Navigating male friendships as a trans man - Cis guys conditioned to chat about poker, women, football

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It’s uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships, but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days — and what is not wrong — and I can pinpoint various areas where masculinity still remains toxic, and areas where it doesn’t.

When I first started transitioning to be a man I hated all cisgender men: they were the bane of my existence. I was conditioned to hate cis men because they historically were the ones who repressed trans people. I found though, that when I went on testosterone and started passing as a man all the time, that people suddenly expected me to be nice to cisgender men and to be friends with them.

As a trans man, let me dissect what it’s like to find the right guy friend. Let’s first take a look at all men. Let’s say, for instance, that 70% of men are transphobic to some degree. Suddenly, I am faced with only making friends with 30% of these remaining men. Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.

I have had many cis men as friends. But even among those woke, non-transphobic men, there are a few issues that arise. The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria. In this same vein, it is difficult to talk to them about anything trans-related, because trans-related issues do not conform to cisgender culture. I’ve found that even the most well meaning, progressive men find talking about something like dysphoria awkward. Cisgender men are conditioned to make small talk about the NBA, poker, women, and football.

Perhaps I take issue with how all cisgender men are socialized, then. I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country’s locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.

It is hard to find a man who I can talk to about transphobia or bottom dysphoria. On that note, the best “male” friends I have in the current day are actually cisgender men who are secretly trans women. It’s shocking, at first, to learn that my close friend from college is secretly a trans woman. But then it’s enlightening, and it makes sense why they were so comfortable with me being trans to begin with. It’s sad, though, that the only “men” I feel the closest to are those who secretly don’t want to be men. It’s not sad in the sense that I don’t want them to transition —every bit of me wants them to transition — but it’s sad that I can’t get close to other cis men in the same way.

Most of the men I’ve talked about in this piece are straight, cis men, and I have neglected to speak about gay or queer cis men. In a previous piece for the Blade, I spoke of issues in gay men’s culture. I’ve found that there are many cisgender gay men who mean well for trans men, but that in another regard, a lot of cis gay men are socialized to cast social judgments and prioritize being skinny and fashionable instead of developing genuine friendships, especially when they are in their 20s and 30s. Instead, I’ve gravitated toward being friends with straight men mainly because I also harbor an attraction to women, and I do, admittedly, like to occasionally make raunchy and lewd jokes, and I feel less judged by straight men. Such a statement may come across as bold, but the truth is that I have very few gay male friends.

In any event, dissecting male friendships as a trans man is difficult and multifaceted, but worth it nonetheless. As a trans man, it’s fascinating to study other men, and in particular the ways in which they maintain, or don’t maintain, friendships. I am eternally perplexed by how some men make jokes and cut others out of friendship circles, but also happy that, at the end of the day, both straight and queer cisgender men can be accepting of someone like me.
 
I've never seen this, they all turn into offputting nerd-gays like this one. Male trannies become over-the-top bimbo slut caricatures of women but pooners don't slap on a snapback hat and Pit Vipers and start making 6.0 Powerstroke jokes at the BBQ.

This particular woman has a very odd vibe as @Safir mentioned, Elliot Rodger-type shit. ONLY FIVE PERCENT OF THE UPPER QUARTILE OF MOIDS MAKE SUITABLE CHUMS, ALSO MY PHALLUS HAS BEGUN TO TURN PURPLE AND FALL OFF AS NORMAL MALE PHALLUSES DO.
Ah she's in the gender autist bucket. What a shame
 
but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days
You’re a woman. You’re not a man, you can never be a man, and men will never see you as a man. You can never understand what it is to be a man any more than a Troon can understand what it is to be a woman.
Men will always act around you as if you’re a woman, because you are a woman. As a woman I can enjoy male company but I know my presence is tolerated, hopefully enjoyed in some situations because I’m a woman, and not welcomed in all male spaces or situations, because I am a woman.
When I first started transitioning to be a man I hated all cisgender men: they were the bane of my existence.
Why on earth would you do this? Why try to be what you hate? You’re insane. What strikes me about this article is how similar it is to the tranny ‘let me tell you how you’re womaning wrong’ articles
 
Why on the God's green Earth would anyone talk to their friends about that? Scratch this, how do these convesations even go? "Tee hee, I bought a cute new binder, but I still do not feel right DOWN THERE, dude. No I haven't yet yeeted my teets off", presumably followed by a limp unanswered bro-fist. And then she wonders why men are appalled.
Right after the guy nearest sniffs the air, wrinkles his face in sheer disgust, and asks: "Who brought the Durian?"
 
It's almost like you don't actually have anything to connect with people over because you're a narcissistic, mentally ill woman who only connects with other mentally ill people.
It’s this. The idea that pooners will ever be “one of the guys” is as absurd as the AGP’s complaining because wearing cheap hooker shoes and poorly applied lipstick doesn’t suddenly make women totally comfortable with them in a locker room. Having to accommodate complete insanity isn’t anyone’s idea of a good time.
Male friendships don't tend to have as much hierarchy or backstabbing drama.
Most women’s don’t either. Not past teen years. Most of us are normal humans not interested in bullshit like that either. In fact, I’ve had mixed groups of friends my entire life. It’s pooners and the “not like other girls” girls that tend to believe this. Well, that and men who are incapable of having friendships with women.
 
The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria. In this same vein, it is difficult to talk to them about anything trans-related, because trans-related issues do not conform to cisgender culture. I’ve found that even the most well meaning, progressive men find talking about something like dysphoria awkward. Cisgender men are conditioned to make small talk about the NBA, poker, women, and football.

If you try to talk about this with someone who you aren't actually that close with, they will have this type of reaction.
 
As a trans man, let me dissect what it’s like to find the right guy friend. Let’s first take a look at all men. Let’s say, for instance, that 70% of men are transphobic to some degree. Suddenly, I am faced with only making friends with 30% of these remaining men. Out of these 30% of men, some will not have the same hobbies as me, share the same interests, share the same educational background, or be in the same age bracket as me. Only 5% of these men are similar to me in some way shape or form: they might like literature, they might be smart, they might have traveled to many countries, they might also have a twin, and they might be roughly the same age, or work in the same industry.
This is fucking hilarious to me. "I can't form friendships/identify with/communicate with other people unless they're exactly like me." Talk about your "Main Character" personality. Jesus she must be tiresome.
Perhaps I take issue with how all cisgender men are socialized, then. I’ve found that cisgender, straight men are conditioned to not talk about their emotions or have conversations about love or sex. As a former woman these types of conversations were very commonplace, either in the Yale women cross country’s locker room or in small group settings with female roommates.
Men don't act like women in conversations. Also, water is wet, fire will burn you, and this woman is a sanctimonious bitch.
 
Powerlevel but I work with blue-collar men and one of the interesting things about watching them is how little chit-chat there is. They just don't do small talk. When they do talk, they can bant with the best of them, but you can walk into a room with 30 guys who all know each other and maybe four of them will be engaged in some kind of conversation, whereas a room with 30 female strangers would be talking up a storm.
This.
I absolutely adore my wife, but we've been on holidays together for 4 weeks and holy shit she talks a lot.
I'm looking forward to getting back to work just for a bit of shush.
 
No... Not really. We don't really talk about sex in my friend group. Most conversations revolve around kids. (My friends figured out how sex works, all on their own.)
Agree. I don’t talk about sex with female friends at all. I don’t think the world works like lil pooner thinks it does.
 
It’s uncommon for a columnist in any publication to write about navigating friendships, but I feel the need to talk about navigating male friendships as a transgender man. In doing so, I will highlight what is wrong with men these days — and what is not wrong — and I can pinpoint various areas where masculinity still remains toxic, and areas where it doesn’t.
Pooner thinks her opinion on men and masculinity is heckin valid. Lol, lmao even. Has your Jimmy Dean stitched sausagepenis stopped itching yet?

I have had many cis men as friends.
I thought you were "conditioned to hate them", that they were the "bane of your existence". Fucking lunatic.

The first is that I have a difficult time talking about any surgeries with them or about my bottom dysphoria.
Do you know why? Because it's disgusting and nobody wants to hear about it.

As a former woman
:story: Stop, just... stop. Enough!
 
This is how a child thinks. She is a child with a child's view on other people.

Bad parenting more than anything. Many such cases!

This.
I absolutely adore my wife, but we've been on holidays together for 4 weeks and holy shit she talks a lot.
I'm looking forward to getting back to work just for a bit of shush.
Women do be yapping. She don't know the first damn thing about being a man. Sad!
 
"She's only friends with cis-gender men that are secretly trans women."

So you can only bond with other mentally ill retards. The absolute mental gymnastics to call FTM troons cisgender. Does this fucking moron not even know what these pronouns that her and her fucking cult mean? You idiots created the term and definition and now you're trying to turn it into something else now?
 
"She's only friends with cis-gender men that are secretly trans women."

So you can only bond with other mentally ill retards. The absolute mental gymnastics to call FTM troons cisgender. Does this fucking moron not even know what these pronouns that her and her fucking cult mean? You idiots created the term and definition and now you're trying to turn it into something else now?
I think "cis-gender men that are secretly trans women" means men that have not socially or medically transitioned, or eggs that have not cracked. They seek out insecure, mentally ill men and push them toward emasculation.
 
I think "cis-gender men that are secretly trans women" means men that have not socially or medically transitioned, or eggs that have not cracked. They seek out insecure, mentally ill men and push them toward emasculation.
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I always thought it was just how a trans retard identifies a born male/female identifying with their born gender.
 
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