you are not supposed to project your material reality onto it.

Its like when 12 years see cowboy bebop and think spike is so cool but if you actually try to dress and act like him irl you look like a flaming mongoloid, at some point, you get it but these pooners and troons have serious issues when dealing with subjectivity and the difference between an abstraction and reality.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Its like when 12 years see cowboy bebop and think spike is so cool but if you actually try to dress and act like him irl you look like a flaming mongoloid, at some point, you get it but these pooners and troons have serious issues when dealing with subjectivity and the difference between an abstraction and reality.

This is the secret.

If you put on the fedora and trenchcoat IRL, you don't look like the cool anime character or noir detective who wears them on TV: you look like a bigger dork than before.

The same is true for the catgirl headphones and stripey socks.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The graphic novel took some liberties with the source material. This character:
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became this:
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I didn't realize that it was possible to blackwash black characters.

 

[Paper Machete]

Appealing androginous characters embody the most atractive traits of their own gender but have some appealing elements of the opposite in lesser degree, without negating each other. Pretty much like ying and yang principle (maybe thats why its such a popular beauty standad in Asian cultures) .

Its a very highly idealized artistic abstraction anyways, is not meant to be a representation of objective reality.. Autismos just don't get it, these yaoi characters and bishounens are just highly subjective and expressionistic interpretations meant to only tickle the imagination, same with all these alternative art movements and fashion magazines, its just glamour, mirage for the senses only, you are not supposed to project your material reality onto it.

Its like when 12 years see cowboy bebop and think spike is so cool but if you actually try to dress and act like him irl you look like a flaming mongoloid, at some point, you get it but these pooners and troons have serious issues when dealing with subjectivity and the difference between an abstraction and reality.

Part of all this is also that they're cartoons. It's an artstyle that sort of flattens minute details. So any representations are very caricaturized and will come across different in the medium than they would IRL, it's why most cosplay looks like shit even if the person put a lot of money into a good costume, you can't make the unreal real and expect it to land similarly.

Bishies look good in cartoons explicitly because they're cartoons and beautiful men IRL usually aren't androgynous they're just young and have long lashes or something. What people usually mean when they call someone that is what their fashion sense is, not their inherent looks, but this is lost on a lot of people for some reason.

 

[Mad Hunter]

Do they even want to jerk it to this stuff?

I I have a small inkling it has something to do with being terminally online. The isolation from the real world regarding sex and gender has warped their view so much that THIS is what's sexy to them.

Think about it this way. If otherwise straight men and women are isolated from the opposite sex for a long period of time, like in prison or the military, they will have sexual urges, but not the person they'd usually release their sexual urges with, so they'll have homosexual intercourse. It's called "gay for the stay." They're not truly attracted to the same sex. They're just horny. These trannies are probably not even attracted to what they're seeing. They are just so lonely and horny due to Internet addiction and muh identity they find things like this hot and not the "bad and boring straight heteronormative sex."

I also have a similar theory for furries (another fandom with many trannies) and zoophilia. They spend all day looking at pornography and art with animalistic features like muzzles, snouts, noses, and ears to the point where that becomes hot to them. Soon, it's all they'll ever find titillating due to the isolation from actual humans that they end up fucking dogs and cats.

Bishies look good in cartoons explicitly because they're cartoons and beautiful men IRL usually aren't androgynous they're just young and have long lashes or something. What people usually mean when they call someone that is what their fashion sense is, not their inherent looks, but this is lost on a lot of people for some reason.

Unfortunately, this thing only looks appealing on younger people. Once the person goes through the natural aging process, it's no longer cute.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Unfortunately, this thing only looks appealing on younger people. Once the person goes through the natural aging process, it's no longer cute.

There should be an anime about bishis becoming old, fat, bald geezers who are screaming "Get off my lawn!" at kids.

 

[Paper Machete]

If otherwise straight men and women are isolated from the opposite sex for a long period of time, like in prison or the military, they will have sexual urges, but not the person they'd usually release their sexual urges with, so they'll have homosexual intercourse. It's called "gay for the stay."

This is not actually much of a thing. Dry spells are normal for humans. Simply not having access to sex for long periods of time is not enough to change your sexuality. Other factors have to be at play. The ones that go prison gay are usually lifers. Some prison/jails will also organize special alone time with significant others outside the prison/jail, though I don't know how common that is.

(Also, as far as the military, access to women has always been a thing. Camp followers were a thing and many wives followed their husbands as camp followers. Towns you moved through and the places you attacked would also have women. They did jobs like the laundry, helping maintain camp, and food, as well as nursing. The reason the Navy got joked about being big gay was because they were the only ones that didn't have access to women. And nowadays ofc women are allowed in as regular rank and file. Anyone that tries to tell you different is trying to compensate for being Big Gay.)

Autistic, shut in kids getting groomed notwithstanding.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

There should be an anime about bishis becoming old, fat, bald geezers who are screaming "Get off my lawn!" at kids.

Vince Neil: The anime

 

[Aunt Carol]

Vince Neil: The anime

Parable of the Damascus Goat

actually that sounds like a decent anime title