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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

I've heard this exact line from relatives who were all LUV ARE NHS a couple of years ago. It seems to be catching on.

And it will be abused to allow the blights on society to get to the front of the queue and everyone who's a functioning tax-payer will be told "you need to pay for the fast access."

 

[Otterly]

Finding, training and retaining competent people is the elephant in the room. If staff aren't valued then why would they stay?

Having spoken to staff at these places, they were all pretty happy working there. They were well run, and I assume less political than the Byzantine nightmare that is the nhs. The body preventing more uk doctors being trained is the BMA, who operate like a medieval guild.

It does make you wonder if running the NHS into the ground until the public are begging for at least semi-privatisation has been the plan all along.

Yes, I think it is. And we won’t do private involvement well either because we never do. Some European countries tried gave this very well delineate niche the private sector works in and it seems to work. We will just carve bits off and sell it and it’ll be a mess, like PPP building hospitals.

 

[the rat]

I gotta say, despire his geographical disability, I really do sympathize with Starmer. Having to deal with all these racist rightoids whinging about supposed "Pakistani Rape Gangs" when there's literally no evidence to support it is just as wild as Trump's whole "Haitians are eating cats in Ohio" senility.

Maybe one day the British will be able to hold themselves to some form of accountability instead of blaming all their problems on others.

Left this right that while children are being raped and every politician+journoscum enable and likely practice it alongside those mudslimes they so desperately protect.

I hope people like you fucking die.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

dedicated diagnostic centers

I went to an 'Urgent Care Centre' on one occasion after ringing 999 for something. The response was '4 hours for an ambulance or if you can drive to this not-quite-a-hospital you'll be seen immediately. This was on a Sunday morning at around 7am.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

We need a service where you can go and drop in, PAY 25 quid or whatever to keep the frequent flyers and paracetamol on prescription crowd away, and just get a sore throat swabbed, or a bumped wrist checked.

That’s by and large what GPs should be doing. They just aren’t. Instead of taking 5 second on the frequent flyers they are taking 10mins

Punishing people for the GPs not doing their job I do not think will help.

Set up the Local Pharmacy to come round with the repeat Meds or tell the person to contact over the phone.

There are a billion things the practices could be doing other than charging to solve the problem but they are lazy so don’t.

The fact that it took covid for them to go ‘hey, we could do a lot of stuff by phone and email, it would take no time’ is honestly shocking.

 

[FedPostalService]

That’s by and large what GPs should be doing. They just aren’t. Instead of taking 5 second on the frequent flyers they are taking 10mins

Holy shit. I needed a sick line when I was fucked with covid. They wouldn’t do it over the phone, which used to be normal.

They made me come in for an appointment, which I thought was retarded when they first asked as I was not only too ill to leave the house but contagious, only to find out the first appointment was three weeks later, which lead to three weeks of pestering from HR for my sick line.

I sat down, still fucked but able move and work, expecting a check up. Nope. I was out after a few minutes. I could have told her anything and I would have still got the sick line, it was a colossal waste of fucking time and could have been done on the phone and saved me a ton of stress but they had to do it in the most retarded way possible.

 

[BongoMongo]

It does make you wonder if running the NHS into the ground until the public are begging for at least semi-privatisation has been the plan all along.

It makes a change from the usual narrative that we can’t complain about shit care, widespread incompetence and total neglect because “it’s free tho “

Of course it is. Why else did you think they scrapped NHS dentistry and ear syringing over COVID? You could not see anyone on NHS for it, because LE COOF bit if you were willing to pay then LE COOf and the threat vanished.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

and could have been done on the phone and saved me a ton of stress but they had to do it in the most retarded way possible.

It truly is utterly bonkers.

Most of the sick line can be dealt with easy and yet they just do not.

All of the medical dramas repeatedly scream ‘these people are annoying and you should not deal with them’ but we do. For no reason.

 

[FedPostalService]

It truly is utterly bonkers.

Most of the sick lone can be dealt with easy and yet they just do not.

All of the medical dramas repeatedly scream ‘these people are annoying and you should not deal with them’ but we do. For no reason.

I’m never sick. That was the first time I’ve seen a doctor in over twenty years. I fail to understand the logic. I took up the appointment of someone who needed it.


The whole sick note thing is a scam when it’s that easy to get too.


Just let me fill in an online form if that’s the case. Nope, instead have to sit in a room waiting surrounded by sick people to go sit in another room for two minutes whilst a doctor fills two lines on a form.

I‘m not sure how GP surgeries work. Do they bill the NHS for seeing people?

 

[Free the Pedos]

Are there private urgent cares in the UK?

 

[bort420]

GP's are in a very fucked up system where they are contracted by the NHS in a byzantine way that results in the worst possible outcomes

and the sclerotic nature of the NHS prevents them from changing it. so they leave.

 

[A-Logato]

Is there anywhere you can find a compiled list or write up of what the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs did to the girls? I have some unaware and/or in denial friends and family that need educating on the issue.

 

[Midwit]

with politically disfavoured talking points placed into the mouths of reprehensible characters, in order to discredit those views by association.

Jokes on them, everybody loved Gene Hunt

Are there private urgent cares in the UK?

Doubtlessly, the issue is that there aren't enough to provide the coverage needed to offset the demand on NHS facilities.

 

[Allo Vera]

Is there anywhere you can find a compiled list or write up of what the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs did to the girls? I have some unaware and/or in denial friends and family that need educating on the issue.

This would be a start - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content...ments/sentencing-remarks-r-v-dogar-others.pdf

Page 11 is particularly harrowing.

 

[The Gene Genie]

Jokes on them, everybody loved Gene Hunt

Everyone loves the Guv.

 

[Bloom Worm Cross Field]

Is there anywhere you can find a compiled list or write up of what the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs did to the girls? I have some unaware and/or in denial friends and family that need educating on the issue.

I made a quick list of high-dose instant redpills related to the matter here, it's mostly unsourced but I tried to restrict it to things that are easily verifiable with some Googling skill.

This is just one section from the sentencing remarks of one gang in one town (girls were drugged, raped 4 at a time, beaten and raped with baseball bats, branded with their abusers' initials next to their anus, and more).

Here (source 1, source 2) is a report of a single young girl in Oldham who was raped over and over again by four separate groups of Pakistani men. It's like a bad dream. Every single time she turned to someone new for help they took her in and raped her. Gives you a sense of how all-pervasive throughout the communities these people are.

Here (threadreader) is a thread that focuses more on just some aspects of the coverup.

 

[Kier Starmer]

In my academic career even now I am trying to publish papers about how small charges will benefit the NHS but also psudo Pharmacies that act as a bridge. Putting a charge immediately stems the flow or you have a form of insurance, so say for example if you are a UK student or a UK National annually you pay a charge. I believe UK home students would get this insurance covered in their student loan. If you go to any country that operates like this it is so much better. I am very pro putting a cap on specifically Indians migrating not only due to cultural risks due to Pakis but also job satuaration and quality reasons. If you create a surge in Indian diagnostics it will make salaries crater which they already have but it means nation born doctors and gps will leave as a lot have even 1st generation Indians look at the newer ones with disgust. We have to say it as a whole India is the new China in terms of numbers and they are trying to leave their hovel of a country and turn all ours to shit too.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Are there private urgent cares in the UK?

Naturally.

You are probably still going through NHS A+E as first port of call but yes, yes there are.

The problem is and has been for ages coverage.

We don’t have enough people to treat everyone that needs it.

It takes years to train and it is such a hard job that doctors can and will burn out.

So we aren’t training enough and those that we are might just quit.

But people don’t stop getting ill.

Even if we fixed the coverage problem going foward it would take years to show results. About 7.

To say nothing of the lack of private providers. But we are honestly moving as fast as we can in that regard.

The big hurdle will be staff.

 

[BongoMongo]

Naturally.

You are probably still going through NHS A+E as first port of call but yes, yes there are.

The problem is and has been for ages coverage.

We don’t have enough people to treat everyone that needs it.

It takes years to train and it is such a hard job that doctors can and will burn out.

So we aren’t training enough and those that we are might just quit.

But people don’t stop getting ill.

Even if we fixed the coverage problem going foward it would take years to show results. About 7.

To say nothing of the lack of private providers. But we are honestly moving as fast as we can in that regard.

The big hurdle will be staff.

Also in England we used to offer bursaries for students doing allied healthcare professional degrees (nursing of all bents, podiatry, audiology, optometry, pharmacy, physio to name a few).

2016 was the last cohort to receive these. They were small but meant that, in instances where students had to work, it was not a huge amount and meant they could juggle their work load when doing their placements too.

Some utter fucking genius scrapped those. If they'd had any sense they would have kept them and added a requirement to do 10 years work in the NHS at least or have to pay it all back.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Some utter fucking genius scrapped those. If they'd had any sense they would have kept them and added a requirement to do 10 years work in the NHS at least or have to pay it all back.

Indeed. ‘Hey, we likely covered your costs and got you a job for life but since you are going to be working in the NHS majorly anyway, if you can manage a decade we will cover the rest’ would not have been a hard sell.

Probably ‘we had to, we have no money because we mismanaged it horribly and spent it on bs’