Chandler and Treadwell

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Batman VS Tony Danza said:
At one point in the film he was near bears that were so hungry they were eating the cubs yet he never took into consideration pretty much everything you pointed out. I don't know what to think of that. Ego? Just pure crazy?
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Neither -- the one that ate him was just a big mean bear! At least according to the film.
 
Chikinballs said:
the girl he died with said he was hell bent on self destruction, so its almost a suicide in my opinion.
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A suicide? Somehow I don't think so.
I mean this guy was like a Jane Goodall to the Grizzly Bears.
He really liked them, and probably thought he was a mystical hippy shaman who was the "spiritual brother" of the Grizzly Bear race.
Oops.
 
FifthColumn said:
A suicide? Somehow I don't think so.
I mean this guy was like a Jane Goodall to the Grizzly Bears.
He really liked them, and probably thought he was a mystical hippy shaman who was the "spiritual brother" of the Grizzly Bear race.
Oops.
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I can see it both ways. However, if what ive read about him is true it tends to lead me to believe he kinda had a death wish. Maybe suicide was too strong a word. Tomato, tomato.
 
Chikinballs said:
the girl he died with said he was hell bent on self destruction, so its almost a suicide in my opinion.
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The girlfriend died with him, which to me is one of the more WTF parts of it all. I get that it's hard to see a loved one being harmed, but by fuck's sakes at one point cut your losses and run away. Perhaps it is really too much to ask of anyone. =(
 
Ron_Swanson said:
The girlfriend died with him, which to me is one of the more WTF parts of it all. I get that it's hard to see a loved one being harmed, but by fuck's sakes at one point cut your losses and run away. Perhaps it is really too much to ask of anyone. =(
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the article i was reading was saying the issue was they were treating it as a random daytime bear encounter instead of a night time predatory attack. playing dead, etc as opposed to running away or fighting back right off the rip. there is also some speculation her screams were very much the same as a wounded animal, attracting the bear back to her.

he did all kinds of dumb shit according to the article, like feeding wild animals. his actions got the bears killed. jane goodall he was not.
http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html
 
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Artard said:
Neither -- the one that ate him was just a big mean bear! At least according to the film.
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Oh, I'm not saying that the drought was the reason he got killed (since he lived well pass that point in the film) but seeing the remains of a cannibalized cub and not even considering to take at least SOME precautions is insane. Apparently in his mind his self-appointed role as guardian of the bears totally trumps a relationship between a mother bear and her cub. I imagine by that point the idea of a random bear attack just seemed impossible in his mind.

CatParty said:
Can we move this to general?
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Yeah. It probably should. The only thing that would prevent it from going into lolcow is, y'know, motherfucker got killed and ated.
 
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Batman VS Tony Danza said:
Oh, I'm not saying that the drought was the reason he got killed (since he lived well pass that point in the film) but seeing the remains of a cannibalized cub and not even considering to take at least SOME precautions is insane. Apparently in his mind his self-appointed role as guardian of the bears totally trumps a relationship between a mother bear and her cub. I imagine by that point the idea of a random bear attack just seemed impossible in his mind.
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You're right. There really were so many bizarre sequences in that film, like his utter fucking delight when a bear, literally, shit in the woods. If you haven't seen it, it's incredible. A bear takes a shit, and Treadwell runs up to it, screaming how it's warm and how it was inside the bear and it's so amazing to him. Not in a scientist going on about the cycle of life & nature, etc. etc. Treadwell was really, really excited by this pile of bear shit.
 
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Francis E. Dec Esc. said:
Watch the scene where he totally flips out because the fox runs off with his baseball cap. The amount of sheer rage he displays is just frightening. Guy wasn't right in the head at all.
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no shit. even the bears wouldnt eat it.

man, its such bullshit. ive seen sooo many bear attack videos and aftermath pics, but somehow this shit is special.

just show it. dammit.
 
You want to hear a man being eaten alive and his girlfriend screaming in terror alone in the dark for six minutes until the tape runs out, knowing that she will also eventually be eaten alive?

There's some really great beheading videos you could watch and the sound of blood gurgling in the victims' throats as they scream is really awesome!

Like what the fuck
 
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I would like to hear audio of when Chris set his house on fire and had to run and probably wake Blobera up to tell her the house was on fire and they need to waddle the fuck out.
 
It's not even video. It was recorded on a video camera, but the lens cap wasn't ever taken off (for obvious reasons, since both people who knew how to use the camera were in the process of being eaten by a damn bear), so there is only an audio track. And if Werner Herzog, who has seen and heard it all, recommends not ever listening to the tape... I don't know how you can sit there, watch the sequence where he listens to those six minutes, watch him being horribly affected by it, and then go, "Yeah, sounds like fun." I guess some people are so edgy you can shave with them, blah blah etc.
 
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Remember when he got all excited about the bear taking a shit?
 
All Chris and Treadwell have in common is that they're both delusional retards, and there's never really been a shortage of those. Chris isn't noteworthy because he's delusional. He's noteworthy because his delusions are so ridiculous and awkward.
 
NobleGreyHorse said:
It's not even video. It was recorded on a video camera, but the lens cap wasn't ever taken off (for obvious reasons, since both people who knew how to use the camera were in the process of being eaten by a damn bear), so there is only an audio track. And if Werner Herzog, who has seen and heard it all, recommends not ever listening to the tape... I don't know how you can sit there, watch the sequence where he listens to those six minutes, watch him being horribly affected by it, and then go, "Yeah, sounds like fun." I guess some people are so edgy you can shave with them, blah blah etc.
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There's nothing particularly edgy about it. The fascination with death for human beings is an old one. Some people are disturbed by it, others find no problem with viewing or talking about it.

What happened to Treadwell can cause a lot of polarizing opinions. The fact that he died in immense pain and fear is clear, and that alone is enough to frighten people.

Then again, it's a demonstration of how we interact with nature. Or, better yet, that noble ideas and attaching emotions to creatures beyond your understanding is a very unwise idea. If you ask me, the audio of him getting dragged away screaming to his death should be readily available. Why? Because it's a warning to people, to not trifle with deadly animals who should be left alone. I can't say I even have sympathy for him. He was delusional, foolish, and quite honestly a very dangerous man if left to his own devices.

Anyone experienced with camping, hiking, hunting, any kind of foresting will tell you not to feed/befriend wild animals. It's not for the animal's safety, it's for other people's. Even if you desensitized a deer to human's it could kill someone. Deer trampling people who don't give them 'treats' is actually well known enough and yes, they can easily kill you. I'm personally glad he won't be able to damage wildlife behaviour anymore. He was a child of a man who had no grasp of forestry responsibility and could have gotten innocent people killed. I'm not counting his girlfriend in that because she enabled it.
 
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