Chandler and Treadwell

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((Apologies if this topic has come up before…I’m not aware if it has. Similarly, if any mod thinks this shouldn't be in the Chris forum, feel free to move it. ))

For a while now, my friends have been suggesting to me that I watch the Grizzly Man promising that it was an entertaining watch.

If anyone is interested the documentary, you can check it out here. It’s quite interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8MjDyfcMmU

I finally watched it, and while I can say that Timothy Treadwell was an interesting character, what got me the most is how “Chris-like” he was. I didn't go into the film expecting to link it to Chris, but it some parts it was incredibly distracting. Now, I’m not suggesting that Treadwell was autistic, and Chris definitely would never rough it out in the wilderness to hang with wild bears, etc… But there are some similarities between them once one starts to watch the videos in which Timothy filmed himself.

My mind first linked “Chris” in when I heard Timothy’s baby-like high pitched voice. It’s present in a lot of his videos, but it shines any time he speaks to a grizzly bear. Like Chris he seems to try to avoid using “foul language”…until he genuinely gets angry. For somebody that fashioned himself after an eco warrior, Tim acted very naively towards the natural world, intervening when he wished, and demonizing the aspects of nature that didn’t suit him. During a drought, he goes mental calling on the powers of the almighty for rain (1:12:59), and afterwards seems convinced that he is a messiah.

He convinced himself that he was the only man that could protect grizzly bears from being murdered by poachers (1:22:14), and became increasingly paranoid of visitors to the park (1:19:58); something that reminded me of Chris and his current troll paranoia. Finally, the one video (1:23:24) that nailed it for me was the one in which he makes an ANGRY video raging at the park authorities (jerkops). The park rangers were concerned for his safety, as well as that of the bears, but all he saw was persecution.

There are more little things that are similar to some of Chris’ behaviors throughout the documentary (effeminate behaviors, tantrums, girl troubles…). Timothy seemed to be a very troubled man who couldn’t find a way to fit into normal society, until he created the Bear-Protector persona. I’m convinced that many of the reasons why my friends found Treadwell so fascinating are similar to why I found Chris so fascinating (albeit Chris offers a lot more in terms of “crazy” behaviors). Now, if I could only get them to give the CWCiki a try…
 
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Yeah. I've seen the movie and you're dead on. In the end his ego got him killed. Other people have managed to follow and build relationships with wild bears due to patience and a dedicated understanding on animal behavior. This guy thought his love/obsession of bears would somehow protect him.
 
Tubular Monkey said:
The big difference is that Chris's life involved God and the bear, and Treadwell's involved a bear and then God.

I'm probably going to Hell for laughing at this.

Well, if you're going to Hell for thinking up that line, maybe we can be roommates.
 
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Midnight Kissy Bull said:
Tubular Monkey said:
The big difference is that Chris's life involved God and the bear, and Treadwell's involved a bear and then God.

I'm probably going to Hell for laughing at this.

Well, if you're going to Hell for thinking up that line, maybe we can be roommates.

After we watched Grizzly Man for the first time, my girlfriend suggested they market the Treadwell Treadmill where you run from a bear on a stationary platform. We're all going to hell.
 
"Don't post random articles. Unless the subject matter is directly related to Chris and his history, please do not post articles with a loose affiliation. Off-Topic is where that belongs."

Sorry but I dont think this is directly related to Chris in any way.

I have seen a few minutes of the documentary and that grizzly man was just a crazy hippy trying to be alpha and ended up being bear chow. Actually I dont even feel sorry for him.
 
These two are nothing alike: Treadwell had romantic notions of nature that he acted on. Chris is essentially a five-year-old playing Mr. Rich and Successful Businessman who can't be bothered to even cobble together an office out of boxes, much less settle on what the hell the business is.
 
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I'm probably going to Hell for laughing at this.

Well, if you're going to Hell for thinking up that line, maybe we can be roommates.

My gf at the time broke up at me because she read the "coming attractions" description of what Grizzly Man was about and I started laughing when she got to the "...eaten by a bear" part and didn't stop for an annoyingly long period of time. In the theater I looked like a cartoon, biting my lip and covering my mouth the entire time, especially when he was talking about his troubles with women and sounded like a twink Mr. Garrison. Still the funniest movie in Werner Herzog's filmography.
 
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Nqh, nothing alike. But I was fascinated by Treadwell few years ago read up on him, didn't know there was a film though! Apparently the tape is kept locked away, but doesn't really add much, they say the bear is pretty much silent, and I would hope he and his gf weren't aware long enough to make much noise...still wouldn't want to hear it though!
 
Nqh, nothing alike. But I was fascinated by Treadwell few years ago read up on him, didn't know there was a film though! Apparently the tape is kept locked away, but doesn't really add much, they say the bear is pretty much silent, and I would hope he and his gf weren't aware long enough to make much noise...still wouldn't want to hear it though!
He screamed bloody murder as he was mauled, you can hear her attack the bear and chase it off, then you can hear the bear come back and drag the body away, and she screams...alone in the dark and terrified. Six minutes of audio.
 
Well....they refused to carry bear spray and camped out at a high traffic feeding point, keeping food around and interfering with these bears...really should have seen it coming.
 
Well....they refused to carry bear spray and camped out at a high traffic feeding point, keeping food around and interfering with these bears...really should have seen it coming.

At one point in the film he was near bears that were so hungry they were eating the cubs yet he never took into consideration pretty much everything you pointed out. I don't know what to think of that. Ego? Just pure crazy?
 
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Maybe just deluded and loved bears too much. I adore dogs, but some can hurt or actually kill you no matter how experienced you are.
 
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