It's gone bad for a while but yeah recently as in the berserker tournament or whatever the hell it was called(champion of champions?) was peak un-entertaining.
Season 3 came out last year with a side show coming our the year before. What do you mean bro?
I mean I didn't watch season 3 yet and read the Megumin manga and thought it wasn't funny.
He should have a painless poison on himself at all times to just abuse the reset. Anybody can figure that out but we're supposed to buy that he's too dumb to consider it.
Pretty much agree, but some of it gets weird and also bogs an anime down, we really don't need 9001 waifus in one show like "In Another World With My Smartphone".
I guess it did seem kinda self-aware, those dudes strutting into the spa almost seemed funny, yet it was also being played pretty seriously at the same time... But yeah, bad guys do bad things, that's basically fine. It could be used as an excuse in that "the author's barely disguised fetish" kinda way though.
Very comfy. The movie is still my favorite, with the tranny demon, that revelation had me laughing out loud lmao
I know, it wasn't that bad, especially after "I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in The Real World, Too" there's nothing that can make me truly cringe anymore.
If you mean the main series sure, but the Megumin spinoff was 2023, before that the movie in 2019. If you didn't watch the movie then just watch that and see what you think.
Ah I see.
Oh I don't disagree. Some anime rely on the waifus to carry the story, which basically does not work ever.
Again Dandadan is weird, but it knows it. It has thar chance like you said to slide into the authors barely disguised fetish category... but it doesn't. I've kept up with the manga; it knows where the line is. If it didn't, it would have shown it in over 170+ chapters lol. But yeah it is a watch alone show lol.
The movie was perfect. It kept the parody even with a movie grade villian, which turned out to be something straight out of South Park. Which yeah, is something that can get away with murder practically. Parody is truly the purest form of art.
I'll take your word on that one lmao.
The rape aliens shouldn't be funny, but it was just so absurd that I couldn't help but laugh. The show is more thoughtful and introspective than it seems at first, but when it wants to get wacky, it gets crackhead wacky. I guess it taking itself less seriously is what made all the rapey stuff tolerable, unlike the kind of edgy series that frequently feature that.
I guess. I read the first issue after watching the first episode. I liked the character development, I like the way things are drawn. I liked its weirdness. Even rumor of the ghost granny snatching guys' junk plot point makes sense to me. When I was younger an older boy told me there lived an old woman at the end of the block in the abandoned house who'd steal the dicks and balls of boys who wondered too close. Of course, I didn't buy it but it did make me laugh. A very specific juvenile humor I hadn't heard in years. It drew a strange smile out of me hearing it again. I know what they were going for. Still, I think it just gets too bizarre too suddenly for my tastes. Stories of aliens abducting and "probing" people are common in UFO circles and media. I know there's basically no way to handle a sexual assault scene without a voyeuristic perversion aspect going on. But here its clearly meant to be titillating. All the women and girls in this manga are clearly meant to be. The fact the girl is supposed to be a highschooler makes it all the more... unpleasant. Weird in a not-good way. Just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. I read a few more chapters anyhow and didn't find it as compelling and fascinating as the first issue. The boy and girl's character arcs aren't as dynamic. Guess this will be one of those mangas I'll never appreciate beyond the first chapter. I believe it would have been better off more slowly building up to the first alien+ghost encounter, either explaining or alluding to the mythos at play would've been nice for readers who weren't familiar with them. And changing the way the manga's peculiar perversions is handled would have done wonders for making it more palatable. But that's just my opinion. I don't sell mangas for a living so what do I know. Maybe if I had read the manga first it would have come across differently. Reading a picture book with words usually leaves a slightly different impression on my mind than watching a show.
I still like this show after the years. It's not the pinacle of anime when it comes to plot, but the characters are likable, soundtrack is good and animation is amazing. Even after 9 years it still holds up. Ending song was popular and there were many versions made with other series. I don't think that we got ending in 2015 that is more iconic than Sugar Song and Bitter Step.
It's not so much that drawings are "soft", but unskilled. It is INCREDIBLY easy to draw stereotypical anime characters. Stylization and realism both take skill; anime is a nice in-between for people who lack the skill to do either of those things. Stylization is difficult because of the amount of movement, emotion, and new physics rules you have to convey, so you have to stick to realism, but at the same time, realism is difficult because human faces have so much nuance to them. You can overcome this difficulty if you reduce the human face to a smiley face where all you have to draw are different hairstyles and different kinds of eyes, and thus you have anime. The earliest anime creators were actual artists who studied everything you'd expect a good artist to study, such as hyper-realistic drawings, figure drawing, and Western Renaissance art, and you can tell this because they understand things like anatomy, colour, and expression. Nowadays the people who make anime don't want to draw anything but anime (insert that famous Miyazaki quote about how anime is made by otaku who hate reality), so they use the anime style as a crutch and it's easy to tell their skills are just a few steps above typical Deviantart fare.
This is true. I heard that around the 2000s, there was a bunch of censorship on violence in anime due to a string of murders in Japan. Could explain why so much since then has been faggy moe and isekai with no risks or sense of adventure.
Holy TSMT! It sucks because Macross had amazing potential to be the coolest show ever, but it became one of the earliest examples of the rot that plagues anime today in that it it's unable to take the engineering and sociological concepts it wants to present to a meaningful level and it has infantilized characters. Hikaru looks 8 years old, Minmay looks 7 years old, and all the things it could explore about plane engineering, alien technology, and how culture ends war were thrown out for some gay love triangle.
Maybe, but I'm not naive or stupid enough to ignore that the creators were probably cooming over it and that it's a dogwhistle for coomers.
This is what gets me about the people who say anime is "based" or "trad" compared to current Western media. Sure, it may be seem "based" if you think all geek media should pander to white incels and never do something by women, for women, but writing-wise it suffers from all the same problems. It's formulaic, unoriginal, and most of the new big franchise entries feel like they were made by people who hate the source material -- Gundam Unicorn and the later Yamato remakes do their darndest to make the bad guys sympathetic against all in-universe logic, and G-Witch and Grendizer U felt like they were made by people who think mecha is stupid and it's their imperative to make something smart, worldly, and realistic (but ends up being a massive hack job). Grendizer U was Okouchi laughing at you for daring to think the 6th ranger trope and big climactic teamups against the villain are cool.
I have no idea why people today don't like adventure and discovery enough to make new stories about those things. Nowadays, in anime it's all about getting the waifu or becoming the best ever (and it has been that way at least since the 2000s); it's no longer about doing it to save the Earth or just for the sake of it.
I understand that perfectly well; I'm just saying it's a bad thing because it excuses mediocrity in storytelling if they can rely on waifus. Plus it's not good to watch oversexualized media.
I'm quoting this, but this is for your whole comment. You are autistic. Genuinely. You are 00000000.1% of people who care about any of that shit. You act like a old man despite being around my age, a fucking Zoomer, and then you think you have the world figured out because of your limited life experiences.
Have you ever wondered why anime has such a bad reputation? It's because most normal people do care about this and they can see it for what it is.
How so? Plenty of zoomers feel the way I do, except they usually aren't dedicated enough to find the sort of stuff I watch.
I don't think that.
They are unethical. I'd have thought your religious values would have led you to this conclusion, but alas.
I see where you are going with this, but I do think there is also a combination of "adapting to the times" as well as for scheduling reasons. Quick example
Very true and we have the same problem in the west. People had lives and then made fiction based on their lives. Now people just read fiction and want to write more fiction. The whole "Tolkien fought in a war" and JRRMartin was just a fat fuck.
Makes sense, still a huge pity. It's one of the things that got me into anime. Mind you, not violence gore either, though when I was younger seeing somebody explode in Akira was metal as fuck but the battle shounen of the time felt visceral and like something I had never seen in western animation, even the more "serious" ones like Batman or Gargoyles.
Macross... went weird places. My initial contact with it was with Robotech, I was a bit too young to get the full appeal at that point but I value it as one of the greats now and love Do You Remember Love. I also enjoy Macross Plus, but then you have stuff like Frontiers... which is mid (liked the songs though) and Delta was honestly ass and a mess. It certainly is a proto "waifu idol" sort of series and has now gone all in on it. So in a sense it kind of sticks to it's roots, but it feels like a series that cares more about the idol/music aspect that the space battles with robots part. I can't get too mad at it since it's still it's own niche and TECHNICALLY we have Gundam and other series to handle more war centric or robot centric series... but from my understanding and I imagine you can clarify more on this, the whole giant robot, be it super serious or camp/hotblooded (Gaogaigar) seems to be in dire straits in general. And well, ages in anime in general... I've just learned to apply a mental filter, in my brain I bump up any age they give me by 2-3 years "to make it make sense".
Fair, but it still makes you come as tremendously antagonistic. I like my waifus, I don't enjoy being told the only reason I enjoy anime with waifus is because I'm a porn addicted degenerate. I like moe here and there, I'm not thinking how much I want to jack off to Bocchi, I just find it cute and funny. When people start talking about sharing doujins or other similar filth, yeah, go all in and call them gooners and coomers, but for watching Dandadan or one of the 27 Fate shows that for the most part mellowed out from the edgy shit that the original VN had? You got to chill mate.
Anime is just a product to appeal to it's population, no more no less. It just so happens to appeal to a lot of the world because cute girls being nice and dudes doing stupidly badass shit is considered wholesome and metal as fuck by most young guys. I'm not kidding myself into thinking that I'm elevated because a few anime I've watched have had an impact or another on me. Yes, Legend of Galactic Heroes is an amazing narrative about war, politics and conquest. It's also incredibly dry and pretty long and is definitely not representative of the media. I also think that if you are a Zoomie zoom like Welper is suggesting, you grew up with a lot of the older more pulp stuff and well, seems like it's era is long past. You seem to be pretty keen on Classic Gundam, Yamato, probably Mazinger and Mazinkaiser, and super sentai stuff (I'm completely ignorant about this last one except probably Gatchaman), and it's an absolute pitty that the genre is in that point where everybody and their mother feels more inclined to "subvert" it or "spoof" it, I can only feel sorry for you, because in the same way that people loved something like the Phantom or Flash Gordon, those aren't coming back in their classic forms.
Well, that is just a lot of shounen being the frontrunner of what is seen. But I cried like a bitch with Your Lie in April (just a drama with musical themes), punched the sky in hype with Gurren Lagann and heavily enjoyed the slow tempo of Fune Wo Amu (it's an anime about writing a dictionary, that's it, I still found it very comfy). The medium has a tremendous amount of variety that western animation could only dream of a fraction of. Though it may mean that you have to look out of the beaten path and engage with other genres.
You ain't wrong. Though your standard shounen jump stuff is not particularly bad in that sense and stuff proper aimed at kids is incredibly quaint. And lets not kid ourselves, the worst oversexualized shit comes in with internet searches, Rescue Rangers was just a fun adventure cartoon with some chipmunks and rats, the internet certainly does not see Gadget that way anymore... And if it's adults watching tits and fights, well hey, it's their time. Bastard! is literally that and it's a fun as fuck time.
Also fair, but lets try and chill. I do think it's neat having somebody around that knows more about vintage series to ask for recommendations and suggestions. But @Space Police , you just got to mellow out more. Calling everybody a gooner and degenerate when we are just talking about the latest crap we watched is how you got to the point where a mostly sensible post gets replied with lots of animosity.
In what day and age are you taking about?
Appealing to the hypothetical majority does not change your old man status.
Your actions speak otherwise.
Liking women is not unethical. That is normal. Also you did the meme:
This has dragged across two threads. I'm fucking done with this shit bro, I really am.
If it's reached that point, just block him. No point in engaging anymore with him then.
If I could trust him not to derail normal threads, maybe. Even then, I don't block people as a rule. There is more than enough room to talk about mecha in the weebverse. Just tone down the autism.
It is incredibly crippling, but I don't really care about visual execution and more about concepts. I love Webdiver, and that show sure wasn't visually perfect, but it had cool concepts like its futuristic city, its control room, and the robot designs, so it's good. If anything modern mecha tend to be overdesigned -- sort of like a bunch of white noise on the same basic designs we've seen before.
Yeah, and that's why it's disappointing. I just want cool transforming airplanes (and the VFs are great designs, some of my favourites) doing cool stuff in deep space. People would have liked that.
Yes, but we've still got a few good kids' shows like the Tomica/Plarail shows, the Brave series manga/novels (Hakaioh, Sworgrader, and Baan Gaan), and very occasionally an anachronistic project like G-Reco or SEED Freedom that fully commits to being cool. The issue with modern sci-fi is lack of action scenes and relevant worldbuilding.
I don't care when characters look older than they are (my favourite example of this is Mueller from Vifam, who is supposed to be 23); it's when they're infantilized.
OK, but don't you find it unusual that moe anime attracts such a large and devoted grown male audience? It's like if a bunch of grown men decided to ardently fanboy Disney Channel sitcoms for girls. The only comparable thing is bronies, and everyone knows what they're really up to.
One of the main plot points in Dandadan is child castration. Fate built its audience on coomers (and still does today with Grand/Order), even if it's toned down. How am I supposed to react to this?
Correct
Not really; I've just always imagined sci-fi stories like this, and I like Transformers. Transformers is what made me think "huh, maybe this anime stuff is worth watching" to begin with.
I . . . have had mixed feelings on Gundam lately because it puts clear kids in serious adult situations and it keeps the main characters looking young throughout, and I can't help but wonder if adultifying kids like that helped pave the path for the prevalence of lolicon and sexualizing children. Plus watching 0079 and seeing the kids throwing paper airplanes and trying to have fun in the middle of a warzone recently just irritated me because these kids, albeit fictional, deserve to have fun in a safe space not set against the tragedy of war. They don't deserve to endure a do-or-die mission against scary veterans; adults should be doing that. It's weirdly sadistic in a way for kids to have to do that, come to think of it. I can still tolerate Xabungle, probably because it's so goofy and silly, as well as defanged MOTW shows, but I don't know.
Sentai is still going strong. Boonboomger, the latest show, is amazing, and plenty of the other Reiwa shows like Kiramager and Zenkaiger are also good.
I have no idea why people say this. MHA, Naruto, early Dragon Ball, and more are filled with sexual gags you'd only expect to find in a straight up ecchi anime. How is it safe?
Do you not understand how media consumption effects how you see the world? If you spend lots of time watching oversexualized anime, that will effect how you see women even at a subconscious level. There's a reason anime is associated with incels. Please try to see where I'm coming from.
I've unwatched this thread and I'm only posting in it now because I was pinged. Don't expect to hear much more from me on this topic; it's clearly a lost cause.
Kelly's Heroes exists as a movie within the world of GuP; Rabbit team is shown watching it the episode before the scene you're referencing.
Idk, could be a little fetishy, can't say for sure. Either way it's not egregious, so it didn't stop me from watching.
I was pretty surprised the villain was a serious threat, I thought the whole thing would be jokes but there was a decent fight there.
It's worth checking out one episode, it has a lot of redeeming elements, but it's an extremely unbalanced show. The fantasy world part is good, real world part is laughably bad.
The first episode's rape aliens sure, last episode's not really. Their initial entrance had me laughing but I was pretty quickly going "oh shit". It doesn't really bother me because like I mentioned before, they're villains, I can give it a pass, but it was kinda wild.
I think so too, at least to a degree.
Yeah. I was thinking to myself, "well I had no problem with her being beaten up and almost killed, so this shouldn't make me raise an eyebrow". I mean, physical violence and certainly murder are worse than rape, after all. But thinking about it, the violence was all very fantastical, whereas the rape was played fairly straightly/realistic aside from maybe the men's exaggerated entrance.
Maybe a slower buildup to the first ghost/alien could've worked but I kind of appreciated the fast pacing personally. What I would've liked is the two MCs' relationship sprouting more slowly instead, she's ready to risk her life for a guy whose name she quite literally didn't even know and is obsessed with the nerd in no time. She's clearly supposed to be hot and he's a scrawny awkward geek, so there's nothing to really attract her so quickly.
Dragon Ball is as mainstream as Pokemon, many grew up with it, there's nothing too crazy in it. You can cherrypick and purity spiral if you want, but when I was a kid it was the VIOLENCE that triggered parents, not Roshi groping chicks.
Fair.
There was, and that's what sold the movie in the end. The villian was ridiculous, stupid, but still a boss battle.
Sounds like it could be fun.
Dude all women in anime need to look like this:
