Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

When will the Judge issue a ruling regarding the Motion to Dismiss?

  • This Month

    Votes: 67 14.4%
  • Next Month

    Votes: 56 12.0%
  • This Year

    Votes: 73 15.7%
  • Next Year

    Votes: 156 33.5%
  • Whenever he issues an update to the sanctions

    Votes: 113 24.3%

  • Total voters
    465
I love how Hardin is milking the most he can out of the $225!

DEFINITELY what happened was Null sent the check to DJF (like Russ told them to) and they kept the money because they're the ones who did the printing.

All Hardin has to do is show the check and say "take it up with them" but instead, look how much mileage he's gotten out of it! He asked for the first extension, shitposting about the true meaning of Christmas, Russ called it ironic without opposing as before, and Hardin got the extension. But this time it was Null getting an extension on something Russ wanted, the $225. Then Hardin wrings the Wyoming address out of him with "but where will we send your $225?", still didn't send it and made a motion out of that Russ had to respond to, crying a lawyer was being tricky and twisting his words! Then he asks for another extension, over two months, and Russ loses his shit! Russ finally gets a taste of his own medicine and hates it! He thinks the $225 he was awarded that could buy him at least one night in a warm motel, or a quickie with a cheap lot lizard, that he's been owed for over year got pushed back another 3 MONTHS!

Russell thought he was throwing a bombshell, but he really gave Hardin a carrot to constantly pull away from him on a string. "Want that $225 to get you rocks off? Too bad! Not until Jan 15 because Christmas or something idk." "Want that $225? Better give me a real address for once. Too bad! That just gave me ammo to use against you in court." "Excited for Jan 15th so you can get the $225 to stave off the car you live and work in getting repossessed, leaving you sleeping in a cardboard box? TOO BAD! Now you have to wait until Feb 28th! But maybe if you do a few more filings and some more things you're supposed to anyway, you just might get it this time! DANCE MONKEY DANCE!!!"

On Feb 28th, I suspect Hardin will ask for another extension etc. Imagine how pissed Russ'll be when he jumps through all the hoops and there is no $225 pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, "Surprise! It went to DJF, which we could've told you in the beginning, take it up with them!"
 
He has the Batsignal for the 10th circuit is what you're saying? Delusional.
You’re from Utah so I understand the homeland defense, but Russ is a legal genius (or genus?) unlike anything anyone has ever seen.

Russ has had motions filed for him by opposing council. He is a 44DD mastermind whilst we’re still fumbling around with wooden blocks.
 
The likelyhood of that being true is strong enough that Russ should make a motion about it, and probably let the 10th know. His judge participating in the very hardship forum is likely proof he’s bias.
If we're [Un?]lucky enough he'll accuse Useful Mistake and they'll win the lolcow legal trifecta.
 
To : Russel Greer
c/o Santa Claus
The North Pole
Don't be a vexatious litigant or you'll get sanctions in your stocking
With what money? Even pro se, it's not cheap and it's clear Russ is hurting for cash.
His victory in the 10th was only done because actual lawyers did everything for him for free no way he is going to be able to pull something off 1% like that with the 10th again.

The most that can happen is this case continuing to Yo-Yo around but already the Judge seems to be getting tired of that.

Insert obligatory section about optimism and how every time I've been optimistic in this case it has blown up in my face.
 
Like Greer can understand subtext, lmao.
I am reminded of this:
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Lately I've been going through the main Greer thread, shitposting and getting caught up on Greer lore. Reading the filings from the America's Got Talent suit, I was struck by just how similar things read; Greer is doing exactly the same shit as before. For those only following this case, and unfamiliar with Greer lore, check out these filings from defense counsel from the America's Got Talent case.

A choice excerpt:
The judge said in her November order that I already satisfied a discrimination complaint. And although you say I can’t prove discrimination, the judge already thinks I have shown that. Also, the ADA statute defines discrimination as failing to make a modification to a policy or practice, which Fremantle and marathon failed to do when my contract attorney sent them a request back in April. So the best argument you have is that the release I signed bars me from suing, which I have Strong argument to show the delegation clause is unconscionable.

With that said, since my 3k dollar act was written about Heidi Klum, let’s have the show judge decide whether she likes it or not and not an arbiter or a court judge.

It’s honestly that simple
[Emphassis mine]

Greer is taking some bit of favorable ruling earlier in the case and interpreting it to mean that basically he's already won, and what the defense is supposed to do is just give him what he wants, just like now. The 10th Circuit said he'd made a possible claim of copyright infringement, so why won't just Josh settle, and delete his thread?

Or note this bit:
We have reviewed your proposed Second Amended Complaint and do not object to your seeking leave to amend your complaint to add Marathon as a party. Because this is your second amended complaint you will need to seek leave (i.e. request permission) from the Court pursuant to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 15(a)(2). Assuming that you make no further changes to your proposed Second Amended Complaint, you may note for the Court that Fremantle does not oppose your request to amend your complaint. As per the parties’ stipulation, which was so-ordered by the court, we’d like to meet and confer with you about both Fremantle’s and Marathon’s responses to the complaint. Molly had to travel unexpectedly yesterday and today but she’ll be in touch next week.
As an initial matter, we ask again that you comply with your agreement to arbitrate this dispute. Should you continue to refuse to do so, we will have no choice but to move to compel arbitration and, in conjunction with our motion, reserve our right to seek our fees and costs in conjunction therewith, as the motion should not have been necessary. That said, should you proceed with your proposed Second Amended Complaint (“SAC”), we ask that you send us the revised draft so that we can confirm we are on the same page. We don’t anticipate any issues and will get back to you promptly.

Separately, as noted in the stipulation that was entered by the Court earlier this month, we would like to meet and confer with you about our deadline to respond to your SAC as well as your amended motion for a preliminary injunction.
Please stop threatening me with arbitration and attorneys fees. You can thank your clients for having such a vague and
confusing arbitration agreement. I am not accepting arbitration because I didn’t specifically agree to arbitrate my civil rights claims. No where in that agreement did it mention me arbitrating my civil rights. Nelson v. Cyprus Bagdad Copper Corp (9th Cir. 1997). A person signing the agreement must explicitly agree to waive the specific right in question. That is controlling law in this circuit! Your clients further shot themselves in the foot by not having any way for a person to ask a question when signing the agreement, thus forcing them in a take it or leave it position.

I have offered you the least expensive option and that is signing the stipulation to dismiss and me go on the show. Because I wrote a song about the show judge, right? So let’s have that judge decide if she likes it and not a court judge or an arbitrator like you are oddly insisting for

Your clients‘ actions with this are just further proving my point: their claims of diversity are hallow. It is so insulting for
your team to say that tons of people audition and don’t make it. Were they disabled? Did they have to invest money to
EVEN COMPETE?

Also, if they don’t want to sign the stipulation, I have a few news reporters lined up who are interested in covering this. I
know big orgs like Fremantle and Marathon hate bad publicity.

So I have the major pieces in this game of chess. Again, I ask that Marathon/Fremantle sign the stipulation and we
resolve this quietly because I’m pretty hurt by my treatment by your clients and have done my best to keep this on the
hush-hush.
[Again, Emphasis mine]

Just like now, with Hardin trying to deal with Shit Lips, defense counsel is trying to meet and confer, and Greer is blowing it off, despite court rules. And just as with Hardin trying to contact Greer about various matters relevant to the case, and Greer whining about being harassed, so similarly does Greer whine at AGT defense counsel to stop threatening him with fees. Finally, just like Greer's current filings, the smugness just oozes from the email. Just give him what he wants, already, or he'll tattle on you. In the AGT case, he threatened to tattle to reporters. In this one, he threatens to tattle to the 10th Circuit again.

I'd say there's an established pattern of behavior here when it comes to willful recalcitrance.

Russhole had better hope that his correspondence with defense counsel from the AGT case don't end up on record in this case as well. Or really, anything from his previous cases which illustrate his patterns of bad faith behavior. Such would be good defense exhibits in support of sanctions in the form of things like cost shifting, dismissal with prejudice, and declaring Russ to be a vexatious litigant.
 
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So we haven't got a filing by Hardin over russ not phoning into the meet and confer, I guess it happened.

He's probably compiling the many ways what Russ said doesn't count as a useful conference and no information was conveyed. In a week, I expect some version of "Notice to the court: plaintiff promised to provide an official list of evidence within 7 days and hasn't done so". Followed by Russ saying he DID do so with a short email, followed by a response showing the half dozen ways what Russ sent doesn't comply with the rules.
 
So we haven't got a filing by Hardin over russ not phoning into the meet and confer, I guess it happened.
Filing would take some time, and considering the last time Hardin notified the judge Greer was late Greer """"complied"""" 2 hours late, I can see Hardin being a bit apprehensive to bring yet another example of recalcitrance to the judge. I also don't know if it's beneficial to do it, I could see that bringing every single fuckup of Greer might be seen as "petty". Then again, if the judge doesn't see it then there's zero chance for sanctions.
I'm thinking it didn't happen, Hardin is just keeping it in the chamber still.
 
Because I wrote a song about the show judge, right? So let’s have that judge decide if she likes it and not a court judge or an arbitrator like you are oddly insisting for
I always loved how Russ tries to shame Freemantle as if THEY'RE the ones acting weird. Russell's probably used to being told he's acting inappropriate and shamed, so he thinks he can just turn that around on the other side.

As if Freemantle's going to read that and say "Oh, shit! I guess we are acting weird wanting to take this lawsuit to court or arbitration. Better let him sing his love song to Heidi Klum!"
 
I'm guessing we aren't getting those case ending sanctions for all the lunacy by Greer. It would have saved the trouble/money hours wasted with another meet and confer attempt, and would make the need for an extension Christopher Poole. I do hope Greer gets slapped with a bill for his behavior and lack of decorum though.

I get that the court has infinite pity for the little guy, but he is really quite rude in his filings. It's like he thinks that righteous indignation combined with plightsplaning is a way to act in a manner that just isn't befitting a functioning adult in court.
 
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