Navigating male friendships as a trans man - Cis guys conditioned to chat about poker, women, football

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It’s uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships, but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days — and what is not wrong — and I can pinpoint various areas where masculinity still remains toxic, and areas where it doesn’t.

When I first started transitioning to be a man I hated all cisgender men: they were the bane of my existence. I was conditioned to hate cis men because they historically were the ones who repressed trans people. I found though, that when I went on testosterone and started passing as a man all the time, that people suddenly expected me to be nice to cisgender men and to be friends with them.

As a trans man, let me dissect what it’s like to find the right guy friend. Let’s first take a look at all men. Let’s say, for instance, that 70% of men are transphobic to some degree. Suddenly, I am faced with only making friends with 30% of these remaining men. Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.

I have had many cis men as friends. But even among those woke, non-transphobic men, there are a few issues that arise. The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria. In this same vein, it is difficult to talk to them about anything trans-related, because trans-related issues do not conform to cisgender culture. I’ve found that even the most well meaning, progressive men find talking about something like dysphoria awkward. Cisgender men are conditioned to make small talk about the NBA, poker, women, and football.

Perhaps I take issue with how all cisgender men are socialized, then. I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country’s locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.

It is hard to find a man who I can talk to about transphobia or bottom dysphoria. On that note, the best “male” friends I have in the current day are actually cisgender men who are secretly trans women. It’s shocking, at first, to learn that my close friend from college is secretly a trans woman. But then it’s enlightening, and it makes sense why they were so comfortable with me being trans to begin with. It’s sad, though, that the only “men” I feel the closest to are those who secretly don’t want to be men. It’s not sad in the sense that I don’t want them to transition —every bit of me wants them to transition — but it’s sad that I can’t get close to other cis men in the same way.

Most of the men I’ve talked about in this piece are straight, cis men, and I have neglected to speak about gay or queer cis men. In a previous piece for the Blade, I spoke of issues in gay men’s culture. I’ve found that there are many cisgender gay men who mean well for trans men, but that in another regard, a lot of cis gay men are socialized to cast social judgments and prioritize being skinny and fashionable instead of developing genuine friendships, especially when they are in their 20s and 30s. Instead, I’ve gravitated toward being friends with straight men mainly because I also harbor an attraction to women, and I do, admittedly, like to occasionally make raunchy and lewd jokes, and I feel less judged by straight men. Such a statement may come across as bold, but the truth is that I have very few gay male friends.

In any event, dissecting male friendships as a trans man is difficult and multifaceted, but worth it nonetheless. As a trans man, it’s fascinating to study other men, and in particular the ways in which they maintain, or don’t maintain, friendships. I am eternally perplexed by how some men make jokes and cut others out of friendship circles, but also happy that, at the end of the day, both straight and queer cisgender men can be accepting of someone like me.
 
As a trans man, let me dissect what it’s like to find the right guy friend. Let’s first take a look at all men. Let’s say, for instance, that 70% of men are transphobic to some degree. Suddenly, I am faced with only making friends with 30% of these remaining men. Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.
lol just 70% of men are transphobic

would you guys be friends with this dood? https://archive.md/wip/Xjyaw
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Isaac sits on the board of the LGBT Democrats of Virginia. He also founded the Fairfax, Virginia chess club. In his free time, he enjoys going to art auctions, engaging in prison reform, touring art museums in the nation’s capital, and watches countless spy movies. Isaac absolutely adores art museums and is a big fan of the Institute of Contemporary Art in Boston along with the Museum of Modern Art in New York City. He is also inordinately grateful for Smithsonian museums being free in DC. He believes that visual arts (paintings, sculptures, NFTs) are just as important, if not sometimes more important, than the written word.
wow I've never read such a self-flicking article about yourself like this
 

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I have had many cis men as friends. But even among those woke, non-transphobic men, there are a few issues that arise. The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria.
Why on the God's green Earth would anyone talk to their friends about that? Scratch this, how do these convesations even go? "Tee hee, I bought a cute new binder, but I still do not feel right DOWN THERE, dude. No I haven't yet yeeted my teets off", presumably followed by a limp unanswered bro-fist. And then she wonders why men are appalled.
 
It’s uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships
How so? You faggots bloviate about it constantly.
Cisgender men are conditioned to make small talk about the NBA, poker, women, and football
I don't talk to any of my male friends about that shit.
I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex
I love my wife, and that's all Chris at the shop needs to know. I don't need to talk about my sex life with the guys.
It’s not sad in the sense that I don’t want them to transition —every bit of me wants them to transition — but it’s sad that I can’t get close to other cis men in the same way
It's almost like you don't actually have anything to connect with people over because you're a narcissistic, mentally ill woman who only connects with other mentally ill people.
 
Funny how so much of this sounds like a woman describing the dating scene. For example, “So the first thing I did was eliminate a supermajority of potential candidates.”

For me, the key to friendships is finding people I don’t have to bullshit with but can actually say what I think whether they agree or not. This is the bridge a pooner will never be able to cross because “You have to believe my bullshit” is the price of admission to interacting with them.
 
Not a male, certainly an autist.

She writes like an incel about men that she allegedly wants to be "friends" with.

"Here is how I have mathematically proven that the head cheerleader should fuck me. If she rejects my proof, then she's a stupid cunt and I should murder her."

Also, she tries to infiltrate male society and then gets mad when it's not like female society.

Powerlevel but I work with blue-collar men and one of the interesting things about watching them is how little chit-chat there is. They just don't do small talk. When they do talk, they can bant with the best of them, but you can walk into a room with 30 guys who all know each other and maybe four of them will be engaged in some kind of conversation, whereas a room with 30 female strangers would be talking up a storm.
 
I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex.

She was expecting fujoshi dream of being one of the boys taking part in spicy lockerroom talk.
Reality didn't turn out like she wanted, now she's pissed off.

That's all I gather from this.
 
straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex.
emotions sure but lol at men don't talk about sex and relationships. Yes sweety its because they see you as a woman and its awkward and also because...

. I’ve found that even the most well meaning, progressive men find talking about something like dysphoria awkward.
... I'm 99% sure you change any cinvo about sex around to you talking about how you hate having a vagins and want a fake dick or whatever which they can't relate to and don't want to hear about
 
engaging in prison reform

"Tell me a little bit about yourself"

"Oh, you know, the usual stuff. LARPing as a pooner but still whining like a faggot. Pretentious museums & the arts scene. Engaging in prison reform".

It’s uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships, but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days

"I've been a man for five minutes."

" Now let me tell you guys why you suck and how you are doing it all wrong..."

Perhaps I take issue with how all cisgender men are socialized, then. I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country’s locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.

"Let me casually humble brag that I'm Ivy league in a completely unrelated anecdote right here..."

I’ve found that there are many cisgender gay men who mean well for trans men, but that in another regard, a lot of cis gay men are socialized to cast social judgments and prioritize being skinny and fashionable instead of developing genuine friendships, especially when they are in their 20s and 30s.

Whoa there fella. That's starting to sound a little typecast & homophobic.

Funny how the stereotypes that you casually toss about in this article (straight men love football, fags are stylish, catty bitches) are from the ID pol groups you don't want to fuck.

And the only person you identify with is a pre-op troon.

I am eternally perplexed by how some men make jokes and cut others out of friendship circles, but also happy that, at the end of the day, both straight and queer cisgender men can be accepting of someone like me.

I'm by no means a male friendship expert or success story. But again this seems like pooner projecting how female friendships work on to the evil oppressive men that she wants to camouflage herself around.

Male friendships don't tend to have as much hierarchy or backstabbing drama.

My personal experience with most of them ending is silent and unannounced because of life changes and the interval between reaching out to each other becoming too long and neglected.
 
When I first started transitioning to be a man I hated all cisgender men: they were the bane of my existence. I was conditioned to hate cis men because they historically were the ones who repressed trans people. I found though, that when I went on testosterone and started passing as a man all the time, that people suddenly expected me to be nice to cisgender men and to be friends with them.

>I hate half of the population just because of their gender identity, they're all such awful bigots who hate people just because of their gender identity

LOL fucking pooners. Nobody represses trannies, you're just a bunch of mentally ill, useless rejects that nobody wants to deal with as a woman or man.
 
would you guys be friends with this dood? https://archive.md/wip/Xjyaw
I think I've seen that dood on here before, and no, I wouldn't be friends with her. Her friendships apparently revolve around lewd jokes, her medical mishaps, and talking about her sex life. That's gross, and it violates the privacy of whoever is unfortunate enough to engage with her sexually. I want no part of it.
 
If you hate men so much why do you want to be one?
She hates herself and her own femininity more. It's usually a control thing, they can't control their period, or control how men view them as desirable(and how that colors all interactions with them) or most often, had a bad experience with an older male figure in their youth who was stronger and effectively unstoppable. It's rarely full-on rape and usually just a strong come-on or groping.

Pooners end up chasing some comical caricature of what they think men are, when they couldn't enjoy a televised sports event or a card game if their life depended on it.
 
Even as a woman that’s had a good deal of male friends because have some hobbies and interests that are more common in males, there is NO way as a woman to actually fit in with a group of guys.

Tolerated, enjoyed, but not actually one of the boys.
Male socialization is so different, men don’t talk about feelings and shit on the regular.
It’s straightforward casual talking, about things they do and have and topical events.
Men give each other a hard time, men will call each other little bitches etc jokingly and it’s just male ribbing.
Little pooner up there would fall to pieces and write an emotional Reddit post when she gets home.

And men are more careful with what they discuss in front of women, especially when it comes to talking about other women.
Didn’t know that was happening until I mentioned to a friend that another friend doesn’t talk about sex ever, and maybe he’s not that interested in it.
I was informed he talks about sex a lot, and in sometimes graphic terms, but never around me or other women.

Pooners have less understanding of men than most straight women do.
 
I was informed he talks about sex a lot, and in sometimes graphic terms, but never around me or other women.
Isn't this largely true of both sexes though? Like how often do you discuss sex with male friends? A lot of it is because most people are straight and most men can't relate to sucking or taking dick, but even with gay people, the same rule seems to follow. We are just biologically conditoned to be open to people with some sibjects who can truly empathise with us. Emotions, physical sensation, as well as in a socially conditioned context. A woman can never truly know what it means and feels like to be a man having sex, and vice versa.

It doesn't mean superficial discussion doesn't ever happen but you know.
 
The dumbest cunt to ever grace A&N.
These creatures scare me. At least the IQ 79 nigs have feral cunning and tend to play to their strengths, this woman is a slow-in-the-mind intellectual.

She's legit scary. I don't mean the generic troon lunacy that all troons share. Her sentence patterns are scary. Normal people don't write like this, lolcows don't write like this. Brendan Depa energy.

Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.
These are her demands to friends, no wonder she doesn't have any. "Have a twin", chef's kiss. The only one that makes sense is same age, but it's not an extra condition that further shrinks the pool, it correlates with and is completely superceded by same interests.

I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country’s locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.
Why did you poon out then?

Sometimes I see mentions of these horrid caricatures of cumsluts and sympathize with pooners a bit -- who wouldn't want to escape this? -- until I remember I've never actually seen these mythical cumsluts IRL. But if she liked this, why the fuck did she poon out?
 
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