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Like for fucks sake kid. Just ask her out already, get your answer, and go from there
He does ask her out, she's mentally sheltered from being frozen in ice since she was seven so she replies that she can't just say yes when she doesn't know what love between a man and a woman actually means.
He also wants to save Rem from being in a coma first before any serious romantic development, so he agrees to take it slow.
The anime doesn't explain certain things enough at times and cut most scenes that explain this for some reason, but Subaru actually does love Rem. Isekai are notorious for half adapting things like this, goes back to the point that it's not as accessible as people would think.
 
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My opinion of Re:Zero has nothing to do with the waifu wars or worldbuilding. I just am tired of Subaru doing the same thing over and over again and dying until he believes hard enough that it works. For someone who's suffered so much due to his actions, you'd think he'd learn to be more careful about the choices he makes and make an effort to solve problems more intelligently. Instead, it's just the same stupidity over and over again until it finally works.

Subaru failing the first time was a subversion of the audience's expectations because you expect the isekai hero to stomp everything in his way into paste. By the ten gazillionth time, it's frustrating. If you really wanted to take apart the isekai genre, you'd have him learn from his mistakes and how to use his strengths. Instead, we just get an unlikable idiot bumbling to his doom over and over again because Nagatsuki can't develop a character to save his life. Re:Zero is one of the few series I've watched where one single character has made me stop watching it.
 
My opinion of Re:Zero has nothing to do with the waifu wars or worldbuilding. I just am tired of Subaru doing the same thing over and over again and dying until he believes hard enough that it works. For someone who's suffered so much due to his actions, you'd think he'd learn to be more careful about the choices he makes and make an effort to solve problems more intelligently. Instead, it's just the same stupidity over and over again until it finally works.

Subaru failing the first time was a subversion of the audience's expectations because you expect the isekai hero to stomp everything in his way into paste. By the ten gazillionth time, it's frustrating. If you really wanted to take apart the isekai genre, you'd have him learn from his mistakes and how to use his strengths. Instead, we just get an unlikable idiot bumbling to his doom over and over again because Nagatsuki can't develop a character to save his life. Re:Zero is one of the few series I've watched where one single character has made me stop watching it.
Rezero just doesn't fucking get anywhere. It does the usual sin of Isekai of having an exponentially increasing "deep lore" and character count. At some point you want a solution to the mystery rather than literally hours of cocktease ending in more questions. Having everyone but Subaru forget the loops means even character development is not kept between arc, so it's a literal cocktease. Killing off Rem for the crime of gaining character development showed that the author is hellbent on getting his way and will not change the story even if it does not make sense anymore.

In comparison, a Visual Novel has an ending, and it would usually let you have more fun with extended "Doomed" dead ends (sometimes combining it with heroine endings). Rezero is just not fun.
 
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Chainsaw Man is one of the best mangas ever. I know it's basically jap superhero bullshit but the characters make up for it 100%. The relationship between Makami and Denji alone is a phenomenal tale of puppy love. Though the story becomes a little like wet paper near the end of the first arc. Lots of cool characters just stop mattering to the story and basically nobody stops to remember them like a real person would. And at some point the fights just stop making sense and feel like those imaginary games you'd play as a kid where one kid says "im stronger. i win" while the other kid goes "no im stronger. i win." Still, its a fun story all the way through. Anyways my point is if you like weird animes then go read it.
 
He does ask her out, she's mentally sheltered from being frozen in ice since she was seven so she replies that she can't just say yes when she doesn't know what love between a man and a woman actually means.
He also wants to save Rem from being in a coma first before any serious romantic development, so he agrees to take it slow.
The anime doesn't explain certain things enough at times and cut most scenes that explain this for some reason, but Subaru actually does love Rem. Isekai are notorious for half adapting things like this, goes back to the point that it's not as accessible as people would think.
The anime was a horrible first impression since it was overdoing the random death compilations of Subaru being bodied by level 1 morrowind creatures. Guess that's where all the budget went. Did not inspire me to go read the manga like Gangsta's anime did scratching the itch for more black lagoon.

Subaru failing the first time was a subversion of the audience's expectations because you expect the isekai hero to stomp everything in his way into paste. By the ten gazillionth time, it's frustrating. If you really wanted to take apart the isekai genre, you'd have him learn from his mistakes and how to use his strengths. Instead, we just get an unlikable idiot bumbling to his doom over and over again because Nagatsuki can't develop a character to save his life. Re:Zero is one of the few series I've watched where one single character has made me stop watching it.
Sounds similar to my experience too. I get needing to retrace your steps during every loop but he basically does the Darksydephil approach of attempting to facetank everything over and over and beg Emilia for attention/tips until he succeeds. Just for the goal posts to be moved yet again with an ever expanding shallow cast and another bad guy of the week to facetank instead of any actual character development with the maid twins or the relationship between Subaru and Emilia. The shock value of everyone being genocided really wore off its shock value after the first few times in the same episode.

Like how the hell is anyone left standing if its THIS common to just come home to the entire town being wiped out? Humanity would never have gotten past the stone age even with magic.
 
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It does the usual sin of Isekai of having an exponentially increasing "deep lore" and character count. At some point you want a solution to the mystery rather than literally hours of cocktease ending in more questions.
Just for the goal posts to be moved yet again with an ever expanding shallow cast and another bad guy of the week to facetank instead of any actual character development with the maid twins or the relationship between Subaru and Emilia
I think Nagatsuki has some talent with worldbuilding, but he got too wrapped up in going into lore minutiae and forgot the people inhabiting his world have to be interesting and likeable. So 90% of the second season is hours upon hours of lore and backstory and then Subaru does the exact same thing he did over and over and over again but this time he believes really hard so problem solved.

Nagatsuki is just not that great of a writer. He has his opinions (a REAL person being isekai'd would be a cringy loser who always fails!) and he's gonna make his point even if the character writing suffers. Re:Zero only got popular in the first place because it came out right at the exact time when people were getting sick of the isekai formula, so everyone ate the books where the loser MC fails and dies up. If it came out a year before or later, no one would have cared and some other mediocre author screed would have taken its place as the WOAH ISEKAI DECONSTRUCTION.
 
Japanese artists know what their public wants and are not afraid to give it to us. Gaijins caught on and now we got shit like MiSide.
I wish Brazilian indie devs could've done something as interesting as MiSide.
And what's worse: MiSide is a game made by two Russian dudes. Russia is well known for creating a fuckton of shovelware games.
What is our fucking excuse?
 
Excuse me?
I'm sick of this principles shit. Also thanks for bringing back the wrestlers just to job them out.
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Also re this isekai discussion, the majority is trash of the comfy variety(like if you find it fun that's your deal, I hated Solo Leveling because I'm not a fan of the long strip/webtoon reading format but the anime is sufficiently well produced enough that I find it a decent watch every week. Ditto with the Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic and a couple of those comedic "villainess" anime) but there are some manga I found that I stood out to me personally.

you can find most of the decent quality translations of these on batoto or mangasee/weebcentral

  • Nothing truly groundbreaking about this one except for the fact that it takes the new world and the reincarnation as an actual adventure. Will gets a squad of bros, is very physically strong but needs to be guided by various side characters and of the two arcs that went on, the dragon/dwarf mountain one felt like a genuine epic in anime form and was one of the most entertaining adventures I've read in a while. The anime's a bit shit, and apparently we're close to the end of the light novels and there aren't many manga chapters to begin with.
  • I've seen some comparisons to lord of the rings and I can definitely understand it, it's just a fellowship of bros going on adventures
  • Also "official" translations began recently so at least there's a silver lining in volume extras.
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  • Where every other healing isekai decides to just make it omnipotent, the MC in question here is a surgeon and someone on the author's team clearly has some experience or some consultant because they go into some indepth(for a manga, but still) detail on surgeries, with every other chapter being like 80+ pages of very beautiful(or at least distinct) art of the operation(there's very little gore now that I think about it) while still having a fairly compelling other world with it's own set of politics and interesting characters.
    • Is on a monthly release because I'm guessing the art. I binged the whole thing a while ago and none of the chapters felt like filler artwise.
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One of the more generic isekai settings, MC's super strong, adventurer's guild, based on a game, big titty not-harem, but the gimmick now is the MC is a speedrunner who knows this world inside out and is going to break it in half with bugs and speedrunning. Very comedic, very entertaining. It has a fair amount of big boobied women fanservice, though.

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Again one of the more generic settings but I like the premise/art a lot. The main character is a hard headed karate master(the magical kind of karate) who will karate everything into karate karate. Just really cool fight scenes and plays around with the isekai races having their own familiar fighting styles(like one of the elves fights with Taekwando infused with wind magic, the lizardman here is a kickboxer who also uses his tail).

Updates fairly slowly and unfortunately the only group translating it has these ugly watermarks in every other page. Also has one of those not-harems where everyone in the party clearly wants his dick but he's too dense and married to karate to actually care.

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Again a somewhat generic isekai setup(guilds/adventurers/dungeons/based on an MMO/game ; but no harem and both leads, Elymas and Luce are very fun with Luce being a very entertaining character) but the MC has played the game and knows a lot about the jobs and classes and how you can make cool builds in the game. the art is pretty distinct(kind of funny looking faces) and the actual fights/arcs are pretty fun.
Out of all the "generics" I think this one is my favorite, the characters, plot, build and action chapters are really good, and I quite like the art and faces compared to the generic anime look.

Is supposed to have an anime soon but it's by Gohands who really love their artsy camera movement so I'm a bit concerned.

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The "isekai is hell" subgenre:
Another isekai'd karate master, this time it's a lot more grounded. Adventuring is cut throat with both fellow adventurers and village requesters doing everything to gain an edge over you, friends are hard to come by, fucking with the noble or gang leader of a town means you have to skedaddle, survival is tough.

All around very enjoyable to read, but the later arcs/chapters are translated by a different group that again has ugly watermarks and the scan quality isn't as good. Maybe that changed. Also slow to update.
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Isekai War is hell. MC gets reincarnated into fantasy magic land where a huge war is raging between the Highserk empire against what looks like the rest of the continent.

Unfortunately it updates quite slowly and after chapter 15 two new translation groups took over and they're both extremely shit with their translations and slow. Just as things were getting really interesting too, damn.

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Finally, a Not-Isekai just for good measure

Full disclosure, this has the most generic premise/plot out of them all.

The main character Claus has a "weakest but actually strongest" skill: Auto mode which lets him automatically do something. Gather resources, returning home, or fight. The thing is, automatically, means it'll be completely laser focused on that and will result in ridiculous stunts and almost impossible feats to achieve that result. Meaning, the real value of this manga is the art, in which every major battle is drawn absolutely beautifully and with some creative setpieces like fighting a massive dragon with a set of cookware made from some indestructible material MC had bought for his sister as a gift.
It's also pretty funny.

Unfortunately it's somewhat slow to update, everyone looks like an anime potato and it has a not-harem(which includes the not-blood-related sister)
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Brazilian indie devs
I'm not brazlian but I'll stand up for them. That one dev team made some fun retro games.
  • Odallus The Dark Call
  • Blazing Chrome
  • Vengeful Guardian Moonrider
There's also The Lecarde Chronicles 2 but I admit everything else Migi's made is mediocre.
 
This week episode of autistic doctor is kind of a letdown. Hopefully it will spread the mysteries over multiple episodes since a mystery of the week format doesn't have a lot of room to develop.
I wish Brazilian indie devs could've done something as interesting as MiSide.
And what's worse: MiSide is a game made by two Russian dudes. Russia is well known for creating a fuckton of shovelware games.
What is our fucking excuse?
Russian devs: Life is depressing, let's make something not depressing.
Western devs: Media is telling me to feel depressed, let's make a game about depression.

Also wishlisted MiSide, because I remember seeing it mentioned in other places.
 
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[INSERT RETRO GAME FRANCHISE]-like games are something that Brazilian Indie community is filled to the brim. These are the kind of games that live in the shadow of the franchise they're plagiarizing because the first thing people take notice is "Huh, this game plays like Contra/Castlevania/Dark Souls/Resident Evil/whatever" and that's the gist of it.

Sure, MiSide theme-wise and story-wise don't offer anything new. But these Russian devs managed to combine already estabilished game mechanics and make something out of it.

The only Brazilian title that managed to make something like that is Spark the Electric Jester.
There's also The Lecarde Chronicles 2 but I admit everything else Migi's made is mediocre.
Of course, the work that most stands out in their portfolio is foreign intellectual property.
Western devs: Media is telling me to feel depressed, let's make a game about depression.
Brazilian devs: Let's make a Bargain Bin janky version of whatever popular franchise people like to play but always reminding people it's Made in Brazil.
 
Miside was alright and the game seems to have gotten the amount of praise it deserved. I just don’t like how they bent their in game lore half way through the story.

You can’t show the player the mita’s are all crash test robots to the point of adding a QA testing minigame and then have them bleed/gib when chainsawed in half and otherwise be physically identical to normal humans.

You can’t show us that the mita’s are all mass produced clones that behave the same and then have all these wacky individual mitas with distinct personalities besides the rampant one turning players into cartridges. It breaks any continuity.

Game Updates do not work like they do in the story. Instead of whatever autistic in game animated explanation the devs themselves made memes about, in reality you are basically traveling between several different copies of the game with already player customized mitas and playing through someone else’s save who was already captured by rampant mita. As out of the box they should be identical besides the “old” mita in the alpha build.
 
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Chainsaw Man is one of the best mangas ever. I know it's basically jap superhero bullshit but the characters make up for it 100%. The relationship between Makami and Denji alone is a phenomenal tale of puppy love. Though the story becomes a little like wet paper near the end of the first arc. Lots of cool characters just stop mattering to the story and basically nobody stops to remember them like a real person would. And at some point the fights just stop making sense and feel like those imaginary games you'd play as a kid where one kid says "im stronger. i win" while the other kid goes "no im stronger. i win." Still, its a fun story all the way through. Anyways my point is if you like weird animes then go read it.
Chainsaw Man 1 was great. 2 honestly has been a slog for months, very disappointment in it. Feels like it's meandering and everything feels like it takes so much longer than it should.

As for the whole Isekai sperging. I agree with whoever said that it's more of a trope than a genre as such and it's more the fantasy genre being a bit too formulaic for it's own good. Though most of this stuff comes from LN which my understanding is that it's the sloppiest of the slop. Doesn't mean I can't have fun with them mind you. Though not always Isekai, I do like the "start in a shit position and go up breaking the system", but they always become incredibly boring once the MC gets too overpowered or the "deep lore" starts going too up it's own ass.

Solo Levelling lost me when suddenly there is a dad and it's important and he's a lvl bajillion necromancer who has a giga ant and other absolute monsters as his puppets. The one about the spider girl? Similarish deal, when she can subdivide her consciousness into 4 and use multiple layers of obscene magic at the same time. Great popcorn but lose the appeal after a while.

Slime is one I do like to keep up with every few months or so simply because it shifted from being obscenely powerful to kingdom building. Also means he can have proper stakes, Slime may be OP as fuck, but most of his subjects don't have that luxury and though the whole arc to revive his secretary was a bit bullshit, it also means there is at least that vulnerability always on the table.

Rezero just doesn't fucking get anywhere. It does the usual sin of Isekai of having an exponentially increasing "deep lore" and character count. At some point you want a solution to the mystery rather than literally hours of cocktease ending in more questions. Having everyone but Subaru forget the loops means even character development is not kept between arc, so it's a literal cocktease. Killing off Rem for the crime of gaining character development showed that the author is hellbent on getting his way and will not change the story even if it does not make sense anymore.

In comparison, a Visual Novel has an ending, and it would usually let you have more fun with extended "Doomed" dead ends (sometimes combining it with heroine endings). Rezero is just not fun.
Sounds like I dodged a bullet never getting into the Rezero train. Reminds me of a funky one about a skeleton that becomes sentient beyond his necromancer and starts doing cycles. That one had a great run going, but like in what you mention in Rezero, the author seems to get cold feet and try to stretch everything into oblivion. Sounds like a LN problem in general. Anyway, seemed like it was in it's final arc, but then instead of going for the finish, it did another HARD reset and well, it's just become tedious and added a ton of "deepest lore" that just muddles shit all over the place.

Also, saw @Space Police had another one of his spergouts calling anything beyond the 70s pedophiles and porn. But I do agree on a couple of points of his. Drawings have become so soft , I really missed the more jagged lines and designs from old. One of the reasons I think Jojo hit so hard is that it was basically a manga from the 80s that finally got a proper adaptation and was stylistically at the start very inspired by stuff like Fist of the North Star. I miss that more "realistic" line work. like with City Hunter, Ninja Scroll, Legend of Galactic Heroes and so on, for the most part it only gets used for parodies now. Others have touched that a lot of shit is just LN that get adapted and since those barely have any art outside of the cover, they are easy to sloppify into the current style of very soft lines with UwU characters.

Also, going beyond the softness of the drawing, I also get the impression that there is some sort of restriction on depictions of violence in anime. I remember in early Dragon Ball Goku looking incredibly beat up at some points. One of the ones that I have in mind is kid Goku vs Picollo senior
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You see dirt on Goku, you see an active attempt to show bruises and remember other instances of swollen wounds. Today everything is very clean and pristine for the most part (some dirt and stylistic trail of blood), even when somebody is getting actively wailed on. There is a sensation of "lack of weight" to battle damage in a lot of shows. Even edgy ones with mutilation focus more on the shock factor of clean cuts fort he most part.

And last thing I wanted to mention is that I also get what he means with the waifufication of the media. It did exist in the past (you are fucking deluded if you don't think Lin Min Mei wasn't the waifu of thousands) and calling that "porn", when it's only porn in the doujin circles says more about you than anything (I imagine you would be screaming how much One Piece is porn for example). But there is a definite a move design wise to try and have as many waifus as possible in a series. In the west we have "make it gay and stick a chick in it", in grorious Nipon it's "mate it kawai and stick a waifu in it". I'm a sucker for waifus myself (@WelperHelper99 yes, Saber is indeed best girl) but I like 1 Saber, not 27 versions of Saber which we all know why they got created and it's very hard to not notice how a lot of that is present in anime. Doesn't mean I want it gone, but wouldn't mind if that fad died down for a bit. I can only file it as a consequence of how poorly your standard Japanese boy/man deals with the fairer sex, in the past, the times Space Police wants to come back to, they were more enthralled by the ideas of adventure and discovery (and I agree there is a beauty and romance in that which is exceedingly rare) yet today it's a lot more about being cool or simply not being alone, yet are terrified of being proactive. The whole "Gyaru pays attention to meek" guy trope has exploded in the last decade or so and it's happening for a reason.
 
Yeah that I feel. The sad part is when themes and things like that drag down a otherwise good story.
Speaking of which, since my last post I actually started and finished Dandadan and was thinking about this. It's pretty rapey even by anime standards, but it's obviously portrayed negatively. I think that's the biggest difference between what's acceptable and what's not, you can get away with a lot more depending on the framing. Still, Japan is crazy lmao

Konosuba is great. A classic even.
I can't overstate how good it is, and it kills me how long it goes between seasons. It's definitely the type of thing where I wouldn't read the manga because there's no way the jokes will hit as hard without the acting and stuff.

Even the spinoff about Megunin is pretty good. It's got a super chill ending theme too with some odd art that grew on me.


Indeed, it's pretty hype.
Kinda hated they're doing the whole "every girl gets wet at a glance of him" thing isekais do a lot (I know it ain't isekai but sure feels like it, and they do technically go to other worlds, but yeah). Great episode anyway.

I just am tired of Subaru doing the same thing over and over again and dying until he believes hard enough that it works.
His shitty usage of his powers is the only reason the story isn't shorter. For example, in the current season as soon as that chick was kidnapped he should've killed himself on the spot and tried again. There's no tactical advantage to letting her be taken and it'll only be more difficult from that point onward, it's plot induced stupidity.

Dragonball z is homo-erotic filth
Literally semen on your lips if you don't like this:

 
And last thing I wanted to mention is that I also get what he means with the waifufication of the media. It did exist in the past (you are fucking deluded if you don't think Lin Min Mei wasn't the waifu of thousands) and calling that "porn", when it's only porn in the doujin circles says more about you than anything (I imagine you would be screaming how much One Piece is porn for example). But there is a definite a move design wise to try and have as many waifus as possible in a series. In the west we have "make it gay and stick a chick in it", in grorious Nipon it's "mate it kawai and stick a waifu in it". I'm a sucker for waifus myself (@WelperHelper99 yes, Saber is indeed best girl) but I like 1 Saber, not 27 versions of Saber which we all know why they got created and it's very hard to not notice how a lot of that is present in anime. Doesn't mean I want it gone, but wouldn't mind if that fad died down for a bit. I can only file it as a consequence of how poorly your standard Japanese boy/man deals with the fairer sex, in the past, the times Space Police wants to come back to, they were more enthralled by the ideas of adventure and discovery (and I agree there is a beauty and romance in that which is exceedingly rare) yet today it's a lot more about being cool or simply not being alone, yet are terrified of being proactive. The whole "Gyaru pays attention to meek" guy trope has exploded in the last decade or so and it's happening for a reason.
A lot of modern writers (east and west) forgets that you can't force a waifu. An audience needs to like a character naturally through her charm. They also expect every female character to fit that role rather than letting some be a supporting role (that sometimes make the cut by being more intriguing) so you get a cast full of tryhard "fuck me" girls with their own shticks.

His shitty usage of his powers is the only reason the story isn't shorter. For example, in the current season as soon as that chick was kidnapped he should've killed himself on the spot and tried again. There's no tactical advantage to letting her be taken and it'll only be more difficult from that point onward, it's plot induced stupidity.
Tbf they had him kill himself in earlier seasons until realizing he became a nihilistic husk. Though there are cases he should've stabbed himself when the alternative is a fate worse than death.
 
In the west we have "make it gay and stick a chick in it", in grorious Nipon it's "mate it kawai and stick a waifu in it". I'm a sucker for waifus myself (@WelperHelper99 yes, Saber is indeed best girl) but I like 1 Saber, not 27 versions of Saber which we all know why they got created and it's very hard to not notice how a lot of that is present in anime.
Agreed lol. On the whole Space Police thing, the guy doesn't understand people like chicks in anime. Have waifus gotten bigger over the years? Yeah. There's also nothing wrong with it. Beauty is part of the human experience. The Japanese just found a gold mine.

Speaking of which, since my last post I actually started and finished Dandadan and was thinking about this. It's pretty rapey even by anime standards, but it's obviously portrayed negatively. I think that's the biggest difference between what's acceptable and what's not, you can get away with a lot more depending on the framing. Still, Japan is crazy lmao
Dandadan is self aware of what it's doing. That's the difference. Oh no, the bad guys did BAD things? I'm supposed to get outraged by that? Not really, because it basically always backfires on the BAD GUYS.
I can't overstate how good it is, and it kills me how long it goes between seasons. It's definitely the type of thing where I wouldn't read the manga because there's no way the jokes will hit as hard without the acting and stuff.

Even the spinoff about Megunin is pretty good. It's got a super chill ending theme too with some odd art that grew on me.
Agreed. Konosuba is nice comfy comedy. Is it outrageous? A bit sexual? Yeah it is lol. Thats the point. It's ripping on the genre itself. I will always defend parody in the name of the greatest comedian, Mel Brooks, who made it his mission to offend everyone.
Kinda hated they're doing the whole "every girl gets wet at a glance of him" thing isekais do a lot (I know it ain't isekai but sure feels like it, and they do technically go to other worlds, but yeah). Great episode anyway.
I mean it's power fantasy incarnate. You can't escape that lmao. On the plus side, they focus on the fights for the most part, so the romance elements really doesn't get in the way much.
 
I can't overstate how good it is, and it kills me how long it goes between seasons. It's definitely the type of thing where I wouldn't read the manga because there's no way the jokes will hit as hard without the acting and stuff.
I loved Konosuba when it came out, but it's been just so long since the last piece of media in the franchise aired that I'm worried I won't find it funny anymore. My tastes have changed a lot since I was a teenager.
 
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