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https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
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#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary


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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[Otterly]

They cannot do basic tasks. Most of the kids in my children’s school years could not, at 6-7, tie shoelaces. There were multiple kids in nappies at 5. Not special needs kids, not kids with digestive issues, kids with parents who ‘hadn’t found the time’ to train them.
Most don’t read. Very few can use an analogue clock. At nursery age plenty couldn’t use cutlery.
I’m finding graduates, even those with a masters, cannot structure an email or a report. They cannot speak respectfully to clients, they cannot defuse a situation of it’s getting a bit tense. They cannot take responsibility for anything at all. I’m talking about late twenties to almost thirty here, not 16 year old shy school leavers, people with degrees from ok universities. They cannot write emails. They have zero context.
The Eastern Europeans I get? They’re fine.
I think we’ve lost all concept of kids having a bit of hardship. Now I coddle my kids in many ways I know I do. But I also let them fail if they need to. I let them fall out of trees, I let them use tools and I let them chop wood and scrape knees and fall off bikes. I say no to snacks if it’s almost dinner time. I say ‘tough, them’s the rules’ often. When I hear ‘I can’t’ I check to make sure nobody is in danger and I say well you have a try, and then we see what went wrong and how we can maybe try again.
We have to teach them resilience. Kids have none and it’s making them unable to manage life

 

[BongoMongo]

Mush mouth is something I have noticed as well, it's very strange. I don't even understand why it's happening? Surely you're done learning how to speak correctly by the time you're 10-11ish? None of them should have been locked up inside where they can't have their odd speech corrected by peer interaction during that age.

This assumes their parents bothered to teach them and many parents do not.

We are reaping the benefits of creating an environment where having children secures additional benefit monies,and it incentivizes people who should be doing something to better their employment chances to instead opt out and starting having babies as a single parent family.

There are young people, a gigantic swathe of them who have been bought into this world by people wholly inadequate, who did not have a child because they were ready or fit to, but instead they thought the extra money would be better than looking for a job.

Our benefits system encourages this. And I know before anyone says the extra money is peanuts but the non cash stuff is a push and to som people £300 odd quid a month is a fortune.

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Mush mouth

Do you have an aexample of this ? I don't really interact with the kids that often these days.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Liz Truss is suing Kier Starmer for saying she crashed the economy.

When I saw your post before, it was just this line. I thought you might be joking.

And then you weren't joking.

Come on, lolsuit!

 

[AssignedEva]

Do you have an aexample of this ? I don't really interact with the kids that often these days.

It's often flagged as being a side effect of "TikTok voice" or "Influencer voice". Try something like the first TikTok in this:

but filtered through a British accent. It's something to do with the intonation, hard to explain but you can spot the sort of mix of mumbles and sing-songy cadence that mushes words together.

 

[QE65]

It's the 20th anniversary of the 7/7 London Bombings this year. Admittedly, I'd forgotten about this since it's often overshadowed by 9/11 and not covered as much. There is a good multipart docuseries on the BBC which covers the bombings and the efforts to catch the copycat perpetrators.

Ten years ago there was an attempted anniversary bombing, which thankfully was foiled. Given the Palestine situation and forever war in the middle east, I guess there is always another risk of a another attempt given the year. Stay safe and vigilant London Kiwis.

 

[SirCliveSinclairdabbing]

There are people I've met on a site this week (early 20s to late 30s) that thought this year was the centenary of the end of ww2.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I have no idea that even means? Like, what are you trying to say you madman?

If I were to be charitable it is ‘why don’t we just call Pigs Pork? Why do we have a seperate name for them? It’s not like they produce different things’

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

there is always another risk of a another attempt given the year

Ever since the Manchester Arena Bombings the security services seem to have really got their shit together (or there aren't as many plots but I doubt that). Intelligence services are one of those 'no news is good news' sort of things.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

If I wear to be charitable it is ‘why don’t we just call Pigs Pork? We do we have a seperate name for them? It’s not like they produce different things’

if they were to say that then you comeback with the following;

Pig is the Saxon word and pork is the Latin word, the Normans spoke French which is a Latin language and since most of the Normans that came over with William were of the upper class the only time they would see a pig would be when they were eating one so they would say Pork instead of pig and over time Norman French and Saxon merged and as a result we now have pig and pork to refer to the same thing.

Watch their heads explode the moment you bring up French being a Latin language.

 

[Ken Barlow]

I think this is it. They don’t read books. I was treated to a conversation at work where two girls were actually proud of this. One had ‘never read a book.’ She had a 2:1 in something biology related from an ok university and she was utterly ignorant of biology, so her grasp of the rest of the world must have been even worse. Sad really

The only book in my house is the Argos catalogue; and, even then, I just point at the pictures, grunt and things arrive like magic.

 

[Ken Barlow]

Certain members of this group do have a recreational interest in pigs.

Mr Pulford confirmed:

 

[MrJokerRager]

This reminds me of the German situation with the illegal Afghans.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Link

Man whose daughter committed suicide after seeing unspecified 'harmful content' on the internet appeals to daddy government to be a parent for him.

"This preventable harm would be happening on your watch," he writes to Sir Keir.

No, it happened on YOUR watch.

Naturally this will likely be used as an excuse to pass some draconian internet regulation laws, so look forward to that.

 

[A-Logato]

Man who's daughter committed suicide after seeing unspecified 'harmful content' on the internet appeals to daddy government to be a parent for him.

Backwards on online safety? Were literally at the point where you can get arrested for miss gendering on Twitter.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Backwards online safety? Were literally at the point where you can get arrested for miss gendering on Twitter.

Whenever I see people like this crop up in the news (the "Government, please raise my children for me" types) I always assume they've been paid to say this shit in order to give the government an excuse to pass more and more laws. I will continue to believe this until concrete evidence to the contrary is presented to me.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Whenever I see people like this crop up in the news (the "Government, please raise my children for me" types) I always assume they're plants who have been paid to say this shit in order to give the government an excuse to pass more and more laws. I will continue to believe this until concrete evidence to the contrary is presented to me.

Well he is running a charity that is grifting off his daughter's death https://mollyrosefoundation.org/ so I assume he must be making a pretty penny and getting plenty of government money

 

[isalaide]

Oh the Russell man is just trying to place the blame for his daughter's completely avoidable suicide on someone other than himself and his completely inappropriately negligent parenting. He allowed the child to spend all her time with a device that he knew was being used by her peer group to send her torrents of abuse. He knew she was self harming and allowed her to browse shitloads of self harming content. The idea of taking the fucking phone off her and moving her school was apparently incomprehensible; also using his middle class wealth and access to get the child some private psychiatric assistance. Now his little girl is dead and it's the fault of 'social media'. No. It's your fault. You actively placed her in harm's way and did not remove her even once it was clear she could not cope with the psychological impact of what she was observing.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Well he is running a charity that is grifting off his daughter's death https://mollyrosefoundation.org/ so I assume he must be making a pretty penny and getting plenty of government money

Oh the Russell man is just trying to place the blame for his daughter's completely avoidable suicide on someone other than himself and his completely inappropriately negligent parenting. He allowed the child to spend all her time with a device that he knew was being used by her peer group to send her torrents of abuse. He knew she was self harming and allowed her to browse shitloads of self harming content. The idea of taking the fucking phone off her and moving her school was apparently incomprehensible; also using his middle class wealth and access to get the child some private psychiatric assistance. Now his little girl is dead and it's the fault of 'social media'.

I didn't know any of this prior to my initial post and I already got the vibe that the guy's a scumfuck. This all just confirms it beyond any doubt.

 

[Monopolywheel]

Man whose daughter committed suicide after seeing unspecified 'harmful content' on the internet appeals to daddy government to be a parent for him.

I've looked at some other sources and if I have to guess it seems the 'harmful content' was essential videos or images that glorified or romanticised self harm

The coroner at her inquest ruled the content she had viewed "romanticised" self-harm, "normalised" her depression, and that some content "discouraged" the teenager from seeking "help" - ultimately contributing to her death.

There's a lot of problems with the inquest into her death and it reeks of government meddling, I'll just leave a quote from the coroner

In a landmark ruling at an inquest in September, a coroner ruled she died not from suicide, but from "an act of self-harm while suffering from depression and the negative effects of online content".

"No stalker child she did not die from suicide she actually died because of online content which forced her against her own will to self harm"