Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

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I always loved how Russ tries to shame Freemantle as if THEY'RE the ones acting weird. Russell's probably used to being told he's acting inappropriate and shamed, so he thinks he can just turn that around on the other side.

As if Freemantle's going to read that and say "Oh, shit! I guess we are acting weird wanting to take this lawsuit to court or arbitration. Better let him sing his love song to Heidi Klum!"
Denying Russell something he wants makes a person weird, disability hating, women hating, jealousy driven, crazy people who are part of a hate site.
Russell threatening to kill himself on your stoop if you refuse to keep talking to him and pursue legal action against him is romantic.
Respect is a one way street with Mr. Greer. All of it flows into him, none of it flows out.
 
Denying Russell something he wants makes a person weird, disability hating, women hating, jealousy driven, crazy people who are part of a hate site.
Russell threatening to kill himself on your stoop if you refuse to keep talking to him and pursue legal action against him is romantic.
Respect is a one way street with Mr. Greer. All of it flows into him, none of it flows out.
A black hole of respect, if you will.
 
I have no doubt that Russ will appeal some unfavorable ruling, whether case-ending or not, to the 10th circuit. The price will not deter him. Any judge that doesn't suck him his penis rule in favor of russ is bias. The 10th circuit may be the only time that he's ever had a 'win' in his cases, other than the lawsuit he pretended to be involved in (but wasn't). He will run back to them expecting either that the copyright lawyers return (not understanding what they were there for) or that he can pull it off himself (he cannot). Or maybe he doesn't care and he just wants to continue to be "the guy suing kiwifarms and also opening a brothel in utah"
 
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I have no doubt that Russ will appeal an unfavorable ruling, whether case-ending or not, to the 10th circuit. The price will not deter him. Any judge that doesn't suck him his penis rule in favor of russ is bias. The 10th circuit may be the only time that he's ever had a 'win' in his cases, other than the lawsuit he pretended to be involved in (but wasn't). He will run back to them expecting either that the copyright lawyers return (not understanding what they were there for) or that he can pull it off himself. Or maybe he doesn't care and he just wants to continue to be "the guy suing kiwifarms and also opening a brothel in utah"
I am still in the camp that thinks the judge is fully aware of this and is playing the long game with Russ, so that when Russ appeals there's almost no way the 10th can find some reason to throw it back down again. Dot all the Is and cross all the Ts.

Gibs me those rainbows, I'm making a wall hanging.
 
I am still in the camp that thinks the judge is fully aware of this and is playing the long game with Russ, so that when Russ appeals there's almost no way the 10th can find some reason to throw it back down again. Dot all the Is and cross all the Ts.

Gibs me those rainbows, I'm making a wall hanging.
I'd like to think that too. However, I don't know the motivation for a judge to do this. If it's some pride thing, like not wanting to have one more overruled decision on their record, I can understand, even if I dislike it. But if it's in any way shape or form a generic "judicial economy" thing then it makes no sense because it's probably cheaper to take that shot when you have a retard like Russel who is intentionally wasting the time of literally everyone involved. Either way, at SOME POINT, the judge has to go "fuck this, if it comes back it comes back" unless he is a literal saint with infinite patience.
 
Remember, it wasn't this Judge that got overturned by the 10th, that was Tina Campbell who recused herself, which Russ touts as an admission she ruled wrong!

Jared C. Bennett has no bruised ego over the return, and probably doesn't live in fear the 10th will send it back down.

He did, however, get forced to eat shit by Florida sending the case back when he was already sick of Russ, and Russ has reminded him of the transfer back from Florida many times!
 
Jared C. Bennett has no bruised ego over the return, and probably doesn't live in fear the 10th will send it back down.
Bennett doesn't have to worry about anything because almost everything important for purposes of an appeal will have to get signed off on by the District Court. Some district judges are more likely to just adopt entirely the R&R of the magistrate judge but I don't know if that's the case here.
 
The 10th circuit may be the only time that he's ever had a 'win' in his cases, other than the lawsuit he pretended to be involved in (but wasn't).

I wouldn't even give that to Greer as it was the Digital Justice Foundation that did all of the work there. Even ignoring that the vast majority of the claims (including the ones that he really wanted to press) were thrown out so I find it hard to consider it a win, particularly in light of how badly the case has been handled since then and how much Russ has embarrassed himself in pursuing it. Just because Null lost doesn't necessarily mean that Greer won.
 
I remember in the Swift book Russell says something like "America is a common law system, counties look to other counties, states to other states"

So in Russ's mind, it makes total sense to cite a case from another state that isn't even in the same circuit, it's common law!
It'd be understandable if this were a novel situation, but it's not and russ is just trying to undo the precedent of the circuit lol
 
I really hope Hardin hammers this fact home again and again going forward.
The only reason this case even (spitting in the face of the letter of the law) got sent back to Utah was Russhole's lies about imaginary witnesses who don't even exist.
I remember in the Swift book Russell says something like "America is a common law system, counties look to other counties, states to other states"
That is actually true, even though I don't think Russhole fully grasps why this is. I think he is misinterpreting what "common law" actually means, although a lot of people, even intelligent people, often do. There is, however, a weight of authority from precedent. There's binding precedent, which is what a court is obligated to follow, and that is generally published opinions from a court superior to them. There's stare decisis, where a court, even the Supreme Court, has some deference to its own prior decisions even when it has the authority to overrule its own previous decisions.

After that, though, the lower level is persuasive authority. At the top of that is other courts interpreting the same body of law. Some of that authority is more persuasive than others. For instance, an opinion written by Richard Posner, formerly of the Seventh Circuit (and probably one of the smartest judges never to be on SCOTUS), would be at least taken very seriously by another court even if it ultimately declined to adopt his view.

Well below that are state court opinions from other states about their own state's laws.

Beneath even that, you have opinions from foreign countries or from long-dead English judges about long-standing principles of law. You will indeed sometimes see citations to judges like Aharon Barak, formerly President of Israel's Supreme Court, or Lord Denning, or similar grey eminences. This kind of authority is rarely cited as the underlying basis for a decision, and more to bolster the opinion's merit as somehow following a universal tradition of law or deriving from the very basics.

At the very bottom, you have things like treatises and legal dictionaries and authorities that are tertiary at best and mostly synthesize the opinions of others.

And at the very bottom below the very bottom, you have things like law review articles and stuff like that. Don't underestimate even that, though. The Supreme Court, and specifically Antonin Scalia, the author of the opinion in D.C. v Heller, liberally cribbed from and directly cited Eugene Volokh's law review article The Commonplace Second Amendment.

So while my opinion of Russ's legal acumen remains low, he displays at least enough ability to understand basic concepts that his continual pleas of being too dumb a retard to understand what courts or adverse parties are requesting of him are absolute utter bullshit.

He knows what he's doing. His ratface doesn't excuse that.
 
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I remember in the Swift book Russell says something like "America is a common law system, counties look to other counties, states to other states"

So in Russ's mind, it makes total sense to cite a case from another state that isn't even in the same circuit, it's common law!

Greer is correct that it makes sense to cite cases from other states; if what he cited were applicable to his particular case it would support his argument. The retardation is in not realizing not only that the cases are operating under different rules of civil procedure but that the ruling was against a party engaging in the same conduct as he is.
 
The retardation is in not realizing not only that the cases are operating under different rules of civil procedure but that the ruling was against a party engaging in the same conduct as he is.
Acerthorn just did this exact same thing when demanding a lawyer be appointed for him. The case he cited denied a lawyer and the circumstances were very different as well.
 
Acerthorn just did this exact same thing when demanding a lawyer be appointed for him. The case he cited denied a lawyer and the circumstances were very different as well.
See, this is how I know Russ' school was shit. In my legal research class we were not only told how to look up any and all cases that might apply to our theoretical legal problem our attorney boss gave us, but how to actually read the decision to determine which cases would actually apply.

Our big, semester long project was to do a big formal brief for our hypothetical boss on a topic of our choosing (with our teachers approval) and write up the research we found and how it applies to the topic. We were graded on the quality of the analysis and how relevant those cases we cited were. Based on Russ' filings he would have failed that assignment, and thus the class. I suspect it's a common trait in litigious lolcows.

(That was my favorite class, bar none.)
 
See, this is how I know Russ' school was shit. In my legal research class we were not only told how to look up any and all cases that might apply to our theoretical legal problem our attorney boss gave us, but how to actually read the decision to determine which cases would actually apply.

Our big, semester long project was to do a big formal brief for our hypothetical boss on a topic of our choosing (with our teachers approval) and write up the research we found and how it applies to the topic. We were graded on the quality of the analysis and how relevant those cases we cited were. Based on Russ' filings he would have failed that assignment, and thus the class. I suspect it's a common trait in litigious lolcows.

(That was my favorite class, bar none.)

Or, and hear me out on this...Shit-Lips is just a massive moron with a bad case of Dunning-Kruger who believes he knows more than anyone else on the particular topic, including his instructors, and he could take the best law class in the world and he still wouldn't absorb the subject matter properly. Other people took the same course from the same teacher and came out just fine. It might not be a great course, but it's probably on par with the same course through your average community college. The school is accredited after all.
 
See, this is how I know Russ' school was shit. In my legal research class we were not only told how to look up any and all cases that might apply to our theoretical legal problem our attorney boss gave us, but how to actually read the decision to determine which cases would actually apply.
Did they teach you now to NOT cite cases that would apply but hurt your argument?

Because Russ has sometimes found applicable cases that directly rule against what he wants, ha!
 
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