Live updates: Brush fire burns in Pacific Palisades as Santa Ana winds blast Southern California - Live video at link

I wonder how many vehicles 17 Million dollars can pay for...
About 30. Vehicles are normally funded via bond issuance. At least the main firefighting apparatus.

losing fire apparatus to fast moving wildfires is not unheard of. It’s always a fear for those in charge on the ground. Hopefully the crews of these vehicles were evacuated and are safe. That’s the real nightmare. Losing the off road equipment that you take into the woods is not uncommon. Losing Class A pumpers that never leave the pavement only happens in true disasters.
 
I'm honestly in the camp that democracy has pretty much failed California.

I sympathize with the few Californians who had lost their livelihoods and did everything that they can to assist their communities, and voted for more water to be pumped and better environmental conservation to prevent wildfires. However, people need to vote in governments who are competent, and not just because they have a (D) at the end of their name. Majority of Californians have kept Gavin Newsom even after he mocked the state during quarantine by having a party at the French Laundry. I found it much difficulty sympathizing with them because I'm beholden by the idea "you deserve what you voted for." It's also to note that California is ruled by a "tyranny of the majority," a big flaw of democracy, where majority of the residents of Sacramento, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego are hive-minded, yet have much more power in the government than Californian folks in the state's Central Valley.

It is obvious that California has many issues that cannot be solved by just voting them out because corruption heavily influences the voting process, such as the use of mail-in voting. The majority of California elected a government that did nothing but enlarged homeless camps, practically legalized crime (to the point San Francisco's most famous shopping mall is shutting down due to endless robberies), destroyed the sanitary systems, increased cost of living, decreased quality of life, and destroyed their demographics (only point where Republicans are to blame because Reagan). And in the end, majority of Californians have amassed a large amount of cognitive dissonance that they should just keep voting D just to keep California as a beacon of tolerance and will ignore all the problems you mention to them.

Now that the problems are pointed out, what are the solutions? The most obvious one, democracy, just doesn't work. Even though it makes me a hypocrite and dumb, I honestly think the federal government implementing "authoritarian" measures is the only way to fix the state. Turn California into a territory, arrest all the corrupt bureaucrats, shut down the state's democratic process and clean it up, declare martial law based on the multiple emergencies that is wildfires, homelessness, crime, and mass migration, appoint mayors and governors, and/or have the feds rebuild California from the ground up by building up an effective irrigation system and cutting down dead tress. The most worst they can do is become the same thing as the Californian state government. Shit's unconstitutional as fuck, and you can already see the cracks of the dangers of feds lusting for more power, but what else is there to do?

To top it off, with direct authoritarianism from the federal government, you don't have to blame Californians if California goes to shit again.
I kind of agree. The state gov. in ca needs to be razed and built up from the ashes. Implement the electoral system at the state level. It would prevent the "tyranny of the majority".
 
I cannot listen to the pressers where bureaucrats in suits blather words with no meaning.

Is anyone else noticing that there seems to be less actual pictures and video of the current fires as opposed to the other day when there were lots of things, but now there are channels showing fire but if you watch you realize it's old footage on a loop.

If ya find anything, archive it. I sense coverup.

Also can we get a wellness check on that fire chief that told the truth to reporters? I worry for her safety.
 
Seems like only yesterday....

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Wait, that was yesterday.
 
The last few days have been insane. They are only starting to get a handle on some of them and the biggest ones are still out of control. I heard some official saying that it could be a month before the biggest ones are fully out.

Now i understand what officials meant on the afternoon of the 2nd day (wed) when they said "the worst is yet to come" while we all watched video of huge multi million dollar houses on the hill go up and whole communities burn the night before!

Case and point:


When i posted that, only likely the bushy parts on the left bottom of the pic were surely burned.. Don't know if anyone posted the updated pics yet (likely did) but the whole mid area and beyond is gone now too. (the dense part that looks like tiles) All million+ homes in one of the richest most exclusive places in the world.

Feel bad for quite a number of the affected.. This is quite a disaster. One enabled by decades of mismanagement, deranged eco extremists and virtue signaling. And of course mother nature, who decided that fire-chan needed to try and make friends again. Like last time and all the others. It's our (humanities) failure to be ready.

On a depressing but not surprising note. One of the narratives seems likely to be (and already is partly) "how could man made climate change do this?!"
 
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Never mind, Forward progress has been stopped and OC Club fire will soon be snuffed.

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Orange County chads stay fucking winning!

See what happens when you don't cut funding to important shit and actually practice fire prevention???

(Also OC is still majority white/Asian lol)
 
Does Cali not allow back up residential generators?
No. Literally no. Carbon footprint concerns.

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You might have to live in 17th century conditions, but the EARTH MOTHER WILL BE HAPPY. (Note that Bass and Newsom's generators will be exempt.)

In the middle of the firestorm? The fucking nigger fired the fire chief in the middle of the biggest natural disaster in the state's history? For embarrassing her on TV??

Hahhahahaha holy fuck, Cali Kiwis get the fuck out of the state immediately, this is Chernobyl "you did NOT see graphite you DID NOT" level of communism
 
The last few days have been insane. They are only starting to get a handle on some of them and the biggest ones are still out of control. I heard some official saying that i could be a month before the biggest ones are fully out.
About an hour ago in another presser the fire chief there said they are expecting more Santa Ana winds next Tuesday as strong or stronger than what started all this earlier in the week.
 
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