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In an ideal world, all these four families would have been purged for treason.

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Tom Segura is the most arrogant smug talentless jackass that rides on the coat tails of that closeted faggot Rogaine. Good. Absolutely fuck him. Also, homeless is a bit much, not like they won't be able to rebuild day 1 after this shit show is over with.
John Legend? Fuck him and his nasty-assed wife. 🖕

Shame about James Woods losing his place. A great American.
 
Honestly surprised the LAFD hasn't yet started bulldozing buildings to make firebreaks. I'm armchair firefighting here, but with 0% containment, water shortages, and more winds on the way, what other options are there?
The alternative is NOT intentionally destroying entire neighborhoods of Hollywood and Californian Elites and instead leaving it up to a much worse fire, but ultimately what buildings will be destroyed will be random chance.

And no one gets sued over random chance.

This is the size of the dead zone you need for a fire break-

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and with a hot enough fire(20+ years of forest debris build up) it can actually evaporate the air moisture, and wick the water out of trees on the other side, then WOOSH that starts burning.



The best case scenario is that some how (though some miracle) people who own one single family home are compensated and foreign/non-citizen/investment firms get fucked over hard. There's pretty much 0% chance of this happening but a man can dream every now and then. I at least hope that's what's taken into consideration when Trump does whatever the hell he has to do to help clean up this mess.
I could see him announcing federal financial aid for single family homes and leaving the rest to fight with the insurance companies for scraps, but I could immediately see the 9th circuit declaring that it's racist to prefer citizens to foreigners/noncitizens/firms and demanding he give them all their due (but filtered through DEI reparations of course, because white people deserve less).
 
I have a few questions:
  • How much is this affecting Troons
  • How many Troonshine Distilleries have burned down?
  • Has the Barbie dream house burnt down?
  • Is Vito been consumed by gods wrath fire?
  • Has the homeless situation in LA been improved?
These giant fuck-ass fires are just scraping the outskirts of LA. Yes, the bughive is that fucking massive.
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Tom Segura is the most arrogant smug talentless jackass that rides on the coat tails of that closeted faggot Rogaine. Good. Absolutely fuck him. Also, homeless is a bit much, not like they won't be able to rebuild day 1 after this shit show is over with.
Curious how many actual works of art like van gogh paintings and things have been burned that can't be replaced but I feel like they will have moved everything like that before the fires.
 
Power level: I worked as a big city firefighter for better part of a decade and did several seasons of forest firefighting before that.

A few things:

- LAFD is actually probably the 2nd or 3rd most highly regarded and competent fire department in the world behind New York and possibly Chicago depending who you ask.

- despite all the talk of DEI in this thread, firefighting remains dominated by white males. They have been pushing DEI (affirmative action) in the fire service since at least the early 90s. (Think American History X), but blacks in general don't want to join for whatever reason (probably swim test)

- Firefighting is all about camaraderie and accountability, if someone incompetent or out of shape somehow gets hired any self respecting captain is either going to drill them to get them up to par or get them moved off the trucks to a fire prevention role, administrative or dispatch.

- The few women that do get on the trucks generally become drivers/ pump operators and don't leave the apparatus and aren't storming into burning buildings.

- This is not a failure of the firefighters but of city planning, bureaucratic incompetence, lack of preventive measures and other reasons people have mentioned.

- The scale of this firefighting operation is enormous and possibly unprecedented for urban firefighting with 1500+ personnel operating in a fairly small area.

- The largest call I was on was 40+ apparatus and 150+ firefighters and even that was enormously hectic and required multiple command centers, multiple canteens (rehab trucks) and multiple mobile air units with compressors to refill air cylinders. I can't imagine organizing 1500+ firefighters on top of multiple air resources.

- I can guarantee most of the firefighters are legit bad asses who are great at their job and live for this shit, but there is very little to be done in such dry and windy conditions. Their priority is to save lives and then if possible save/protect property.

LAFD actually used to be known in the 80s and 90s as somewhat of a "cowboy" department, basically they would try to act like heroes and lots of firefighters got hurt/killed doing risky shit when it wasn't necessary.
As a result, North American firefighting has become much more professional and defensive, especially since 9/11. SOPs are constantly updated especially after line of duty deaths.

The next week will be very interesting with no rain in the forecast and high winds, there is potential for this to get much, much worse, especially with the threat of arson.
 
I'm like 99% sure the helicopters are in contact with relevant authorities and are easily visible to the human eye the drone operators not so much
Just like drones, news helicopters are supposed to stay out of the TFRs. They are probably zoomed way in and either further back or higher than it looks, but the completely false entitlement irks me. It's right up there with the guy on msnpc saying it was illegal for citizens to read hillary's emails, but it's ok for journalists.
Clock me if missed it here, but someone on fox11 was complaining that they evacuated, left the door unlocked for firefighters
Why would anyone do this? If a firefighter needs access inside your house, it's probably already bad. On top of that, most engines carry at least one set of any-door keys.
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Adding houses is one way to solve the problem, by increasing supply.

There is another way to solve the problem. Reduce demand.
Reduce the demand to build in fire danger zones, use fire resistant materials.
Not building dense housing in areas that are prone to wildfire could help too. But that's not going to happen. Its like building a development in a known flood zone.

But these are smart suggestions, so little to no chance these precautions will be taken. Not when there is real estate money to be made. Our next president is a real estate mogul so again, just keeping building in the same way as before. and act suprised when the area burns, again. Money and contracts are more important than peoples safety when it comes to real estate development.
 
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